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DC's Legends Of Tomorrow |OT| Macho Man Vandal Savage - Thursdays 8/7c
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God these haven't been remotely funny since last year. The dude just throws everything possible at the wall and with way too many images (25 is the sweet spot) any quality joke is drowned out.
God these haven't been remotely funny since last year. The dude just throws everything possible at the wall and with way too many images (25 is the sweet spot) any quality joke is drowned out.
The last one got me.
These are at least a bit funny.
Jazzy Network
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Second episode totally 100 times better than the first. Redeemed!
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
These were average but we do need a Ray fuckup count in this thread
PHOENIXZERO
Member
How is it that Arrow females are so shit on Arrow but outside of Arrow they're awesome?
Sara is awesome in this, one of the best characters on the team. What little they had of Laurel was better than she's been on Arrow in years. Felicity in season 1 Flash was fun (though not in the season 2 crossover she was terrible there).
Because on Arrow they're always a source of shitty drama.
You do realize that this is a new guy, right? The old one had to quit due to stuff going on in his life.God these haven't been remotely funny since last year. The dude just throws everything possible at the wall and with way too many images (25 is the sweet spot) any quality joke is drowned out.
rockman zx
Member
Much better episode this week, the Prision Break guys are great, in the other hand the hawk couple... Pure snorefest.
The Outsider
Member
It's that time again!
RANKING THE LEGENDS: EPISODE 1x02 EDITION
S Tier
-Captain Cold
-Heatwave
-White Canary
A Tier
-Atom
-Old Firestorm
B Tier
-Rip Hunter
-Young Firestorm
C Tier
-Hawkgirl
F
Tier
-Hawkman
RANKING THE LEGENDS: EPISODE 1x02 EDITION
S Tier
-Captain Cold
-Heatwave
-White Canary
A Tier
-Atom
-Old Firestorm
B Tier
-Rip Hunter
-Young Firestorm
C Tier
-Hawkgirl
F
UCKING DEAD HAHAHAHA
-Hawkman
Jazzy Network
Member
Sara so good. Dying was the best thing to ever happen to her.
I'd put down Atom and Rip Hunter a tier each. Atom keeps fucking up, Rip doesn't really do anything.
Agreed. Otherwise, that list is pretty much perfect.
J
JeremyEtcetera
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Because on Arrow they're always a source of shitty drama.
This is true. Arrow doesn't know when to have fun as a series, unlike Flash and Legends of Tomorrow. I honestly can't name the last Arrow episode that was mainly just the team having fun or poking fun at something, yet these past two episodes of Legends and multiple episodes of Flash have had some good amounts of humor injected into them to balance the drama out.
The oddest thing is that out of all of these characters in comics, Oliver should be cracking jokes the most. Yet his TV counterpart is nothing but serious drama and action for 40 minutes, with a quip or two during 1 scene. It's a breath of fresh air whenever he has a crossover with Flash because he gets to relax more and actually get some good chemistry with Barry and the rest of their teams. After looking at some of his Q&A and other videos he posts online, it's not like Stephen Amell(Arrow) can't tell a joke, because he clearly can. This is more of a case of the writers not wanting Arrow to be funny. That is something I just don't get.
Another thing that makes it worse for the secondary characters is that whenever we got an episode focused on another character in Arrow, it's usually going to be a Diggle backstory/story. At least with Legends characters get equal screen time so far and equal story beats. I guess Black Canary and Speedy have no more stories to tell?
How is it that Arrow females are so shit on Arrow but outside of Arrow they're awesome?
Sara is awesome in this, one of the best characters on the team. What little they had of Laurel was better than she's been on Arrow in years. Felicity in season 1 Flash was fun (though not in the season 2 crossover she was terrible there).
Sara had that one episode she tried to kill herself but otherwise she's fine. Nyssa is always great. Moira is fun for the whole family.
This is true. Arrow doesn't know when to have fun as a series, unlike Flash and Legends of Tomorrow. I honestly can't name the last Arrow episode that was mainly just the team having fun or poking fun at something, yet these past two episodes of Legends and multiple episodes of Flash have had some good amounts of humor injected into them to balance the drama out.
The oddest thing is that out of all of these characters in comics, Oliver should be cracking jokes the most. Yet his TV counterpart is nothing but serious drama and action for 40 minutes, with a quip or two during 1 scene. It's a breath of fresh air whenever he has a crossover with Flash because he gets to relax more and actually get some good chemistry with Barry and the rest of their teams. After looking at some of his Q&A and other videos he posts online, it's not like Stephen Amell(Arrow) can't tell a joke, because he clearly can. This is more of a case of the writers not wanting Arrow to be funny. That is something I just don't get.
