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[ElBoxyBrown]

why?

He's doing DKIII and an Image book.

 

[Poodlestrike]

He's doing DKIII and an Image book.

Azrael, not Azzarello.

 

[KonradLaw]

He's doing DKIII and an Image book.

Dude. Azrael., as in character from Batman comics. Not Brian Azzarello, the writer

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Azrael, not Azzarello.

Dude. Azrael., as in character from Batman comics. Not Brian Azzarello, the writer

*Looks back at the post*

So how bout that Superwoman? lol

 

[Poodlestrike]

*Looks back at the post*

So how bout that Superwoman? lol

I am down for some Lois Lane adventures, even if the premise is pretty much exactly the current Thor run.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I am down for some Lois Lane adventures, even if the premise is pretty much exactly the current Thor run.

DC's plan for Superman is weird. Like, they want to bring back classic supes but they don't want to get rid of supes legacy in the New 52 so there just gonna transfer his powers over to Lois and have classic Supes and Lois hanging around as the new status quo.

 

[jph139]

There's so many goddamn Superpeople that'll be running around.

(Possibly) New 52 Superman
Pre-New 52 Superman
New Super-Man
Superwoman
Superboy
Supergirl
Cyborg Superman
Lex Luthor Dressed As Superman
Some sort of mysterious Clark Kent?

Is Connor Kent still running around? I don't remember seeing him in any of the Rebirth promo stuff.

 

[Poodlestrike]

DC's plan for Superman is weird. Like, they want to bring back classic supes but they don't want to get rid of supes legacy in the New 52 so there just gonna transfer his powers over to Lois and have classic Supes and Lois hanging around as the new status quo.

And then there's Chinese Superman. And Luthor, I guess.

It's a little bit Reign of the Supermen up in here.

 

[Mael]

What's the general opinion on N52 Supes?
I already have Unchained, is it worth it to start at vol 1 N52 Superman? Action comics Superman? birthright (if that is even related to n52)?

 

[Poodlestrike]

What's the general opinion on N52 Supes?
I already have Unchained, is it worth it to start at vol 1 N52 Superman? Action comics Superman? birthright (if that is even related to n52)?

I like him. People were pretty down on him for a while, though. He was cocky as hell in Action (and JL volume 1), and his relationship with Lois was... uh, not particularly functional. But I always liked him alright. Though it's looking increasingly likely he's about to bite it, they're giving him a decent sendoff. Super League's been p. good.

 

[jph139]

I've definitely been interested in Morrison's Action Comics run. I'm not really hot on Morrison (even All-Star Superman left me lukewarm), but young, cocky, Golden Age inspired, crime-busting socialist Superman sounds like a good time to me.

I wish they kept his blue jeans and t-shirt look, though. Such a cool, modern Americana look.

 

[flaxknuckles]

What's the general opinion on N52 Supes?
I already have Unchained, is it worth it to start at vol 1 N52 Superman? Action comics Superman? birthright (if that is even related to n52)?

No don't read Vol1 Supes. Just read Geoff's run, it's the only good thing about it.

Grant Morrison's Action Comics is pretty great at the start and then gets extremely weird and offputting once Supes gets his regular costume.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Real talk, I'd love to get an ongoing with Truth-tier Superman going around doing lower level stuff. Like the moment with the anchor chain in Action Comics, or participating in Mythbrawl. That shit was fun.

 

[flaxknuckles]

Real talk, I'd love to get an ongoing with Truth-tier Superman going around doing lower level stuff. Like the moment with the anchor chain in Action Comics, or participating in Mythbrawl. That shit was fun.

I really liked Truth Superman when he wasn't moaning about being weaker. That really should have lasted alot longer. Hell, since they are replacing Nu52 Supes with Rebirth they could have done it then and had a longer run. Dang, I honestly think I like a Superman who can't fly and wears regular clothes better than the regular one.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

so Post-Crisis Superman, the one that was killed by Doomsday, turned to electric Superman, the one I grew up with will basically fill the role of pre-Crisis Superman from Infinite Crisis?

