DeMarcus Cousins has been traded to the New Orleans Pelicans

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Yup, Deron Williams was being compared and argued over as possibly a better PG than CP3

Brooklyn trade was better

Garnett/Pierce deal is what we are talking about that wasn't a good looking deal at any point for the Nets. SAC will probably be as bad for just as long but it won't be from not having your own draft picks just an incompetent GM. The tank is on in SAC
 
You got anymore dripping hot takes? Straight from First Take too?

SKEEEYUP

First of all, lemme teya sumtin, Ernie. Y'all know DeMarcus and I aren't friends, but I think he's one of the best bigs in the league. But lemme teya, he's a turrble teammate and a whiny baby.

STOP IT
 
AHAHAHAHA

holy fucking shit, the hot fucking take

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/couside01.html

He's been averaging 4.9 assists this season. For a big, that's ridiculous. This entire season, every game I watch, half the Kings' possessions the ball goes through him and he facilitates.

Out of your fucking mind

So if you watch the Kings, you've seen numerous times he doesn't get back on defense because he's too busy bitching about a no call, or how many times he's taken a shot early in the shot clock.

That's what I mean by not playing team ball or defense. Cousins and Rudy Gay are both heavy ISO players and they frequently take awful shots in crunch time and don't commit to defense.

Also you're aware the backup point guard is second in assists on that team right? I'm not knocking Cousins' ability to distribute, that's impressive as shit. I'm knocking on the Kings lack of playmakers besides Cousins.
 
Sam Hinkie is fucking helping this team beyond the grave guys.

Dude needs to come back to Philly. Nobody like BC

Hinkie is a treasure. Really wish he was here to reap the benefits. I was willing to give BC the benefit of the doubt but this whole Okafor fiasco has given me no confidence in him.

Also Hinkie always got criticized for not being transparent but BC has been on about the same level if not worse in that regard with Simmons and Embiid and no one is giving him flack.
 
I mean, look, in the NBA where 16 teams make the playoffs and where a franchise player can have a bigger impact than in any other sport, the fact that Boogie's teams have always been so terrible does say something. But there is no denying his talent. The question now is if he is more of a Rasheed/CWebb who just needs a stable environment to harness that talent, or if he's just one of those guys who will never fully figure it out. I know one thing though, I'd be more than willing to pay the low, low price of Buddy Hield and a first round draft pick to find out.
 
I mean, look, in the NBA where 16 teams make the playoffs and where a franchise player can have a bigger impact than in any other sport, the fact that Boogie's teams have always been so terrible does say something. But there is no denying his talent. The question now is if he is more of a Rasheed/CWebb who just needs a stable environment to harness that talent, or if he's just one of those guys who will never fully figure it out. I know one thing though, I'd be more than willing to pay the low, low price of Buddy Hield and a first round draft pick to find out.

Rasheed and Webber are good dudes and excellent teammates, Cousins is nowhere near them.

Cousins does more community work than just about any player in the league.

to take his mind off losing

It's well worth the risk and the Kings are stupid for how they've handled this. The fact that they got so little for his perceived value is just a testament to how terribly they've mismanaged things since the minute they drafted him. This is 100% on the Kings and their garbage ass owner.
like Jordan0386 said on the last page, something must've happened between Cousins and the team for this deal to go down like this.
 
Rasheed and Webber are good dudes and excellent teammates, Cousins is nowhere near them.

Who knows. He could turn things around. We've seen it before with guys like Z-Bo. I mean, for the record, we are talking about a guy who is averaging 24/11 and a 25 PER "turning it around". LIke I said, i'm not 100% sold either way. Maybe DMC is just a head case. But the Peilcans are giving up next to nothing to find out. It's well worth the risk and the Kings are stupid for how they've handled this. The fact that they got so little for his perceived value is just a testament to how terribly they've mismanaged things since the minute they drafted him. This is 100% on the Kings and their garbage ass owner.
 
Rasheed and Webber are good dudes and excellent teammates, Cousins is nowhere near them.

Rasheed Wallace, part of that famous Jail Blazers team? Rasheed Wallace, the NBA's all time leader in techs, with a record-setting 41 techs in 2000-2001, otherwise known as a tech every other game? Rasheed Wallace, the all time leader for ejections in a single season?

Boogie, off-court, for the city of Sacramento, is undoubtedly a fucking treasure. Forget everything else, Boogie is friendly with players across the league, does community work. You're out of your mind.
 
You can look a the Jailblazers and all the "cancers" they had on their teams but somehow turned into productive starters and all-stars. The only cancer in this deal is the SAC organization, I feel bad for their fans they deserve better.
 
Seriously. I have no clue where that cancer label is coming from.
Cancer may be too far but the stories that have come out over the years don't paint him in the best light either, and more were probably kept under wraps. The feature Kevin Arnovitz wrote in January touches on a lot of it.

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/presents2/is-demarcus-cousins-sacramento-kings-real-problem

Kevin Arnovitz said:
This team needs no further persuasion on Cousins' skill set. It's reasonably assured he's a good-hearted person who has manageable behavioral issues that fall within the bounds of the normal human experience. But it's not sure it wants to pay the Cousins tax -- that 6 or 7 percent of possessions that not only take a team out of its offensive or defensive rhythm but whose negative outcomes can crush its collective spirit.

