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December Wrasslin' |OT2| I dec-declare this territory owned by the Holy Roman Empire
Jimmy King
Member
*and Ready to Rumble
Not even that because Jarrett would have been better in DDP's place. Hell, Bagwell would have been better. Or Hogan.
Frecklestein
Banned
I didn't grow up with Dub Cee Dubyuh and didn't watch most of his stuff till later on, but he's one of the good guys outside the ring. I also think his story going through Wrestling at an older age than most normally do is pretty cool.
FallingEdge
Member
from the inside cover of the ROH World of the War DVD
that circle next to Elgin's mullet is me, marks
too sweet me bro
that circle next to Elgin's mullet is me, marks
too sweet me bro
Serpentine
Banned
reptilescorpio
Member
Big Show reminds me of my cat. Does not give one shit about anyone around it, insane mood swings, zero concern for injuring others, acts like it's bulletproof.
Quite compelling to watch at times but a fair portion of the day you just want him to fuck off and leave you alone for a while.
Dang, I still haven't seen the late years of WCW. I was entertained by his stupid WWF run though. I wonder if he still feels tearing up his WCW contract to do that stalker run was a good idea, he got the shit kicked out him real good.
Frecklestein
Banned
Macho Madness
Member
He sucked until 1997 and then sucked again from 1999 on. He had a really short period where he wasn't annoying as fuck.
Frecklestein
Banned
'Come on, come on, come on, almost got it come on'
http://youtu.be/1dF03IDeZ5U?t=15s
Why did he suck during those times? I just know whenever I met people who loved DDP, the fucking LOVED DDP. Like I said, barely any WCW knowledge, so I have no idea why that is.
Oh man DDP is so fucking bad when he started. Like I'm amazed they kept him around he was so bad. And sometimes he'd try to mat wrestler and it was so awful.
He's never been a good wrestler. I know Stro likes some of his matches, so he might think differently, but I've always considered him mediocre in the ring and unable to tell any kind of story whatsoever besides 'my finisher is the diamond cutter that is my entire gimmick is my finisher.' Even Hogan can tell a story in the ring. DDP was relateable to the white trash/heelheat that watched WCW, so he was super over. And the finisher was over. He had an awful look beyond being tall, he wasn't cool looking, and he cut shitty promos. The WORST part is it was said he laid out all his matches move for move like a Flair or a Macho Man would. The problem is he's not a Flair, and he's not a Macho Man.
Pristine_Condition
Member
Is WWE Network down?
The WWE.com homepage works, but I can't seem to get into the Network from my browser. Haven't tried the app yet.
Edit: App seems to be working.
The WWE.com homepage works, but I can't seem to get into the Network from my browser. Haven't tried the app yet.
Edit: App seems to be working.
Jimmy King
Member
Flair laid out his matches?
Did not know that.
Did not know that.
He basically told you he was going to do the match and you just had to listen to him the whole way through. If you suck, it's a good way to handle a match, but I can see a lot of talented guys thinking 'no, I'm not doing that. I want to work on the match too.' Macho Man was similar but he actually had a notebook full of stuff. Steamboat said he had a notebook that's just covered in their match at Wrestlemania.
sf2fanatic
Member
Fantasy match-
Ronnie Garvin vs Cesaro
Hercules vs Ryback
Martel vs Del Rio
Tito Santana vs BNB
Who wins?
Ronnie Garvin vs Cesaro
Hercules vs Ryback
Martel vs Del Rio
Tito Santana vs BNB
Who wins?
Before 1997, he was an ultra shitty and annoying 80s heel. Like Honky Tonk Man level bullshit. After early 1999, he pretty much reverted back to that. Ultra cheesy, but not in the ironic way of Disco Inferno. Before his face turn, he wrestled like he was trained by HTM and Michael Hayes.
reptilescorpio
Member
He managed PS Hayes originally didn't he? He did something early on with Hayes I thought.
It's super awesome how passionate Macho was about wrestling. He would have been an awesome trainer for the young guys
It's super awesome how passionate Macho was about wrestling. He would have been an awesome trainer for the young guys
Jimmy King
Member
I know it's a point of pride for wrestlers to be able to call it on the fly but I'm wondering for you historians in here if that matters at all to you, whether it be ranking them against other wrestlers or individually.
I just remember Regal saying on Austin's podcast that everyone loved Steamboat/Savage until they found out it was laid out.
