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[DiddyBop]

im fairly new to the game and finally after like 25 tries to get to and beat the tower knight, ive done it! when he only had half his healthbar left my long sword decides to break:lol but i kept at it and finnaly beat the sucker. its funny cause no matter how many times i died i just kept goin back for more.

this game is completely awesome btw, gonna break and watch the playoffs right now

 

[tafer]

Yeah I think it was acid cloud, big cloud of green smoke? Not sure about god's wrath.

Thanks for the advice guys, I'll be running around in soul form from now on.

I think I'll just reroll a new character now since that'll be easier than repairing all my stuff.

Just in case, if you are feeling confident about your character and battle skills, there is nothing like black phantoms to rise your souls and ego!

They might be menacing at the begging, but with some knowledge and strategy you'll realize they are the ones in disadvantage most of the time.

 

[Johnas]

Whew...Maneater(s) defeated.

SL 49, Halberd +7, melee only. So glad that's over.

 

[AndyMoogle]

So if it's better to be in soul form when you play online... why not just play the game offline? I've barely touched the game yet so I don't really know what benefits you get from playing online.

 

[manzo]

I bought this game along with other PS3 games (GoW3, FFXIII, Last Rebellion, BlazBlue) when I was in the states.

Any good quick tips for a beginner?

 

[Hawkian]

So if it's better to be in soul form when you play online... why not just play the game offline? I've barely touched the game yet so I don't really know what benefits you get from playing online.

Er...

So many things here :lol

Okay, it's not "better" to be in soul form when you play online, it's different. You can't be invaded when you are in soul form. This might be good for you in the early portions of the game where you don't want to deal with PvP. You can invade other people's games and try to kill them, which is fun. However, you also cannot summon anyone into your game in Soul Form. You can join their games to help them out, and if you beat a boss with them successfully, you get your body back, but the boss isn't beaten in your world if it was still alive there.

In body form, you have your full HP, but are louder to enemies and don't do as much damage. In soul form you're slightly stealthier and stronger.

Now then... the benefits of online play regardless of which form you are in include:

-Seeing messages on the ground left by real players... these often tell you what to use on an upcoming enemy or that a valuable item is nearby
-Bloodstains that will show you the last 10 seconds of another player's life
-White Phantoms, intangible versions of other players in their own games; Can show you
hidden passages or the correct way to fight a boss if you watch them
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Spoiler

The 3-3 boss battle being much cooler

-Believe it or not, leaderboards for everything from total souls to PvP stats

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

Any good quick tips for a beginner?

1) It's NOT a button-masher even though it might seem like it at first glance: patience and timing is everything.

2) Isolate your enemies and fight them one at a time.

3) Get the cling ring ASAP.

4) Playing the game without any help is infinitely more rewarding than with help, but will also make the game considerably harder than it already is.

5) Don't rush - just soak it in. One of the best games this gen and one of my favorites of all time.

Best of luck.

 

[Braz the Mad]

those things are the worst! I ended up beating them last on my most recent playthrough just cause they're such a pain. Large Sword of Seeking owned them though.

 

[manzo]

1) It's NOT a button-masher even though it might seem like it at first glance: patience and timing is everything.

2) Isolate your enemies and fight them one at a time.

3) Get the cling ring ASAP.

4) Playing the game without any help is infinitely more rewarding than with help, but will also make the game considerably harder than it already is.

5) Don't rush - just soak it in. One of the best games this gen and one of my favorites of all time.

Best of luck.

Thanks for the tips.

 

[Bearthgar]

Read people's notes on the ground.

Sometimes they are spam, but they can really save you.

 

[elohel]

Read people's notes on the ground.

Sometimes they are spam, but they can really save you.

truf

 

[Killer]

I just got the game and its AMAZING! I really like it, but man this game is challenging. I died around 10 times in the first chapter and the dragon on the bridge is driving me nuts. any tips on how to beat him?

 

[Eliciel]

Whew...Maneater(s) defeated.

SL 49, Halberd +7, melee only. So glad that's over.

hehe I know what you mean, I had to fight him the whole night because I was melee only, too... it was one of my hardest fights in Demon's Souls. Killing him without glitching is extremely hard with only melee.