 

[Poodlestrike]

so Post-Crisis Superman, the one that was killed by Doomsday, turned to electric Superman, the one I grew up with will basically fill the role of pre-Crisis Superman from Infinite Crisis?

Naw. Post-Crisis Superman is already hanging out in the New 52. He'll just step into the public eye.

 

[MartyStu]

I really liked Truth Superman when he wasn't moaning about being weaker. That really should have lasted alot longer. Hell, since they are replacing Nu52 Supes with Rebirth they could have done it then and had a longer run. Dang, I honestly think I like a Superman who can't fly and wears regular clothes better than the regular one.

Same.

There is something about Clark still being Superman despite irrevocably losing his powers that would make him even more Superman.

My continued hope is that this 'reign of the supermen' type thing DC is doing eventually leads to a de-powered Clark running around.

 

[Sou Da]

Wonder-Woman Earth One was great. Not a single hand raised in violence.

 

[Mael]

I like him. People were pretty down on him for a while, though. He was cocky as hell in Action (and JL volume 1), and his relationship with Lois was... uh, not particularly functional. But I always liked him alright. Though it's looking increasingly likely he's about to bite it, they're giving him a decent sendoff. Super League's been p. good.

I really liked that version of Superman, Hal Jordan in JL Vol 1 was more of a bother than anything (in the comic and in War then again one is the adaptation of the other I guess).
Hal looks like a massive ass between JL 1 and GL vol 1, more heroic in JL than in GL though.
In GL he only wants his ring back and would pretty much do next to anything for it.

No don't read Vol1 Supes. Just read Geoff's run, it's the only good thing about it.

Grant Morrison's Action Comics is pretty great at the start and then gets extremely weird and offputting once Supes gets his regular costume.

You mean

and not this one?

and this one is ok?

 

[Schweinehund]

I can't remember if I should recommend action comics or not. It's like one of the most morrison-y books out there. I remember volume one being good, then it just got weird with alternate universe supermans and non linear storytelling.

 

[OmegaX]

and this one is ok?

Action Comics by Grant Morrison (1-3) is awesome. It can be confusing at times, and may require a few rereads but that's true for anything written by Morrison. If you like it, consider buying All-Star Superman by the same author.
You can skip vol 4 because it's mostly filler stories. Vol 5 starts Greg Pak's run which seems to be good but Vol 6 is made redundant because the Superman Doomed HC collects almost all of it plus some other Super titles.

 

[Mael]

ok so my little shopping list will have Supes Action#1 and Shazam for sure.

I guess the good way to read them if I were up to date would be the monthlies or something that you get sent through the mail or something.
You know the publications that cost less than 5 bucks apiece or something?

 

[Schweinehund]

I don't really do floppies but there's a few online stores out there that ship weekly to monthly. DCBS is a branch of instocktrades that does monthly pulls.

Definitely going to pick up the 80 page rebirth in store though.

 

[Tyrant Rave]

ok so my little shopping list will have Supes Action#1 and Shazam for sure.

I guess the good way to read them if I were up to date would be the monthlies or something that you get sent through the mail or something.
You know the publications that cost less than 5 bucks apiece or something?

They're pretty cheap individually but they add up quick when you start reading a bunch of books. The trades that collect multiple issues tend to be cheaper than actually buying every issue too.

 

[Schweinehund]

Rich cooking up that rumor mill again.

I understand that the DC Rebirth titles have a two year story arc that all books will be a part of, to varying degrees.

Masterminded by DC CCO Geoff Johns, it will begin with DC Universe: Rebirth #1 in May and conclude in the summer of 2018.

Geoff Johns has been having meetings with all the DC Rebirth writers to better align their work with this plan, and to weave plotlines in and out of all the titles.

There have also been examples when DC co-Publisher has laid out plans with a writer, only for Geoff Johns to scotch them all and tell the writer to ignore everything DiDio just said.