I just remember Regal saying on Austin's podcast that everyone loved Steamboat/Savage until they found out it was laid out.
It only matters how it looks to me. Macho's matches never felt like they were scripted move for move at all. A lot of DDP's matches did, though. All indie matches feel scripted move for move. Macho was probably even more awesome for being able to lay shit out move for move and make it feel organic.
I like my matches to look like fights. I like to see guys dragging each other through the ring like they're trying to kill one another.
I don't think that's ever the case for overly choreographed matches. Especially long ones.
I'll take Rude/Steamboat over Savage/Steamboat any day of the week. Both are great matches, but they're different things. Hell, I find Jake vs Savage looks a lot less choreographed, so you can see a match that's not laid out word for word beforehand and not know it.
I don't think that's ever the case for overly choreographed matches. Especially long ones.
I'll take Rude/Steamboat over Savage/Steamboat any day of the week. Both are great matches, but they're different things. Hell, I find Jake vs Savage looks a lot less choreographed, so you can see a match that's not laid out word for word beforehand and not know it.
Frecklestein
Banned
The way I see it, if I can't tell, if it's good, I don't really care. A good match is a good match regardless of how it was done. Though if I were to wrestle, it'd have to be on the fly, I'd get too stressed out if I missed stuff and it'd just be a mess.
Now that I think about it, it's probably more impressive to call it and have a long match like Steamboat Savage, for it to be great and seemingly have them go through all that they laid out. If they messed up in places or forgot to do something, I never noticed.
Not only that but almost all of Flair's matches are exactly the same. It's incredible.
BoboBrazil
Member
Imagine if someone used that ddos tool Lizardsquad released to take down the network or wwe.com
I'd love to see Vince's reaction.
Macho Madness
Member
He'd fire Titus O'Niel and wonder why that didn't fix it
FallingEdge
Member
Savage vs Roberts is like Storytelling: The Match. It's one of my all time favorites and it has little to do with any big spots. It has everything to do with the build-up, the normally high flying and technical Savage going to brawl and try to kill Jake, Jake DDTing Savage at the end. Pulling Savage up again and making Elizabeth beg and then DDTing him again.
That is still one of my most memorized moments in all of my years watching wrestling. Because that was't just 'a finisher' that was the DDT. I thought Savage was done. That feud made Roberts the greatest heel of all time in my book.
That is still one of my most memorized moments in all of my years watching wrestling. Because that was't just 'a finisher' that was the DDT. I thought Savage was done. That feud made Roberts the greatest heel of all time in my book.
Pristine_Condition
Member
Just don't do it when I'm trying to watch Sasha Banks... This blows.
Ha. Loser couldn't even kick out of two DDTs.
Frecklestein
Banned
Good save though. He didn't get Virgil'd at least.
Frecklestein
Banned
This is a relationship that goes beyond business. These are true friends. Shield 2.0 with REAL brothers..
reptilescorpio
Member
My santa presents are still awesome even though I know now that they were actually from my parents. I still remember how filled with joy I was, that joy has not been diminished. My pikachu Game Boy Colour is still boss as fuck.
Macho Madness
Member
Not thinking Trials Fusion DLC sold well if literally none of my friends have it.
BoboBrazil
Member
Imagine if they did it on a Monday and the announcers couldn't hype the network because it was down or they couldn't do any polls during the show.
In other news
"Al Snow ‏@TheRealAlSnow 1 hour ago
This has been a pretty tough month for me. I just farted in my wallet so that I could have some gas money.
Details
54 minutes ago
Still don't understand why you can't end a company-wide email with, 'Later bitches.'
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TNA still treating employees right.
I really doubt they are going to blow the briefcase so soon after doing it twice in two years, so it will happen this spring most likely.
Watch it on a month delay on the WWE network for only 9.99! No monthly commitment!
Also, I want Rollins to get a stable of bros.
J&J, Big Slow, maybe Korporate Kane (though I sense a reunion with D-Bry in his future), maybe Cesaro, Paul Heyman if Brock leaves, maybe the Ascension.
Wait is RAW actually on the Network now?
One month delay.
Remind me what match this is you guys are talking about.
Full version or condensed 90 minute version?
Macho Madness
Member
Full
FallingEdge
Member
Spider Man 2 always sucked. It was never good.
I liked it when it came out. But Spider-Man 3 actually made me realize all of the shit that made 3 suck was actually right there in 2 the entire time. Raimi's first Spidey movie is the best one, even if it's aged horribly
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