Dead Space 1 is better than any Resident Evil games made

Dead Space 1 is better than any Resident Evil games

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Meh. Dead space 1 runs out of steam about two hours before it ends. The monster in the closet gag gets old and they keep it up through the whole thing. Re4 is entertaining throughout which is super impressive because it's twice the length.
 
Fafalada said:
Oh that's not even a debate - DSR is just a pale imitation of the original.
But yea - original hit the notes of 'survival horror' in ways than most RE games just don't for me - especially not RE4 (which I'll admit - is not my favourite in the franchise either - for a number of reasons, least of all being that original is the rare game to make me violently motion sick due to its camera).


Sort of agree but it's also the point. Boss encounters are the anathema of the genre, and og. DS mostly treats them appropriately (by sidelining them). And the moment EA funding in sequels allowed them to embrace Uncharted 2 inspirations wholly the whole IP went off the rails - badly, so it's really for the better og couldn't afford them for most part. But the environmental story telling more than makes up for it - each part of the Ishimura was rather memorable to me - from the time you first step on the bridge or encounter zero-g, to the cult-infested living quarters etc.
Where it really failed on its nose was the planetfall - that was by far the worst part of the game - mechanically, narratively, and ultimately - the final battle.
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I don't have a ton of experience with Dead Space. I loved it when it originally released and I do remember it being very tense, but I only played it once. I replayed it a year or two prior to the remake and thought it aged a bit poorly. The tension was largely gone and the novel aspects could make up for a lot of the shortcomings. I also had something from the Zero Punctuation review stuck in my head regarding the vents in the space station and I can't erase that cheesy monster closet trope from my circuits. I played the remake once and it was fine (different uniforms to the base necromorphs was a good addition, nerfing the Assault Riffle sound was a bummer). The story and characters were never my thing in the original so I'm not sure if the remake screwed those up. It's probably a better action game than it is a horror game, but most of the shortcomings (enemy variety, set pieces, etc.) detract from that action experience.
 
Resident Evil 4 is EASILY better than Dead Space. The OG Resident Evil's 1 and 2 are better than Dead Space. The remakes of Resident Evil 1 and 2 are better than Dead Space. Dead Space is a very good game but it's a highly overrated game.
 
Dead Space is way better than Resident Evil. The only thing I can think of that RE has over Dead Space is that amazing nostalgia factor that kicks in with RE 1/2/3. Especially for me with RE2. Something about that beginning of the game from back in the day really is fond in my memories.
 
MacReady13 said:
Resident Evil 4 is EASILY better than Dead Space.
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manfestival said:
Dead Space is way better than Resident Evil.
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I would agree for all of them except RE4.

There's no denying that the game is a classic that holds up so well, it's better than its remake.
 
I'm sorry but why are people shitting on the Dead Space remake? I thought it was pretty phenomenal and I loved the original to bits. Not getting a remake of 2 by that team is a travesty.
 
The remake of the first 2 games and both RE4 are some of the best games ever, as good as Dead Space is, it doesn't come even close.
 
Valt7786 said:
I'm sorry but why are people shitting on the Dead Space remake? I thought it was pretty phenomenal and I loved the original to bits. Not getting a remake of 2 by that team is a travesty.
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It was fkn amazing and better than the original in every way except for difficulty IMO. The hardest difficulty was a joke first playthrough which was sad, because the original was legit rough.
 
I'd say no. Dead Space kind of felt repetitive after the halfway point. I struggled to finish the remake. Personally I didn't like chapter 6 and 7.

I like 2 more, despite being linear.
 
MicTyson said:
Resident Evil 4 for its time was a classic but not so much anymore. I honestly never really got into any Res Evil game and 4 was the one I played the most.

I played through Dead Space and thought it was really good at first but it becomes a slog to play imo. I find it to be a very mediocre title all in all. The first 30 mins of Dead Space is the next 10 hours of Dead Space.
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"Not so much anymore" ? Why all of sudden isn't it considered a classic now? OG still holds up to this day
 
bender said:
I replayed it a year or two prior to the remake and thought it aged a bit poorly. The tension was largely gone and the novel aspects could make up for a lot of the shortcomings. I also had something from the Zero Punctuation review stuck in my head regarding the vents in the space station and I can't erase that cheesy monster closet trope from my circuits.
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Tbf - yes there's a bit too much of that, but then it's such an established trope in anything resembling horror with combat, and DS is really one of the less offending titles in that sphere. Eg. Doom 3 was doing it so much worse, that by the end of the game I could predict the monster spawn points almost every time way before anything happened. And it's still a trope today - hell a recent highly praised SH2 remake is full of it too (arguably more so).

