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Democratic National Primary Debate #1 |Tokyo2016| Rise of Mecha-Godzilla
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Yeah they are hosting it, so it's exclusive to their channel and website.
http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn
Should be working in less than an hour from now.
The Chosen One
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Oh, the Democrats are actually holding debates?
I hope Biden parachutes in. As it stands, the only viewers will be Bernie's grand-children and Chelsea (not Bill) Clinton.
I hope Biden parachutes in. As it stands, the only viewers will be Bernie's grand-children and Chelsea (not Bill) Clinton.
Unknown Soldier
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It's not so much a debate as an official Mechagodzilla Anointment Ceremony unless Sanders goes hard in the paint with Mechagodzilla and doesn't get stepped on.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Such little hype for this....
No larry lessig is a shame
I have mixed feelings. Probably leaning towards Bernie since he is actually someone representing change will Hillary will basically be obama 2.0 pro corparate bs. That said... Hillarys stances on education and guns might be more progressive.
I agree with larry lessig that money in politics is the number one issue but if Hillary pushes hard on education ill take it. I dont believe her when it comes to all issues but in some she has a track record
Basically dont be a phony.
No larry lessig is a shame
I have mixed feelings. Probably leaning towards Bernie since he is actually someone representing change will Hillary will basically be obama 2.0 pro corparate bs. That said... Hillarys stances on education and guns might be more progressive.
I agree with larry lessig that money in politics is the number one issue but if Hillary pushes hard on education ill take it. I dont believe her when it comes to all issues but in some she has a track record
Basically dont be a phony.
The hype for Hilary kept most people from jumping in, pretty much as if it was incumbent election.
Rubio's a minority, jeels!
NullPointer
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It's Hillary's turn.
SolarPowered
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They're biding their time for 2024 since Hillary is the 800lb Gorilla in the small room. I expect the field to look a lot more interesting from a policy, race and gender perspective in 2024.
RastaMentality
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The 2024 democratic race is probably gonna be crazy diverse. I hope we can get someone Asian to run then too. More representation is always good.
It's easier to find diversity when you have like 20 candidates.
Still, you wanna get the young guys for 2024 on stage now so they can get that practice in...America will be an even browner country by then.
Diversity for the sake of sanity.
freeofgreed
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Are there any streams besides the CNN one? The CNN one says it's a preview so I don't want it shutting off on me part way through.
Prettty much. 1 non-white-dude out of five on the democratic side, and about that same ratio on the Republican side. It's just the sheer scale of the Republican debates that makes it seem more diverse.
Neuromancer
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Bern is going to hit Hillary so hard Bill's gonna feel it.
minor effort
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Larry Lessig isn't there because he isn't an actual candidate.
User 463088
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The good thing is that, since this is on CNN, regardless of who "wins" ITS A TIE!
Hillary Clinton is statistically tied with Sanders, so long as we accept the margin of error is +/- 20 points. Chafee will have a great night, soaring into a safe and secure 4th place. Which, when you think about it, is a statistically insignificant semi-lead. Because dear god we need a horse race. Pleeeeease let us have a horse race.
God I loathe CNN.
Hillary Clinton is statistically tied with Sanders, so long as we accept the margin of error is +/- 20 points. Chafee will have a great night, soaring into a safe and secure 4th place. Which, when you think about it, is a statistically insignificant semi-lead. Because dear god we need a horse race. Pleeeeease let us have a horse race.
God I loathe CNN.
NullPointer
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I agree. But the Dems seem to be putting all of their eggs in the one basket, and I doubt Hillary would warm to the possibility of being upstaged a second time by a youthful contender.
Oh man. I'm starting to love that orange furry maniac.
I almost had a stroke when they said Biden and Ryan "tied" in the VP debate in 2012. CNN is the absolute worst with that. I may hate the Fox agenda, but at least it's an agenda. CNN just wants to confuse people into thinking every election is going to come down to 1 vote for ratings.
Chie Satonaka
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I hope so.
