googleplex
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No just will for someone he agrees with 90% of the time that CAN actually win vs voting for someone he agrees with 99% of the time that CAN'T actually win.
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Democratic National Primary Debate #1 |Tokyo2016| Rise of Mecha-Godzilla
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No just will for someone he agrees with 90% of the time that CAN actually win vs voting for someone he agrees with 99% of the time that CAN'T actually win.
Fenderputty
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It's a good plan. Just not as popular as free. Which is basically political pandering.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Sounds like a lot of empty promises to me. What if I campaigned on giving everyone a free car. Would you vote for me?
Don't worry about how I'd get it past Congress.
Veritigo_X
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Huey talks too much.
Chezzymann
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Basically
only sensible thing he said.
So did Chafee.
Azure Dream
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He can literally kill everyone on this forum with his bare hands in 10 seconds.
And yet he's been waiting 10 minutes.
Fenderputty
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Chaffe had me rolling with that response, but lets get back to real good parts.
I think bernie just dominated the election tone and what it is about without Question. However if bernie supporters think this debate of his is winning him favors or supports where he need it clinton looked presidential as fuck at times. The denmark comment will sink in with the middle and middle left of this country. Same for the gun response and bernie berning himself at various points on the subject. Bern utterly was tempo and the beat but hillary was lyrics she went all out BAE.
I've knocked hilary for months cause of her lackluster response but the debate was uncanny and better than some of her stuff in the 08 election.
Webb was bold and ballsy fuck all you haters with the enemy comment. He paused a bit too. Talk about a bad time to try make humorous about your personal life and war.
If biden enters sanders, clinton, and o'malley should have no trouble ripping the republicans to shreds even more when they get the chance.
I think bernie just dominated the election tone and what it is about without Question. However if bernie supporters think this debate of his is winning him favors or supports where he need it clinton looked presidential as fuck at times. The denmark comment will sink in with the middle and middle left of this country. Same for the gun response and bernie berning himself at various points on the subject. Bern utterly was tempo and the beat but hillary was lyrics she went all out BAE.
I've knocked hilary for months cause of her lackluster response but the debate was uncanny and better than some of her stuff in the 08 election.
Webb was bold and ballsy fuck all you haters with the enemy comment. He paused a bit too. Talk about a bad time to try make humorous about your personal life and war.
If biden enters sanders, clinton, and o'malley should have no trouble ripping the republicans to shreds even more when they get the chance.
Against it personally. In college one needs to focus on school. Jobs detract from that.
I hope not because weed and pizza always polls high!
Vire
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Sounds worse than Obama to me in terms of false promises. For an old man, he seemed incredibly naive.
Officerrob
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Right...
Agreed as well
NullPointer
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"Cut it out" should haunt her. She needs to do better than that.
Unfortunately the house of representative will be on lock for the Republicans for years to come. There are things he will be able to do but a lot of his agenda will be certainly blocked. That said, I would still rather have him for president.
And absolutely none of this will get through.
BIG DIFFERENCE: Bernie isn't backed by Wallstreet. Also, the GOP actually passed a law that prevents people on welfare from buying pizza and cookies (I forget which states this is in affect). I would be running ads about this constantly!
Believe....believe.
I'm hoping that is DTL just being DTL. =/
Doc Holliday
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Holy shit Wayne Newton on msnbc. Lol
Azure Dream
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well they are in Vegas...
I don't get it. If he really plans on implementing these things then how is it a "false promise"?
SilentRacoon
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I know i should go to bed, it's 5:30 am but I couldn't resist for one last thing
Best thing to come out of this debate lmao
Basileus777
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Almost none of any of these candidates' legislative proposals will get through until they have a Democratic speaker of the house.
Webb is now leading all the GOP polls.
RageWaffles
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yep. I think he'd actually do pretty well if he were running as a Republican.
I think he has a chance on the college bit. There is bipartisan support for college reform. He might not get all of what he wants - same with Clinton - but it's a possibility. And I think weed will be legalized nationwide before the next president's term is up.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Truth hurts, I know.
Dude said carson is a leader but no democrats look like that. My god some celebs and entertainers just shouldn't be asked.
I'm not sure even if he won it'd be good. Gerrymandering means whoever gets elected is dealing with a broken system.
Then again, I'm of the opinion any real, sincere solution to our problems will not be found through patchwork, but the ultimate futility and collapse of our systems that produced them. I don't even think if Bernie got everything he wanted we'd be okay. Better off, sure, but still not okay. But that's a bullet in the chamber just waiting to be fired, anyway...
Compared to that alternative you cite, it's a fantastic proposition, and I can see why people would dig that. But it's still not a humane one. People should want to go to college because they want to learn, and want to use that learning to expand and/or improve lives near them and their interests. This should have as few impositions against it as possible, and the same should ever go so far as applying to the entire labor system as well. Maybe this is because I acknowledge one fact: the idea of necessity is only an idea, but not a real one. You don't have to go on living or doing anything, and this itself is liberation in the truest, honest sense. As such, we should cultivate a society that understands this and empowers people with these facts, instead of getting them caught into social fictions we call reality, and tell them they must play them all with the invisible handcuffs we shackle them into.
We are still, in many unfortunate ways, trying to get well adjusted to profoundly sick societies, based on the ideas it evocates and infers as the law of the land. I am very much against all of that shit and why I find this solution unacceptable. It's still a floaty, weak idea in a society totally running with many more of those as its collective ego. Free will is a big problem in America and poor justification for many human abuses and inequalities that are naturally produced by its social mechanisms and designs, and that is almost the response to changing this mess.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Hilldawg was very polished and thats what matters to alot of people. I'm still team bernie though.
My god!! you owe me a drink.
Probably. There was no entry point where Joe could have clearly outperformed the top two candidates.
It could be worse...they could had interviewed Ted Nuggant.
NullPointer
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lmao
UltimaPooh
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I dunno. I probably would if we lived in a world where free cars were essential to fixing our economic disparity.
Also would you cover the sales tax on the car? How many years of insurance and personal property would you include? What about registration and inspections? Would you also cover maintenance for a given period? Also what kind of car are we taking about?
Cow Mengde
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This is a bad way to look at it. We know Sanders can't do everything he's promising. This isn't magic fantasy land. I'm supporting Sanders partly to send a message like everybody else. We want to show you don't need big corporation backing to be president. We want to show people are willing to support radical ideas. Can he succeed, we don't know, but we're gonna try.
There's a difference between "optimistic goals" and "unrealistic pipe dreams"
A president in this day in age would be lucky to get one of those things through in a single term, assuming it isn't butchered to hell and back, and with the current Republican House, it stands absolutely no chance unless you want a superbly watered down or concession filled bill.
BreezyLimbo
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It's not wrong. She definitely 'won' even though she said nothing of substance. She simply sounded confident, said things that kinda make sense if you're not dissecting it, and was overall given the most time/spoke the most.
It seems about right to me.
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