 

[TheThunder]

I just got the game and its AMAZING! I really like it, but man this game is challenging. I died around 10 times in the first chapter and the dragon on the bridge is driving me nuts. any tips on how to beat him?

You have to sprint across to the other said when he is finished roasting the ground, you have to time it well of course.

hehe I know what you mean, I had to fight him the whole night because I was melee only, too... it was one of my hardest fights in Demon's Souls. Killing him without glitching is extremely hard with only melee.

Hmm, I've beaten him melee only, no glitching, no Warding and no Second Chance. He is not the easiest boss around but definitely he is not harder than 2-2 or 1-4 *shrug*

 

[Hawkian]

hehe I know what you mean, I had to fight him the whole night because I was melee only, too... it was one of my hardest fights in Demon's Souls. Killing him without glitching is extremely hard with only melee.

Warding seriously improves the odds of this fight if you've got it.

Hmm, I've beaten him melee only, no glitching, no Warding and no Second Chance. He is not the easiest boss around but definitely he is not harder than 2-2 or 1-4 *shrug*

Well if we're just bragging, so have I, but it did take a number of tries.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

Ok, so i finished the game last night for the first time. GREAT stuff!

Spoiler

Was it just me, or was the final demon inside the ground in the nexus extremely simple? All i did was use my bow and i killed it in like 2 minutes and he never even came close to hitting me..??

Anyhow, i just started my NG+...in regards to trying to get the trophies for 'learn all spells', and 'learn all miracles'. My plan is to just go and talk to those magicians when they are in the nexus again and just write down all the spells i currently have from my first playthrough (by going to the 'memorize' option). In my 1st game i wasnt really thinking and didnt just get all miracles, or all spells, i did a mix of both. For this game i figure that i can just get the ones that i dont currently have on my memorize lists. Does that make sense, and would that work?

 

[Larsen B]

Spoiler

Was it just me, or was the final demon inside the ground in the nexus extremely simple? All i did was use my bow and i killed it in like 2 minutes and he never even came close to hitting me..??

I think that's your reward for managing to best the False King.

 

[MDSLKTR]

WTF! So I accidentally in the lava pool in 2-1 (near where there's burning lizards crawling on the walls), when I returned there to get back my 3k souls, my blood puddle wasn't there and I felt again FUUUUUUUUU :lol I could have used those souls damn it!

 

[astroturfing]

WTF! So I accidentally in the lava pool in 2-1 (near where there's burning lizards crawling on the walls), when I returned there to get back my 3k souls, my blood puddle wasn't there and I felt again FUUUUUUUUU :lol I could have used those souls damn it!

sometimes they can be in a slightly different place, but they are always somewhere near-by. after literally thousands of deaths, intentional and accidental, i know

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

WTF! So I accidentally in the lava pool in 2-1 (near where there's burning lizards crawling on the walls), when I returned there to get back my 3k souls, my blood puddle wasn't there and I felt again FUUUUUUUUU :lol I could have used those souls damn it!

Oh i remember back when i thought 3,000 souls was alot to lose... :lol

By the time you finish this game, there will be times when you will die and lose 30k of souls or more..

 

[Hawkian]

Oh i remember back when i thought 3,000 souls was alot to lose... :lol

By the time you finish this game, there will be times when you will die and lose 30k of souls or more..

:lol anything under 50k was a shrug by the time I beat it.

 

[Yoshichan]

WTF! So I accidentally in the lava pool in 2-1 (near where there's burning lizards crawling on the walls), when I returned there to get back my 3k souls, my blood puddle wasn't there and I felt again FUUUUUUUUU :lol I could have used those souls damn it!

:lol :lol :lol

 

[oracrest]

WTF! So I accidentally in the lava pool in 2-1 (near where there's burning lizards crawling on the walls), when I returned there to get back my 3k souls, my blood puddle wasn't there and I felt again FUUUUUUUUU :lol I could have used those souls damn it!

I did one better, walked into the lava pools down in 2-2, and got to the item that is just out into the pool, i was overburdened, dropped it, then I died.

soo... the item is gone forever, does anyone know what it was?