Not so much because I'm in love with Sanders (though right now I do support him as compared to Hillary), but because I want people to get the notion of Hillary Clinton being an invincible juggernaut out of their minds, regardless of how true it ultimately is.
Challenging her is a good thing.
legacyzero
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GET EM BERNIE. Let the haters' salt FLOW
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NullPointer
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Damn straight. Her 'inevitability' is the thing that makes me nervous.
Is that the dude that says he will quit after he pass one law?
Me 3. Trying to turn this into an inauguration is going to do nothing but bore people and hurt voter turnout.
User 463088
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And the only people that call her inevitable are those who don't support her.
She's never said she's the inevitable candidate. Her campaign has said forever that she has to earn the votes. Her supporters believe she's got the best chance of winning. Being the favorite does not mean you're inevitable. It simply means you've got the best chance of winning.
She can't apologize for the fact that a large majority of the democratic party wants her to be our nominee.
legacyzero
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Things I'm hoping to hear tonight:
1- Ending Citizens United
2- Pay equity for female workers
3- Anti-TTP speak
4- A better health care solution
5- Better funding/support for SCHOOLS
6- A good immigration solution where EVERYBODY wins
7- Worker rights/entitlements like mandatory sick leave (for both parent and child), Mandatory maternity leave, protections from termination in certain instances
8- Taking care of our veterans PROPERLY
9- Gonna need a better deal with Iran. A WAY better deal.
10- ISIS. A REASONABLE solution that doesn't equal thousands of dead American Soldiers.
1- Ending Citizens United
2- Pay equity for female workers
3- Anti-TTP speak
4- A better health care solution
5- Better funding/support for SCHOOLS
6- A good immigration solution where EVERYBODY wins
7- Worker rights/entitlements like mandatory sick leave (for both parent and child), Mandatory maternity leave, protections from termination in certain instances
8- Taking care of our veterans PROPERLY
9- Gonna need a better deal with Iran. A WAY better deal.
10- ISIS. A REASONABLE solution that doesn't equal thousands of dead American Soldiers.
minor effort
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Yeah. I have nothing against Larry Lessig and I think he's an important voice, but there's no grand conspiracy as to why he isn't there. He's not running for president, he's running just to raise awareness of a single issue. You start inviting single-issue political stunt candidates to debates then you're going to get inundated with them.
LegendofJoe
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Lessig wasn't even listed in most polls because of DNC bullshitery.
andthebeatgoeson
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Sorry if this has been answered but is Biden not running? Was the deadline today?
NullPointer
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Oh God no. Its her supporters demanding others accept the obvious a year out that end up buttressing that narrative.
RodanCeros
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Time for America to meet my candidate.
Webb, Jim Webb. Desperado. Rough rider, no, you don't want nada.
Webb, Jim Webb. Desperado. Rough rider, no, you don't want nada.
Coriolanus
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minor effort
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Not yet. But he could probably crash his Trans Am through the doors of the arena halfway through the debate and they'd show him his way to a podium.
User 463088
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Sanders is standing to the right of Hillary.
DNC shenanigans trying to mentally imprint in all of us that the She-Devil of Arkansas by Somewhere in the Bronx is really to the left of the party.
I'm writing the DNC right now.
DNC shenanigans trying to mentally imprint in all of us that the She-Devil of Arkansas by Somewhere in the Bronx is really to the left of the party.
I'm writing the DNC right now.
QuiteWhittle
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It hasn't started yet?
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Deleted member 231381
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Never forget:
That's actually entirely fair. If two candidates are within the margin of error of each other, you don't have enough evidence to disprove the null hypothesis that they are tied.
freeofgreed
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I think that would fall under the worker's rights umbrella...
legacyzero
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It is, but I wanna know more about it first. I feel like Bernie's $15 "Living Wage" has a lot of draw backs.
User 463088
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Pointing out why someone is likely to win based on facts, historic trends, party demographics, infrastructure, party support and logic isn't calling someone inevitable. It's simply showing why one thinks she is going to win.
Why did I hope I wouldn't have to see John King tonight? Wishful thinking.
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