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Democratic Primary Debate V
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Hellwarden
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Quick, someone throw a chair!
That'll kick this thing off!
That'll kick this thing off!
He's not calling himself a socialist for nothing.
Elfforkusu
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Yes?
Do you want a functioning financial system AND accountability when shit goes sideways? If so, you need to be able to let banks fail for their fuckery.
Lights and Waves
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Clinton is running circles around Sanders.
This is why people tune into Republican debates more. Broader variety of topics are discussed there. Or maybe MSNBC just wants to keep it to domestic financial/economic topics tonight?
Officerrob
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Are we forgetting that Obama guy then chose Hillary to be his Secretary of State? For one second do you think Obama prefers Sanders to Clinton?
For real, I need some information about something like immigration or national policies and all that stuff. I understand we're talking about our country but there's more to it than Wall Street and regulations.
gutter_trash
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That's not what I'm talking about here bro, but nice way to change tracks
But that is just fucking stupid. You will never win the general election with a message like that.
Even if there are inherent problems with some of these derivative markets, and obviously there are as far as oversight is considered, calling the business itself fraud reeks of demagoguery.
Community Forum
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I feel like Hillary could be saying the things she is saying without looking so worked up and pissed off.
I'm not even sure her speeches hold any confidential information. Still, she should release them, even redacted. I think America doesn't need another mercenary for Big Banking in the White House.
SaviourMK2
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She's trying to find her record
Not looking good for her how exactly?
Huh?
A lot of public figures do speaking gigs on the side to make some extra money. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Do you know what an oligopoly is and how it impacts the economy?
legacyzero
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Ugh. That hilary outfit. Looks like a damn potato sack.
CONFLICT. of INTEREST.
Very simple.
CONFLICT. of INTEREST.
Very simple.
To be fair, there's really only one correct way to approach certain topics (the earth is x billion years old), there's a lot of ways to be wrong!
She may have legitimate restrictions in place on releasing them. I'd be surprised if she didn't.
Besides, it's not the content they paid for. It's the access. The only thing transcripts would demonstrate is that she didn't say anything worth +$200k / speech.
If someone doesn't think people are paying for access to the Clinton family, I challenge them to explain Chelsea's speaking fee income.
Big Baybee
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Sanders always looks angry. Why does it matter?
You missed my post earlier explaining why she may not be able to: there may have been an agreement that those speeches are only for the people she gave them to and not to be released to the public. It does happen.
theignoramus
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WSJ: No one running for president this year has received as much money from Wall St. execs for campaigns as Clinton
I think the problem is Sanders won't just come out and fight her, he's dodging and just taking the high ground on the arguments, and it's frustrating her.
NYCmetsfan
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She's a women though. They can't be angry!
nocturnalis
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BREAK UP THE BANKS OR BAIL EM OUT AGAIN
Is this from Groundhog's Day?
WarMacheen
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I don't think high 6 figure sums is just for her speech, or any other politician for that matter.
I agree that they are paying for access. It's a good investment.
Of course it does. Because they're the one's that are bailed out with tax payer money, and cost ordinary people the most in the long run. I don't really get what you're arguing here. Others are corrupt too, so let's just let off the big boys? Is that your defence?
Pretty much how I feel.
And_Gignac
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His tone is great, only raising his voice to emphasize certain parts.
On the other hand, Clinton keep raising her voice, doing so for large chunks of her statements, which can and does sound off putting.
I really don't know how anyone could make a claim for her being a good debater. Her statements could be all right and better, but her tone and demeanor eliminates all that advantage.
Chie Satonaka
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He's gotten in some very good volleys, but in general, Clinton looks better so far.
Fake edit:
Lel. "I just became a grandmother 15 months ago and I became concerned about her future."
I hate when politicians spew this bullshit, democrats and republicans both. Your fucking kids and grandkids will be fine. It's completely ridiculous.
eBay Huckster
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Are you and others just gonna keep advancing a grotesquely facile view of the financial sector?
That there is no actual reason to break up the banks that has anything to do with their ability to tank the economy.
Spectromixer
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the msnbc keeps showing hilary quotes and clips during the breaks
Then people would say she was disinterested, didn't care, lacked passion or emotion. It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't.
WarMacheen
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Yeah, but Bernie won't say that directly. I suspect someone from the GOP may.
Lights and Waves
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Praying for your eye sight and vision tbqh
What the hell. They are both good debaters, but Clinton is excellent.
Your Entertainer
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Sanders definitely has looked better tonight. The focus on wall st exchanges are what has put him ahead.
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