 

[dgenx]

Ok! I beat it, damn what a ride , what a game!

awesome!


little story: I was in the second part of the blue dragon, and I manage to run through the flames, so I lock him AND MY FUCKIN BOW BREAKS D:! I spend like 10 or more min throwing him like 300 arrows :lol

now I can get back to my life! normal gaming!

 

[BobTheFork]

WTF! So I accidentally in the lava pool in 2-1 (near where there's burning lizards crawling on the walls), when I returned there to get back my 3k souls, my blood puddle wasn't there and I felt again FUUUUUUUUU :lol I could have used those souls damn it!

You accidentally the whole lava pool, damn.

 

[Broseybrose]

I did one better, walked into the lava pools down in 2-2, and got to the item that is just out into the pool, i was overburdened, dropped it, then I died.

soo... the item is gone forever, does anyone know what it was?

im positive it is not a unique item you lost. no biggie.

protip- 1-1 - the set of chains you slash to get the jade ornament and some ragged clothes.... talk repeatedly (exhaust the talk option, exit and enter conversation) to stockpile thomas until he asks you for the ornament. he'll give you a ring...

 

[BlindMonkey]

You accidentally the whole lava pool, damn.

 

[TheThunder]

Warding seriously improves the odds of this fight if you've got it.



Well if we're just bragging, so have I, but it did take a number of tries.

Hey get your e-penis away from my face

Seriously, I wasn't bragging and it took me a number of tries before I beat him but apparently it didn't give me as much trouble as some people in this thread.

Ok! I beat it, damn what a ride , what a game!

awesome!


little story: I was in the second part of the blue dragon, and I manage to run through the flames, so I lock him AND MY FUCKIN BOW BREAKS D:! I spend like 10 or more min throwing him like 300 arrows :lol

now I can get back to my life! normal gaming!

you can throw arrows :O !!!

 

[dgenx]

ok shoot arrows -_-

 

[TheThunder]

So you made me hyped up for nothing !!

boothisman.gif

 

[Vinlaen]

How bad is the death penalty in this game?

I know that you lose your souls but you can get them all back if you reach your corpse, right? How difficult is that?

I love the idea of the game but have limited time to play and the idea of dying, losing all my progress for the last hour (or longer), doesn't sound that good.

Maybe I should just pass on the game but I'd really like to give it a try...

(Especially since I already own the deluxe edition (with the guide). [I'm a compulsive game buying addict but rarely play the crap I buy] I've thought about selling it on eBay since this version since to go for a crap-ton of money...)

 

[Peff]

How bad is the death penalty in this game?

I know that you lose your souls but you can get them all back if you reach your corpse, right? How difficult is that?

I love the idea of the game but have limited time to play and the idea of dying, losing all my progress for the last hour (or longer), doesn't sound that good.

Maybe I should just pass on the game but I'd really like to give it a try...

(Especially since I already own the deluxe edition (with the guide). [I'm a compulsive game buying addict but rarely play the crap I buy] I've thought about selling it on eBay since this version since to go for a crap-ton of money...)

Depends on the level. The blood stain that allows you to recover the souls appears at the point you were ten seconds before dying. That usually makes getting it safe... if you can reach the place, which is usually the problem. You WILL die, but if you're careful, the loss of souls won't mean too much because you can enter levels with as few as possible. Also, you don't really lose progress most of the time, since you will be opening shortcuts and getting items that you keep regardless of dying or not.

 

[Hawkian]

If you die on the way to your bloodstain, the souls are gone forever.

But the more important point is that making "progress" in this game has a lot more to do with improving your own awareness and skill. It will likely take you between 3-5 hours to beat the first level, before you are even able to upgrade your stats. But you learn a ton about how to play the game in that time.

 

[Vinlaen]

OK - Thanks for the information.

I might give the game a try. Being able to open shortcuts (and gaining new items that you keep) sounds helpful so even if you die perhaps it's not all that bad.

Is level even that important? I thought I read somewhere that the difference between a level 1 and level 50 (or whatever) is a tiny bit of health but mostly it involves player skill.