Don't really put faith into anything Rich says but I'd be down for a great dc universe story. I came to the game later but I loved infinite crisis's storyline, starting with Identity Crisis and ending with 52. It's really a great long running saga of multiple storylines. I don't know who coordinated all of that but I'd love it again.

 

[rokero]

With real Azrael appearing in recent Batman & Robin Eternal I really hope DC will consider giving him his own series somewhere down the line.

wait Jean Paul Valley is back ? what issues is he in ?

 

[KonradLaw]

wait Jean Paul Valley is back ? what issues is he in ?

9 and 10

 

[Poodlestrike]

Rich cooking up that rumor mill again.





Don't really put faith into anything Rich says but I'd be down for a great dc universe story. I came to the game later but I loved infinite crisis's storyline, starting with Identity Crisis and ending with 52. It's really a great long running saga of multiple storylines. I don't know who coordinated all of that but I'd love it again.

I'm gonna have to say "no" to trusting Rich's gardener on this one.

9 and 10

Also, 24, 25, 26.

 

[rokero]

Azrael is one of my favorite characters I had the Knightfall novel by O'neil I used to read it all the time I also have most of the Azrael Agent of the Bat run, once they changed Jean Paul Valley I stopped following the character so this is great news for me

 

[MHWilliams]

wait Jean Paul Valley is back ? what issues is he in ?

Valley's Azrael was in Eternal 9, 10, and 15.

Valley is technology-based, while Michael Lane's Azrael is mystical, so it'll be interesting to see them go head to head.

 

[KonradLaw]

Nice to know there's stil more Azrael in future issues.
What I liked about 52's Jean Paul is properly badass, handling two Batman's protegees and Bane at the same time. Like it should be, since the guy is above what's humanly possible. And they even gave him proper oldschool costume, that's similiar to the original, but with the 90s tackiness removed.

 

[Schweinehund]

Some news DCBros

First is a closer look at The Super-man.

I'm hoping this will be a dark horse title, I've always liked the idea of a super hero set in another country so culturally different than us, written by an author familiar with the culture. Plus I like the design and art style.

Didio refutes BC's latest rumor. He does say every character, I'm sure they've got some events planned but maybe not line wide all the time.


July Solicitations

More on Batman & Joker with Rebirth.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Some news DCBros

First is a closer look at The Super-man.

I'm hoping this will be a dark horse title, I've always liked the idea of a super hero set in another country so culturally different than us, written by an author familiar with the culture. Plus I like the design and art style.

Didio refutes BC's latest rumor. He does say every character, I'm sure they've got some events planned but maybe not line wide all the time.


July Solicitations

More on Batman & Joker with Rebirth.

Added July solicits to OP. Cool looking stuff.

Also, I knew Rich was full of it again.

ALSO also, I love New Super-Man's cover.

 

[tim1138]

New Super-Man's costume is awesome

 

[Poodlestrike]

PLUS ULTRA, Tom King's Batman:

And for King's new twice-monthly Batman series (with artist David Finch), the catalog reveals that a "mysterious hero naming himself Gotham arrives" in Gotham City, claiming to be the city's "newest protector." The book will explore whether Batman embraces the new young hero or not.

Batman group editor Mark Doyle says of the new "Gotham" hero: "He's young and idealistic…like someone who joins the Peace Corps… but goes into the heart of some Third World war zone thinking he knows how to fix everything. One problem leads to another."

That poor kid is gonna get rekt.

And Batman Beyond sounds like...

And in the futuristic Batman Beyond, the once-believed-dead Bruce Wayne (as seen in Future's End) could be returning just as Terry McGinnis takes back his mantle. (Despite previously announcing McGinnis would return, the new catalog leaves who will be under the mask an open question, and even placing the odds of Tim Drake returning as better than McGinnis returning).

"The AARP poster boy must be close to a century old by Batman Beyond's time. But if Gotham's in need of a pro­tector, Bruce Wayne will answer the call once more-just keep the defib machine and a double does of Centrum Silver on standby!" reads the DC description, however they also allude to Joker returning, asking "wouldn't it be the ultimate prank to pull if the Clown Prince of Crime not only survived, but adopted the guise of his most hated enemy?"

