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Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate |OT| The ninjas are free; the swimsuits are not.
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I'm having trouble with two things in this game: Dealing damage and pulling off stagger escapes. I've hit opponents with crazy combo chains only to look at their HP bar and be underwhelmed. Meanwhile they hit me twice and take off a quarter of my health. What am I doing wrong?
The other issue is stagger escapes. I'll get put into a critical stun state and get destroyed off an unending combo (I'm looking at you Helena and Pai). Is Hold+mash directions the only way out? I've tried that and it's super unreliable.
The other issue is stagger escapes. I'll get put into a critical stun state and get destroyed off an unending combo (I'm looking at you Helena and Pai). Is Hold+mash directions the only way out? I've tried that and it's super unreliable.
Re: Damage - Who are you using? What kind of attacks are you using to extend stuns? Are you using critical bursts? Launchers?
Re: Stagger escapes - You should pay attention to the stun you're put into. Some stuns have followups from which you can't escape, so your option is take damage or hold out of it. Some people wait for you to stagger escape so they can throw/go for a mixup.
Also, I read they changed how you perform the escapes now. You have to hold H and do 360s on the joystick. Are you doing that or performing it way it was in previous games?
But, imo, stagger escapes are a horrible mechanic. Mostly due to the amount of stuns there are in this game.
YoshiStrife
Member
Terrible that this isn't in the EU store yet. I guess it's looking like next week's store update now, on Wednesday.
-Plasma Reus-
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Make a US PSN account, download it.
Nothing so far. I emailed support yesterday afternoon. I have yet to hear back.
YoshiStrife
Member
I have but I cannot transfer my EU data to it.
Nude mods for ERRYBODY!
And that's why Tecmo won't do it. They cracked down hard on DOA3 modders on the X-box 180.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Play combo challenges to learn strong combos or at least give an idea for your own.
The point is to build up multiple stuns on opponent without knocking him down, then gamble launcher and juggle, hi counter throw or other powerful move.
In doa you cancel stuns with holds (counters), when you're stunned, counter. You must guess what's coming - high,mid p, mid k, or low and counter accordingly.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
Pretty much. I suspect it woudl be less then 48 hours ffrom game release till the first nude mod skin.
It's not like that's any different from most things with mods, and it is a terrible reason to not release the game on the platform.
ihearthawthats
Banned
what's your idea of a "crazy combo chain" and you do you play? if you're trigger happy, you might be getting counterhit a lot for increased damage.
i don't even bother with stagger escapes. i just guess with holds, but i'm a scrub.
grap3fruitman
Banned
How do you play this game? Seriously.
I also can't find a character I like... =/
I also can't find a character I like... =/
ihearthawthats
Banned
i actually found tekken revolution way easier to pick up. which is weird because i played the heck out of doa2 more than any tekken game.
tekken = launch -> do whatever.
doa5 = stun -> learn dozens of variations or get held all day long.
that being said, i really like the game. but yeah, also still trying to find a chara i like.
Come on now, grap3. You know more than most how to play this game. You secretly love it.
Gonna be going through everybody's combo training. Here's Rachel's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCAy23c3nZQ&feature=youtu.be
Wanted to do Ein's but there's a combo that I couldn't land. need more practice. (Seriously, though, 3 WS+Ks in a row and THEN 66KKK WTFFFFF...Couldn't get the last part to land :/)
Edit: I'm not trying to make it look like I'm super awesome at the game, so these include my failures as I try to figure out stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCAy23c3nZQ&feature=youtu.be
Wanted to do Ein's but there's a combo that I couldn't land. need more practice. (Seriously, though, 3 WS+Ks in a row and THEN 66KKK WTFFFFF...Couldn't get the last part to land :/)
Edit: I'm not trying to make it look like I'm super awesome at the game, so these include my failures as I try to figure out stuff.
DivineRage002
Member
See Skyrim.
But seriously, who cares.
Edit: I'm pretty sure if it ever came out on steam it could get a pretty decent community. Workshop support would be great too for costumes, a-la dota 2.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
As if Tecmo releases anything on PC anyway.
CrackPebbles
Member
Assuming you can find games would you post videos of your matches? i can't really find much on youtube and idk if this game has a japanese scene of high level play i can watch. I'm new to doa and have NO idea how I should approach things, I think I'll stick to Ayane.Gonna be going through everybody's combo training. Here's Rachel's:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCAy23c3nZQ&feature=youtu.be
Wanted to do Ein's but there's a combo that I couldn't land. need more practice. (Seriously, though, 3 WS+Ks in a row and THEN 66KKK WTFFFFF...Couldn't get the last part to land :/)
Edit: I'm not trying to make it look like I'm super awesome at the game, so these include my failures as I try to figure out stuff.
Not even that. The girls/men are fully "nude" and the costumes you choose are texture swapped on them IIRC. Similar to how a real-person puts on clothes. At least that's how it worked in DOA3 and XBV. I dunno how it works in 5.
