mechashiva
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That's really just WWE logic.
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December Wrasslin |OT| Dean Ambrose, Muscleless Agent of SHIELD, Every Week :(
HarryDemeanor
Member
Oh mah goodness.
Welp, that confirms the Rock winning.
British Monsoon
Member
This Sunday, live from the Hammerstein Ballroom, Ring of Honor present 'Final Battle 2012: DOOMSDAY'
http://www.rohwrestling.com - $14.99
2PM EST | 5PM PST | 7PM GMT | 8PM CET
Also, I think there's a WWE PPV on Sunday, or something. Meh.
Looking forward to the ladder war match, and that grudge tag team match should be great. However, the placing of Elgin vs Strong on the card is pretty indicative of how badly they stalled Elgin's push this year - for my money, Elgin vs Strong should be the semi-main event, not Hardy randomly going after Adam Cole.
Alright, I'm outta here - off to watch some crazy BattlARTS stiffness;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS4A96Db0jI
Fuck. So irresponsibly brutal.
http://www.rohwrestling.com - $14.99
2PM EST | 5PM PST | 7PM GMT | 8PM CET
- ROH World Championship Ladder War Match: Kevin Steen (c) vs El Generico
- Special Challenge Match: Adam Cole vs Matt Hardy
- 3-Way ROH World Tag Team Championship Match: S.C.U.M. (Steve Corino & Jimmy Jacobs) (c) vs The Briscoe Brothers vs Caprice Coleman & Cedric Alexander
- Grudge Tag Team Match: The American Wolves (Davey Richards & Eddy Edwards) vs Kyle O'Reilly & Bobby Fish
- Jerry's Final ROH Match: Jerry Lynn vs 'The Prodigy' Mike Bennett w/ Brutal Bob Evans & Maria Kanellis
- Grudge Match: Michael Elgin vs Roderick Strong
- Special Challenge Match: Jay Lethal vs Rhino
- NYC Street Fight: Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team (Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin) vs Rhett Titus & BJ Whitmer
- The Embassy Implodes: Prince Nana vs Barrister RD Evans w/ QT Marshall.
Also, I think there's a WWE PPV on Sunday, or something. Meh.
Looking forward to the ladder war match, and that grudge tag team match should be great. However, the placing of Elgin vs Strong on the card is pretty indicative of how badly they stalled Elgin's push this year - for my money, Elgin vs Strong should be the semi-main event, not Hardy randomly going after Adam Cole.
Alright, I'm outta here - off to watch some crazy BattlARTS stiffness;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS4A96Db0jI
Fuck. So irresponsibly brutal.
You were doubting this?
pants
Member
Yeah but last year is a lifetime ago in wwe
There are only three matches that I want to see on that PPV and I don't feel like I want to see them live.
British Monsoon
Member
Four matches for me, but yeah, it isn't the greatest Final Battle line-up and kinda exposes how weak/dull the roster is, in parts. Like C&C for example - I like to watch them work and I think they show good promise, but they have zero personality. I wish ROH would bring in international wrestlers again, if only for big show like this one.
Or at least bring in talent from the best of the indies like they used to......that was the original premise of Ring of Honor.....now it has gone to DGUSA.
I hope they book it like this.
Would also be fine. Though I doubt they're willing to turn AJ heel, but I guess "crazy chick, eh" is good enough an explanation.
Still think it's unlikely she'll screw over Cena, that's way to much of a risk. WWE never takes those anymore, it's all safe booking nowadays.
Don't really know why she's not in the Battle Royal pre-show anymore, pretty sure she was supposed to win that and get a title shot later on. Either they don't want her to lose a title match yet and decided to protect her by taking her out of the Battle Royal or she has other stuff to do on the PPV and they don't want to have her be in a match afterwards. Which means, some kind of Cena/Ziggler interference is happening. Cena shutting her down on Raw when she wanted to come along to ringside for the main event would (in Punk/Bryan/Kane) days mean she'd be putting them through tables, so fingers crossed.
AJ/Ziggler would be a great team as Ziggler is way better interacting with someone than doing solo-promo's. It would turn him face though, as he would be oppossing Vickie by joining AJ. Maybe with Miz's turn failing there's room for another.