But the remake just made a lot of mechanics and control changes toward the more action oriented game we got in sequels (from zero-G flying to run&gun etc.) that weren't in the original. Yes Isaac was more clunky but that was the whole point (and why threats felt more like actual threats in the og) - he's a damn engineer in an engineering suit, not an undercover super soldier.
I will say though that the only right way to play the game is without using the waypoint help (which is how I platinumed the original game - because I never realized there was a button for it :messenger_grinning_sweat: ). Think of it like playing TLOU without super-hearing-vision, it's a crutch that genuinely changes the way game feels.

bender said:
The story and characters were never my thing in the original so I'm not sure if the remake screwed those up.
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Unfortunately yes - it made everything so much worse. I get that not everyone likes silent protagonists (although that was the pitch perfect choice for the kind of atmosphere DeadSpace had) the new Isaac is somehow more chatty than NuLara + Alloy combined, and that's in addition to getting a bunch of really badly written melodrama backstory that adds nothing to the character or the overall plot (There's some James Sunderland-esque nonsense in there that just doesn't work in context at all, and none of it has any emotional weight or feels earned).
Nicole (which is like - the second most important character in the narrative arc - despite having a lot less lines than new Isaac now) doesn't fare much better. While original kept the whole dynamic something of a mystery, the new game is playing up her evil-turn so much that by the time you finally meet her (what was it... 6 chapters in?) it's actually surprising she doesn't immediately try to necromorph you (hey, they changed other things - so why not).
But somehow they kept that part of the story intact - just that none of the motivations fit anymore.

And that's of course - before the other note-worthy change - while the rest of the cast designs remain largely the same as in original game - Nicole and especially Isaac both look like completely different people. And not in a good way, and again - to no purpose at all.

bender said:
It's probably a better action game than it is a horror game, but most of the shortcomings (enemy variety, set pieces, etc.) detract from that action experience.
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I think that's what sequels were - and the remake, but DS1 was not (though EA certainly wanted it to be...).
 
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USG Ishimura and Racoon city both have their moments, dead space is a juicy horror game and very well may be better than Resident Evil unfortunately you can't say that around these parts where everyone praises resident evil no matter what.
 
I'm currently on my 2nd playthrough of the Dead Space Remake, and it looks and feels incredible. I'm loving every second, and i can't wait to get into Impossible mode.

But, better than ANY Resident Evil game? No. The RE games are some of my favorite games of all time. I love Dead Space, but it doesn't get close to that.
 
Soodanim said:
You know what, I can't be mad. I respect your placement of 4R, too. That gets far too much undue love. Dead Space 1 was bloody good and although I haven't played the remake I can confidently say it's inherently better than the worst OTS RE games. 3R didn't even make the list, which I find hilarious.

Also a fair statement. I can't be mad at this either. Dead Space 1 was the first game that made me turn around from the ambient sound effects because I thought something was coming for me. The atmosphere in that game surpasses anything RE has done before or since, and RE is my favourite franchise of all time.
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Yeah, the sound design in Dead Space 1 is amazing.
 
It is very close, I would say RE2 Remake is the best in that series, and Dead Space Remake is almost as good as it.
Dead Space Remake is better in a lot of ways and not as good in others.
I really enjoy the puzzle aspects of Resident Evil 2, the split narrative gives more replay value, seems to be more stuff to do in the end game to prolong replay value.
Dead Space is a flat out scarier game, the combat is more varied and faster.
I guess I give RE2 the edge in music, but sound design is better in Dead Space. Both have amazing aesthetics and enemy design and acting is good across both.
 
Valt7786 said:
I'm sorry but why are people shitting on the Dead Space remake? I thought it was pretty phenomenal and I loved the original to bits. Not getting a remake of 2 by that team is a travesty.
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Majority of people is saying Dead Space is good...just not as good as classic resident evil and its remakes.
 
Dead Space was great and has earned its place in one of the top 10 horror games probably, but it's not better than RE. It lacks that addicting factor for me to keep going. I played the game in chunks, but RE I could do an all day affair.
 
As enjoyable Dead Space can be, it has always been a one-trick pony and every game in the series loses steam after 50 or 60% of the campaign.

Better than the lower-graded stuff like RE5, 6 or the two Revelations games? Yeah, sure. Better than the others? No way in hell.

Not to mention REmake, 2 REmake and 7 easily outdo it in the scare factor as well.
 