Another thing that makes it worse for the secondary characters is that whenever we got an episode focused on another character in Arrow, it's usually going to be a Diggle backstory/story. At least with Legends characters get equal screen time so far and equal story beats. I guess Black Canary and Speedy have no more stories to tell?
Arrow is and always will be the darker show. It's the Batman inspired one. They've lightened things up a bit but it's never going to be The Flash and they don't want it to be.
And as far as backstory episodes go, we've seen Black Canary and Speedy's origins on the show. We've seen all of their past we need to.
Okay alright. Second episode was great, tons more fun than the setupalooza last week. Down to business with cool fight scenes and some good character moments. Was wondering when Hawkdude was gonna bite it, no wonder they let him get away with that really wooden acting. Though I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back in the future (no pun intended).
Most of the cast is owning it, I hope this episode wasn't a fluke.
Most of the cast is owning it, I hope this episode wasn't a fluke.
Another thing that makes it worse for the secondary characters is that whenever we got an episode focused on another character in Arrow, it's usually going to be a Diggle backstory/story. At least with Legends characters get equal screen time so far and equal story beats. I guess Black Canary and Speedy have no more stories to tell?
The problem is, we spent two years of the show complaining when they had a story to tell. The writers probably don't like to hear that.
J
JeremyEtcetera
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Sara had that one episode she tried to kill herself but otherwise she's fine. Nyssa is always great. Moira is fun for the whole family.
Arrow is and always will be the darker show. It's the Batman inspired one. They've lightened things up a bit but it's never going to be The Flash and they don't want it to be.
And as far as backstory episodes go, we've seen Black Canary and Speedy's origins on the show. We've seen all of their past we need to.
The problem is, we spent two years of the show complaining when they had a story to tell. The writers probably don't like to hear that.
Regaring the Batman inspiration, to me that's the real problem. Even Batman had lighthearted moments(unless you are referencing the Nolan ones).
I'm not saying we need to see more of Speedy and Canary's origins or relationships, I'm saying we should see more of them branching off into their own side-stories, possibly involving another villain while Oliver is busy battling Damien Dahrk. Let them be more like the Nightwing and Batwoman to his Batman instead of being 2 robins. However they aren't doing this and everyone just relies on him to fix every problem(The latest episode is a good example of this).
Miles Quaritch
Member
They had a chance to get rid of both weak links and yet decided to keep one.
I just don't understand it.
I just don't understand it.
This is true. Arrow doesn't know when to have fun as a series, unlike Flash and Legends of Tomorrow. I honestly can't name the last Arrow episode that was mainly just the team having fun or poking fun at something, yet these past two episodes of Legends and multiple episodes of Flash have had some good amounts of humor injected into them to balance the drama out.
The oddest thing is that out of all of these characters in comics, Oliver should be cracking jokes the most. Yet his TV counterpart is nothing but serious drama and action for 40 minutes, with a quip or two during 1 scene. It's a breath of fresh air whenever he has a crossover with Flash because he gets to relax more and actually get some good chemistry with Barry and the rest of their teams. After looking at some of his Q&A and other videos he posts online, it's not like Stephen Amell(Arrow) can't tell a joke, because he clearly can. This is more of a case of the writers not wanting Arrow to be funny. That is something I just don't get.
Another thing that makes it worse for the secondary characters is that whenever we got an episode focused on another character in Arrow, it's usually going to be a Diggle backstory/story. At least with Legends characters get equal screen time so far and equal story beats. I guess Black Canary and Speedy have no more stories to tell?
I REALLY hope that
when we see future Oliver, he will be much closer to the Green Arrow we love.
I really would not be so annoyed with Arrow if the Oliver's march toward calming the fuck down was much faster.
Regaring the Batman inspiration, to me that's the real problem. Even Batman had lighthearted moments(unless you are referencing the Nolan ones).
I'm not saying we need to see more of Speedy and Canary's origins or relationships, I'm saying we should see more of them branching off into their own side-stories, possibly involving another villain while Oliver is busy battling Damien Dahrk. Let them be more like the Nightwing and Batwoman to his Batman instead of being 2 robins. However they aren't doing this and everyone just relies on him to fix every problem(The latest episode is a good example of this).
They had a chance to do this last season with the brick trilogy and the beginning of this season. For some reason this show wants everyone to believe the team isn't shit without oliver.