Tecmo cares. That's why they had that long ass legal warning in DOA3/2U/XBV/XBV2/4 on game-bootup and cracked down on X-box modders.
Whoops, double post.
As if Tecmo has anything but Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive going for them anyway.
I'll be playing a bunch locally this weekend, hopefully.
I'm not the best Ayane, but I do use her.
grap3fruitman
Banned
I don't love it at all. It has all the same major issues I've had with the series since '05.
What I mean when I say "How do you play this game?" is I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the changes.
I didn't like DOA5 Vanilla either but I knew to chain as many sit-down stuns together as possible. They seem to have changed all the moves that caused sit-down to either knock down or do that weird-ass bounce that I can't seem to follow- up with anything.
So, how do I play? What am I fishing for in order to get damage? I don't want to play the stupid stun guessing game. DOA5V allieviated that a tiny bit but then kept chipping away from it with each consecutive patch and now even more-so with this "Ultimate" version.
Pimpbaa
Member
lol, this is why I will never get good at fighting games. Too old to do that shit. I'll just be mashing the buttons and looking at boobs.
Orpheus Telos
Member
I haven't got mine either. It's a bit annoying.
DivineRage002
Member
Anyone has a tip for Hayate's Raijin? (His complicated grab?).
I can't see to chain the second part no matter how fast I input it. Every key press seems good.
I can't see to chain the second part no matter how fast I input it. Every key press seems good.
buddha0991
Member
As if Tecmo has anything but Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive going for them anyway.
Doesnt the warriors series sell way more than doa in japan and tecmo and koei are one company now
GrayFoxPL
Member
Timing is weird. Don't input too early. Input the second part when he flips over about when their heads meet so that the throw button is pressed just when Hayate shoots opponent with his legs. There's even sound effect. Boom. If you press throw when opponent is in the air it's too late.
Sorry, that's the best I can do.
ihearthawthats
Banned
just gotta be fast. my input often looks something like 961473, but i still get it. so i don't think it has to be super accurate.
GrayFoxPL
Member
It really doesn't. My dpad is really wonky and makes 6-7 additional inputs sometimes.
It register as long as you have all the required inputs. Btw some directions can be reversed and it's still ok.
DR2K
Banned
The new stuns look like you can't get anything off then, but that isn't true at all. I'm relearning Helena, this is nothing like DOA5.
What's that?
How could they give so much great tools to the new characters, but completely neglect the old characters? Why would they even remove the tools and set-ups from some of the already low-tier characters!? It makes no sense, ahhh!
Also, I didn't think I would miss the ground game this much. To make matters worse, you can now force unholdable moves again, but only some characters have the ability now to force tech. Ahhh!
Also, I didn't think I would miss the ground game this much. To make matters worse, you can now force unholdable moves again, but only some characters have the ability now to force tech. Ahhh!
Try emailing their Customer Support. I emailed them yesterday afternoon, and they just got back to me with a code.
So much for the "Reply within 12 hours", but they came through.
DR2K
Banned
Which low tier character got nerfed?
Hoya Destroyer
Member
lol. Yeah, its true.
Just the ability for the player to put any modded costume into the game they wanted, would be enough to stop them buying TN's DLC outfits.
I would love to know how much money TN make off DLC, compared to game sales (and which DLC is most popular).
Eliot got hit pretty badly. No guaranteed down hit after 6h+k or 1p+kk anymore, 6h+k now unsafe, 6p+k now being a knockdown hit has caused him to lose his best guaranteed set-up (h+k, 6p+k, 6h+k, instant 3p, instant 3p, instant 3p, 3ppp46p), can no longer force tech with 2p+k (i.e 236f+p pp 2p+k for +19 force tech), 7p no longer stuns, and the nerf to the parry kinda sucks. I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. On the bright side though, he now has a mid tracking move that is faster than 35 frames.
GrayFoxPL
Member
s_mirage
Member
Could be a good thing for the possibility of a PC port (that and the arcade version's hardware), Koei have released PC ports in the past. Albeit so quietly no-one noticed.
I'm not holding my breath though.
DOAX2 already had paid unlocks for each character. :>
DR2K
Banned
According to Fork at fsd he got some good buffs to compensate.
Yeah, but you still had that $60 entry fee. I'm talking a Core Fighters type of thing where you download the base for free.
They'd probably give you volleyball/whatever other games and charge for the photo mode and the extra swimsuits. I'm sure there'd still be paid unlocks for a boxed version though.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
It would be interesting to see if a (likely) low-selling game, with high-selling DLC could be economically viable. I think DoAX3 might fit this catagory.
It could be a good way for consumers to avoid the swimsuits they dont like and just focus on the one they do by selecting them via DLC.
Again, I'd love to know how much money the DoA5 outfits are making.
Dead to Rights
Member
Has anyone received their DLC code from Amazon yet?