British Monsoon
Member
Well, that was always Gabe's vision, I guess. But yeah, even when ROH do bring in guys like TJ Perkins and ACH, it's only for short runs and neither were booked as anything other than minor attractions. The Young Bucks had a few runs, but they haven't used them at all over the past 6 months. ROH definitely could do with some new blood. It's a shame that Drake Younger is located on the west coast now, as he's a guy I could see doing really well in ROH and would be a great addition to the upper mid-card.
Net_Wrecker
Member
DAT PUNT is nuts.
pants
Member
Nocturnowl
Member
Imagine the terror of being whipped towards that smirking totem.
Everytime you run into one it no-sells it's padding and you end up hitting the steel underneath.
I want heel Orton back!
Fixed. He hasn't done anything note worthy in nearly a year...
He needs to come back to Raw primarily. They could've used him in the main event.
So yesterday we talked about how great Ultimo Dragon is. Today, let'y talk about how crazy the Great Sasuke is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0CqlmdC-vk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0CqlmdC-vk
I think they're cautious of putting someone with two strikes in such a prominent role - which is a shame. Orton's 2012 was so unremarkable, particularly compared to his amazing 2011.
MOST of his moves are clearly "let's see how bad of a bump I can take". It's amazing. And the older he gets, the crazier the bumps he takes. The Randy the Ram stuff is hilarious.
It's similar to the way they've used Rey for the past 2 years. He pretty much immediately stopped being anywhere near top of the cards after his first violation, and after the second one this year, he's clearly never going close to that again.
Was 2011 really "amazing" though? I enjoyed what Christian did but not really Orton... He was too powerful.
I'd say so. The Punk feud was great, even if people do hate it because Orton went 3-0. After his feud with Christian ended, which was even better, there was the feud with Henry which was much, much better than it had any right being, then his minifeud with Rhodes (which lead the Rhodes skull getting caved in on SmackDown) and then a pretty decent feud with Barrett. Good to great matches throughout. I'd have a hard time picking someone who had a more consistently good 2011 than Orton - I think Punk's the only one with a legitimate claim, but even he hit some considerable bum notes.
Edit: Define "carried".
Nocturnowl
Member
I'm still surprised they had Orton put over Henry clean two moths straight after his superman run, his 2011 wasn't exactly amazing but the matches were consistently good.
I actually fear that him going heel again will lose that sort of fast flowing energy he has as a face when he kicks up his five moves of doom and starts snaking it up since I find that made his matches more entertaining and conversely heel Orton brings the return of rest holds because they get boredom heat.
Orton actually had plenty of good matches this year as well, though his constantly winning booking after his suspension was ticking me off over the Summer.
I actually fear that him going heel again will lose that sort of fast flowing energy he has as a face when he kicks up his five moves of doom and starts snaking it up since I find that made his matches more entertaining and conversely heel Orton brings the return of rest holds because they get boredom heat.
Orton actually had plenty of good matches this year as well, though his constantly winning booking after his suspension was ticking me off over the Summer.
You've got to get heat. Whether that's the result of a likeable face or a despicable heel or both is irrelevant.
He lost to Del Rio via submission, lost to Big Show on Main Event and, most recently, lost to Ziggler on pay-per-view. Besides, he's hardly rocketed back up the card.
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Deleted member 47027
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I think I'm gonna stop watching WWE altogether for a while and focus on feds that make me happy instead of irritated. I noticed this week I haven't watched a single clip or recap from Raw, and instead of listening to one via the LAW, I didn't want to bother. I get the feeling this is the end.
That's alright though, because there's plenty of alternatives.
That's alright though, because there's plenty of alternatives.
British Monsoon
Member
Gotta love Sasuke, the guy seems like a complete nutter. That match from earlier in the year with Sasuke & Onita vs the Brahman Bros was insane. They dismantled the ring over the course of the match, and Sasuke was taking powerbombs on the ring frame.
You'll watch for Punk vs Rock.
Brock Lesnar talks about shooting on Antonio Inoki.
This been posted before?
This been posted before?
avengers23
Banned
Does anyone know whatever happened to the Urban Wrestling Federation? Did it just shut down because lack of revenue?
Spiderjericho
Member
I thought he was the Marine. Maybe this is filming for part 4.
And wow at that Layla picture.
Enjoyable read: http://www.wwe.com/classics/phantom-title-changes-26076117
Perspicacity
Banned
Someone's gotta do it. Punk is the hero we deserve.
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