One general manager says he wakes up every day hoping one of his rivals trades for Cousins. Another says "No f---ing way" when asked whether he'd ever consider dealing for him.

The question, at least for now, is no more than a hypothetical, as it was reported on Jan. 10 that Cousins intends to sign an extension with the Kings for in excess of $200 million. But a teammate of Cousins' last season believes it remains the fundamental problem for any team on which he's the featured talent. Every day at work in Sacramento -- every practice, every play, every film session, every huddle -- has the potential to be a collective exercise in managing Cousins' emotional fiber, and the NBA season is simply too taxing for a team to take that on. "Nobody calls him out," the former teammate says. "It's an ongoing thing. Nobody holds him accountable, and nobody ever has. Sometimes we looked around when he was going at it, and everyone was thinking, Who's going to stop this?"
 
Rasheed Wallace, part of that famous Jail Blazers team? Rasheed Wallace, the NBA's all time leader in techs, with a record-setting 41 techs in 2000-2001, otherwise known as a tech every other game? Rasheed Wallace, the all time leader for ejections in a single season?

I wasn't gonna say nothing lol
 
Who knows. He could turn things around. We've seen it before with guys like Z-Bo. I mean, for the record, we are talking about a guy who is averaging 24/11 and a 25 PER "turning it around". LIke I said, i'm not 100% sold either way. Maybe DMC is just a head case. But the Peilcans are giving up next to nothing to find out. It's well worth the risk and the Kings are stupid for how they've handled this. The fact that they got so little for his perceived value is just a testament to how terribly they've mismanaged things since the minute they drafted him. This is 100% on the Kings and their garbage ass owner.

That's what I'll never understand. At least do your job and get quality in return. Who on earth thought this was the best they could have gotten for Cousins?

Situation A: get rid of Cousins right now and destroy playoff hopes, get fucking nothing in return

Situation B: see what happens in the playoffs, or at least wait for a better deal to pop up/trade him over summer and get a deal that benefits the kings in a big way

..what is the rush?

You can look a the Jailblazers and all the "cancers" they had on their teams but somehow turned into productive starters and all-stars. The only cancer in this deal is the SAC organization, I feel bad for their fans they deserve better.

:'(
 
Zack Lowe mentions he's heard some pretty reprehensible locker room stuff about Boogie (IIRC there are rumors that he treated Nick Stauskas like complete dog shit for no apparent reason) but again, at the end of the day the Pelicans are basically playing the nickel slots with a chance to win $100,000. You do that deal every day and twice on Sunday.
 
Zack Lowe mentions he's heard some pretty reprehensible locker room stuff about Boogie (IIRC there are rumors that he treated Nick Stauskas like complete dog shit for no apparent reason) but again, at the end of the day the Pelicans are basically playing the nickel slots with a chance to win $100,000. You do that deal every day and twice on Sunday.

Lowe brings it up every other podcast.

He wants to spill the beans so bad.
 
I've seen some speculate already that Cousins might be better from an attitude perspective in NOLA because all eyes won't be on him. He won't have the sole weight of carrying a team. He'll share the spotlight with Davis.

Maybe that happens, maybe it doesn't. But it's a risk I am more than willing to see the Pels take. It's much better than the alternative of missing the playoffs this season anyways and drafting a guy we hope is even 20% of what Boogie currently is.
 
I live in the Sacramento area, and all the Kings fans at work was pissed when they heard about the trade tonight.

They kept saying over and over, on air "the deal is pretty much finished" for him staying. They even said it as fact a few times that he'd be staying for years, as if it were done.

I can't believe they went public with this shit and flipped it.
 
I've seen some speculate already that Cousins might be better from an attitude perspective in NOLA because all eyes won't be on him. He won't have the sole weight of carrying a team. He'll share the spotlight with Davis.

Maybe that happens, maybe it doesn't. But it's a risk I am more than willing to see the Pels take. It's much better than the alternative of missing the playoffs this season anyways and drafting a guy we hope is even 20% of what Boogie currently is.
People keep saying it's a "risk" you've got a year to figure out if these Twin Towers will work together if it doesn't I guarnetee you can get a first, a rookie contract and expiring again next deadline. What's more likely is NO gets more for Cousins than SAC did, pissing fans off even further.
 
People keep saying it's a "risk" you've got a year to figure out if these Twin Towers will work together if it doesn't I guarnetee you can get a first, a rookie contract and expiring again next deadline. What's more likely is NO gets more for Cousins than SAC did, pissing fans off even further.

Yup, whatever happens, kings fans lose
 
http://www.espn.co.uk/nba/story/_/id/18723235/nba-explaining-demarcus-cousins-deal

Ok, given that information, the trade makes financial sense. Its still going to be painful for Kings fans though.

Thanks for this, good info.

"The irony is this rule was created to keep stars stay put with their teams. But its first application squeezed a team into trading a franchise player."

That's lame..

Saying the Kings are a good basketball team is only slightly more crazy than saying the earth is flat.

As a huge kings fan I can agree with this.
 
Wat

Why the hell would either team do that?

Ad stays never winning anything I guess.

How long until Boogie turns his cancer on that locker room?
We see this all the time in the NBA, but at least it isn't to the usual BOS or LAL, popular teams or ones who have frequently won.
 
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