Uh, kind of a mess.

 

[MartyStu]

Wait, Barry has a brand new protege? And DC did not even bother making him Black Wally...

..the fuck?

Either this kid is dead, evil or DC done goofed yet again.

 

[Future Foundation]

Added July solicits to OP. Cool looking stuff.

Also, I knew Rich was full of it again.

ALSO also, I love New Super-Man's cover.

That cover and that suit are both wonderful.

 

[Schweinehund]

The lack of JLA solicitations is making me antsy. Wonder what the line up is. Could see it being a lot of b-stringers like the New 52 JLA was, I enjoyed that for the short 15 issues it ran for. Wonder what Hawkman is up to.

GA, Hawkman, Black Canary, J'onn, Mera, Shazam, Zatanna, Guy Gardener & PC Wally. Lets do dis.

 

[jackdoe]

So, new 52 superman is officially still alive (barring the dramatic cover), but depowered?

Or is it some shapeshifter nonsense?

 

[MartyStu]

So, new 52 superman is officially still alive (barring the dramatic cover), but depowered?



Or is it some shapeshifter nonsense?

Alive and de-powered seems like.

Pretty much exactly what I wanted. He just needs to be a supporting character in Superwoman and it will be perfect.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

So, new 52 superman is officially still alive (barring the dramatic cover), but depowered?



Or is it some shapeshifter nonsense?

So weiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd.

How long can DC make this last?

 

[Poodlestrike]

So, new 52 superman is officially still alive (barring the dramatic cover), but depowered?



Or is it some shapeshifter nonsense?

Yup, that's what I got from it.

Excellent news is excellent.

Alive and de-powered seems like.

Pretty much exactly what I wanted. He just needs to be a supporting character in Superwoman and it will be perfect.

OH MY GOD YES

 

[Schweinehund]

They'll probably kill off Post Crisis Superman in a crisis story sometime down the line and new 52 Superman will take the mantle. It's really the only reason to keep him around.

I really liked new 52 Superman, I thought post crisis superman got a satisfying ending in convergence.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

Superman's costume looks even weirder now that they decided to give him the classic costume but remove the red tights.

Hint: when you put him in the costume he wore for like 70 years and then remove the trunks it makes it look even more glaring

 

[MartyStu]

They'll probably kill off Post Crisis Superman in a crisis story sometime down the line and new 52 Superman will take the mantle. It's really the only reason to keep him around.

Almost certainly.

There is a lot that can be done with the character dynamics now. This is the most fertile ground that Superman comics have had in terms of non-tights drama in quite some time.

I just hope that DC keeps them both around for a few years as opposed to when the next JL/Superman movie is released.

 

[Effect]

SUPERMAN #2
Written by PETER J. TOMASI and PATRICK GLEASON
Art and cover by PATRICK GLEASON and MICK GRAY
Variant cover by KENNETH ROCAFORT
Retailers: Each issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.
“THE SON OF SUPERMAN” Chapter Two: In #2, Superboy takes flight as he accompanies his father, the Man of Steel, on their first mission together to confront a creature more dangerous than anyone realizes. Will the duo triumph...or will they die when they face the lethal force of the Eradicator?
On sale JULY 6 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T

Interesting that Clark and Lois's son is the new Superboy. Wonder what happens to Conner. He's not in the line up for the Teen Titans book it seems going by the July cover.

 

[LordRaptor]

That new superman costume just reminds me of Red Robin

 

[Poodlestrike]

That new superman costume just reminds me of Red Robin

Except good.

 

[Kalentan]

Is there a better DC wiki site than just... dc.wiki?

Cause I find it kind of annoying they have both pre-52 Superman and New 52 Superman... On the same page. One would think you would have 2 separate pages, more so since both are alive.

 

[Sandfox]

Am I the only one who thinks the main Batman book has the weakest premise out of the bat books? King is probably the best writer though so it will probably balance out though.

I was expecting that development for Superman based on the June solics and it should be interesting.