The premise likes to compare apples to oranges just h cause they both are 3rd person shotloters. Dead space was clearly aiming for more survival while RE4 prioritizes action which is so evident by the amount of weapons and melee options you are provided as opposed to Mr. Upstairs Neighbor.
 
Definitely up there, maybe not as good as re rebirth or vanilla 2-3.

And better gunplay\gore than all of them (and i include the tepid first person titles)
 
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Valt7786 said:
I'm sorry but why are people shitting on the Dead Space remake? I thought it was pretty phenomenal and I loved the original to bits. Not getting a remake of 2 by that team is a travesty.
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It is a phenomenal remake, some people just hated the woke insertions and isaac talking.

Leave that aside and it improve on the original in almost every aspect.
 
I enjoyed dead space, but resident evil 4 is in a whole different league. RE is also an immensely broad franchise with a variety of different gameplay types.

This is just an on a whim kinda thing, but a xcom style tactical rpg RE game would be cool.
 
In no reality is this true - Dead Space looks great (the new one anyway), but that's about all I'd give it over RE.

Horror is all about player disempowerment, and I refuse to accept that a game where you can manipulate time as easily as Isaac, can be considered this horror masterpiece. Even on hard, DS1 is really easy.

People always talk about that trophy for beating the game with just the plasma cutter...This is the canary in the coal-mine of this game being pretty mid. If you can beat every enemy and boss with one weapon, how good of a game can it possibly be? Think of how many enemy types there are in Dead Space -- like 4 or 5? Think of how many enemies are in RE4...it's like at least twenty.

It sounds and looks great, but I think is let down by the difficult balancing and somewhat bland repetitive gameplay.

In terms of comparisons to Resident Evil, I think those games are all way too different from each other to compare the entire series to Dead Space, but if you just take RE4 alone, which is the most apt comparison, I think it blows it out of the water.
 
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GymWolf said:
It is a phenomenal remake, some people just hated the woke insertions and isaac talking.

Leave that aside and it improve on the original in almost every aspect.
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Meh, from what I remember it was a bathroom sign, maybe a poster and the black girl instead of the white dude at the start? Lame changes but easily ignored and the girl is killed off in the first 20 minutes anyway.
Isaac talking just makes more sense to me as well, no one's gonna be silent in that situation.
 
Valt7786 said:
Meh, from what I remember it was a bathroom sign, maybe a poster and the black girl instead of the white dude at the start? Lame changes but easily ignored and the girl is killed off in the first 20 minutes anyway.
Isaac talking just makes more sense to me as well, no one's gonna be silent in that situation.
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Isaac talking i think only "ruin" a scene towards the end because it was more atmospheric without him talking, but yeah the woke insertions were super mild compared to the shit AAA publishers usually put on their games.

Isaac girlfriend was also grannified if i remember correctly.
 
CrimsonTide said:
Ok ok ok, forgot about that jank fest, well RE perfected it and brought it to the masses then. Also they were the first console 3rd person horror survival then lol
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Also wrong. Alone in the Dark was released on 3DO in 1994. Resident Evil Director's Cut in 1997 was the well playing version. The original release was janky as hell.
 
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MacReady13 said:
Resident Evil 4 is EASILY better than Dead Space. The OG Resident Evil's 1 and 2 are better than Dead Space. The remakes of Resident Evil 1 and 2 are better than Dead Space. Dead Space is a very good game but it's a highly overrated game.
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This is the take I agree with.

I remember Dead Space being better than it was. On the replay it has some flaws. RE4 Remake, RE4, even Ada's side quest in RE4 Remake is a better game than DS.

Dead Space is a good single flavor throughout. It gets tiresome but it is still good. RE4 gives you all the flavors and a bag of chips.
 
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NeverYouMind said:
Also wrong. Alone in the Dark was released on 3DO in 1994.
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Well.. I will take the L

However, if no one owned a 3D0, does it count?

Let me rephrase this once more

Resident Evil perfected the third person survival horror genre, and was the first of it's kind to release on a mainstream home console.

Now can I win?
 
CrimsonTide said:
Well.. I will take the L

However, if no one owned a 3D0, does it count?

Let me rephrase this once more

Resident Evil perfected the third person survival horror genre, and was the first of it's kind to release on a mainstream home console.

Now can I win?
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Nah. Its name is a misnomer as it is an action franchise with a horror skin. The original Silent Hill is much more true to the name and it certainly did not perfect it. I don't think there is a perfect survival horror title but if I had to vote for the one that flew closest to the sun my vote would go to ObsCure on hard mode.
 
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