Napoleonthechimp
Member
I think it is kind of boring. It seems like they spent most of their budget on the ship interiors and CGI, because as it stands they've used empty fields, warehouses and houses on loan from Arrow. Oh yeah, and some college.
Actually I wonder how much it costs them to hire out all the retro costumes.
Actually I wonder how much it costs them to hire out all the retro costumes.
The Outsider
Member
I'd put down Atom and Rip Hunter a tier each. Atom keeps fucking up, Rip doesn't really do anything.
Agreed. Otherwise, that list is pretty much perfect.
I was going to bump Atom down to B-tier, but that one shot in the beginning was too good for me to justify it.
And I just get a kick out of Rip bitching about everyone messing things up. Hopefully he does something useful soon though.
They had a chance to get rid of both weak links and yet decided to keep one.
I just don't understand it.
Because one of them can be salvaged. And it would be one woman with so many men without Hawkgirl.
Combat Wombat
Banned
I was going to bump Atom down to B-tier, but that one shot in the beginning was too good for me to justify it.
And I just get a kick out of Rip bitching about everyone messing things up. Hopefully he does something useful soon though.
Yeah I thought Ray shined despite his mistakes. His action scenes are so cool and I loved his moment with Snart at Vandal's house. I'm excited about their rivalry and how it will develop over the season.
God these haven't been remotely funny since last year. The dude just throws everything possible at the wall and with way too many images (25 is the sweet spot) any quality joke is drowned out.
The original synopsis guy quit and no one's been able to match his level. OnBenchNow is the best though, the others were cringeworthy.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Because one of them can be salvaged. And it would be one woman with so many men without Hawkgirl.
I agree on the dynamics thing, but they could have just as easily introduced a new female character next episode.
I just don't like Hawkgirl, the character or the actress who plays her. She's not as bad as Hawkman though, so I guess that's something and maybe she'll grow into the role without that wooden dummy hanging around.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Is it just
future Oliver we've been promised will appear?
Sara is awesome in this show. The bar scene and the scenes with Captain Cold are the best.
I still love that she asked Cold if he wanted to dance
Is it justfuture Oliver we've been promised will appear?
Future Barry and Cisco
BewareTheBatsie
Member
will also make appearancesFuture Barry and Cisco
Would love if Barry appeared in a lighter red for his costume if he is still active. Wish we could have other characters appear. It would be pretty cool to see if Laurel ever adopts the fishnet stockings. I wouldn't even complain if for no explanation she has the Canary Cry without needing the device in the future. Also if it's ever revealed she and Oliver are married, the backlash would be so intense.
Is it justfuture Oliver we've been promised will appear?
They should do a real shock episode, show a fully formed Justice League with Supergirl.
will also make appearancesFuture Barry and Cisco
I don't think it's been confirmed we're seeing
future versions
#1.05 "Fail Safe" Synopsis
PRISON BREAKTHE TEAM ORCHESTRATES A After some of the Legends are captured and thrown into a Russian gulag during the height of the Cold War of 1986, Snart (Wentworth Miller) leads the team in an elaborate escape plan to free their comrades. However, Rip (Arthur Darvill) gives Sara (Caity Lotz) a secret side mission that could prove not only to be a liability, but fatal to the team. Dermott Downs directed the episode written by Beth Schwartz & Grainne Godfree. Original airdate 2/18/16.
JetForceGemini
Banned
I don't understand this hawk girl slander... Yeah the character sucks but the Character was better when she was with Cisco..
So let's bring cisco on the show, don't he have a power anyway?
So let's bring cisco on the show, don't he have a power anyway?
BronsonLee
Member
Are you fucking kidding me with that episode description
I don't understand this hawk girl slander... Yeah the character sucks but the Character was better when she was with Cisco..
So let's bring cisco on the show, don't he have a power anyway?
For me, I remember how that character is portrayed in the comics and animated shows. She was a great character. Here she's always in danger, unsure, losing some fight, standing around doing nothing as someone within mace-reach is getting beat down, etc. It's like damn writers, do something with her already.
BronsonLee
Member
Hawkgirl will be fine, because we're basically just getting the origin story shit out of the way.
After this, Hawkman will pop up from time to time, and things will be better.
After this, Hawkman will pop up from time to time, and things will be better.
StopMakingSense
Member
Hawkgirl will be fine, because we're basically just getting the origin story shit out of the way.
After this, Hawkman will pop up from time to time, and things will be better.
Yeah, i think it will be better now that her character development will be more than her remembering times she had sex with a boring guy.
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