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Democratic Primary Debate V

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Wes

venison crêpe
Both have landed significant hits and the exchanges have been incredibly lively. Thing the edge is going to Hilary but purely because of her current polling in NH, rather than her capabilities as a debater.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
When the word "smear" came out that was overboard. Informing the American public about special interests backing her is perfectly reasonable and he doesn't do it in Republican fashion. Hillary hasn't been swiftboated or done in by Karl Rovian tactic on Bernie's part. It's a clean disagreement and discussion

Except that the subtext in a lot of his comments, that his supporters have definitely picked up on, is that she's been bought and paid for by special interests. It's a fine attack, but let's just not act like it's not an attack and the implication isn't being made.
 
Exactly. Bernie went on a good rant about republicans and campaign financing but how does that prove anything with Hillary's voting or political views.

Because Hillary just denied straight up that she has ever changed her views due to her massive wall St donations.

Bernies response about how money influences politics was brilliant as it elucidates that relationship to the audience and pretty clearly shows Hillary is full of it by saying that.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
Killer debate so far. Clinton came out strong but Sanders got back in it.

I plan to vote for Sanders (I still don't believe he'll pass the majority of what he argues for but I respect that he's fighting nonetheless), but Clinton would be great too.
 

params7

Banned
How can any Republican stand up against either of these people?

I don't mean in terms of ideology, on which I'm obviously biased. I mean in pure debate skill. These two are head and shoulders above anyone on the Republican side, oratorically, even Cruz.

Cruz and Rubio will give Hillary a good challenge in those pure debating skills.
 

Effect

Member
She really is. I love Bernie but she's ruthless. No conservative opponent stands a chance.

The Obama vs Clinton battle was damn good for both of them. Very few modern politicians have been shaped the way they were I think during that. She might stumble here and there on a particular topic but you're aren't going to catch her sleeping. Best bring your A game now that it's one vs one.
 
Hillary frustrates me but she's a good debater

She'll TEAR APART whoever the GOP will put up there. They'll mention Benghazi and she'll just go on a tear showing them how much money the GOP "small government" wasted/is wasting on it. lol
Exactly. They will run circles around Bernie while he's talking about socialism and wall street. Call him weak, anti-capitalist, anti-American, and soviet sympathizer.
 

HylianTom

Banned
Because Hillary just denied straight up that she has ever changed her views due to her massive wall St donations.

Bernies response about how money influences politics was brilliant as it elucidates that relationship to the audience and pretty clearly shows Hillary is full of it by saying that.

But he doesn't connect any dots.

When he makes this kind of allegation, he best back it up. And he failed. Miserably.
 
If Hilary keeps being this aggressive she is opening herself up to a whole lot of shit when they start talking about institutional racism (mandatory minimums, drug policy), LGBT issues (against gay marriage for most of her life), etc.
 
Step back and realize these debates actually have substance to them unlike the GOP catch-phrase fests

I like the energy Hillary is bringing- she may have pushed a little much for my liking in that last exchange. The problem with debating Sanders is you know all of his answers will relate around income inequality- I debated for 8 years (yes I'm a nerd) and there's a lot of art to this. The GOP debates are debates in name only.
 

ant_

not characteristic of ants at all
This "go to my website/YouTube" has been the worst fucking part of this election cycle.

Use your words. Explain your position or what you did. Don't tell me to check your social media smh

He has 30 seconds.
 

Nipo

Member
But he doesn't connect any dots.

When he makes this kind of allegation, he best back it up. And he failed. Miserably.

Do you want him to just come out and call her a coin operated politician? Can anyone take millions in donations and not have it affect them?
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
"WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS"

"It doesn't work"

"then why are you attacking her on sth else"

"wat?"
 

harSon

Banned
Hopefully Hillary's demeanor this debate isn't viewed negatively in the eyes of viewers due to her being a woman. I'm personally loving it, but unfortunately qualities viewed favorably in men aren't viewed so favorably when embodied by women in the eyes of many.
 
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