 

[archnemesis]

Skill combined with knowledge about the levels and the enemies are way more important than gaining a few extra levels. You don't need to spend any time grinding unless you want the platinum trophy. That being said, there's a huge difference between level 50 and 1. For instance, you'll probably need to increase your stats if you want to wield heavier weapons or use magic.

 

[Minamu]

Is level even that important? I thought I read somewhere that the difference between a level 1 and level 50 (or whatever) is a tiny bit of health but mostly it involves player skill.

That depends entirely on how those 50 soul levels have been allocated. However, yes, player skill is usually more important in the equation.



Check out this crazy souls glitch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS2Tdu1Jvlw

 

[Yoshichan]

So I'm doing a completely naked, soul level 1-run and I'm on 1-2 boss... any tips .______.?

Edit: If I get behind him, archers gets me. If I run for the archers, I die. Even IF I manage to get up the stairs, killing the archers is a real pain. And then there's the actual boss after that...

 

[TheThunder]

Put some fucking armor and get a sword wtf !!!

 

[Johnas]

Seriously, I wasn't bragging and it took me a number of tries before I beat him but apparently it didn't give me as much trouble as some people in this thread.

On I'd say my tenth attempt, I killed one and had the second one almost dead, then I got knocked off the edge. I was infuriated. I bet I fought him about thirty more times before I finally killed him.

The only magic I have is the heal spell I started with, so I don't know what Second Chance or Warding is. I'll experiment more with magic on a subsequent playthrough. I will say that the rest of the bosses I've fought since Maneater have been disappointingly easy. My SL is in the high 50s at the moment, I'm not sure if that would be considered overleveled for the endgame. I have the bosses of 5-2 and 5-3 left, as well as whatever else awaits me in 1-4 and beyond.

 

[evala]

So I'm doing a completely naked, soul level 1-run and I'm on 1-2 boss... any tips .______.?

Edit: If I get behind him, archers gets me. If I run for the archers, I die. Even IF I manage to get up the stairs, killing the archers is a real pain. And then there's the actual boss after that...

Get a spear, you will be able to hide behind the carousel to the right and kill the three archers before the first blue eyed knight, then easily kill him with the spear, the same goes for the next one. But for the boss i suppose an axe or other wide wielding weapon will be better. I died a lot of times at that point - this and the maneaters have been up until now (world 5 and 1-4 left only) been the hardest parts in the game for me.

 

[RustyNails]

So I'm doing a completely naked, soul level 1-run and I'm on 1-2 boss... any tips .______.?

Edit: If I get behind him, archers gets me. If I run for the archers, I die. Even IF I manage to get up the stairs, killing the archers is a real pain. And then there's the actual boss after that...

There's a guy on youtube who did a No upgrade run in demon's souls.

 

[Ristlager]

Just ordered this game from VGP.CA, any starting tips for a newbie? After reading this thread, it seems like its a very complicated game. In my head it looks like it shares a lot with Monster Hunter, is that correct?

 

[RustyNails]

Just ordered this game from VGP.CA, any starting tips for a newbie? After reading this thread, it seems like its a very complicated game. In my head it looks like it shares a lot with Monster Hunter, is that correct?

Go with Barbarian

jk. Barbarian is the toughest class to master in Demon's Souls. Only class that starts out without any armor or shield. And its the class I chose for my first ever character, and loved every bit of it.

Remember the one rule in Demon's Souls and you should be fine for 99% of the game: Don't be a hero. Whatever you plan to do, go over it. Go over it again. Don't jump ass-first into fights (sneak attacks are powerful). Be careful.

This game is tough. Be prepared to die a lot. You will learn from each of those deaths. And you will keep coming back for more! In this game, dying is not end of the game. Its end of your attempt. You won't get into the game's groove until 5 or 6 hours in, so don't throw the controller away after you die for the nth time in the first couple of hours. Also, make sure you pick up Cling Ring in 1-1, which is located near the gate of the tower on left (you will know where to find it).

 

[Slavik81]

Is level even that important? I thought I read somewhere that the difference between a level 1 and level 50 (or whatever) is a tiny bit of health but mostly it involves player skill.

A tiny bit of health, but a tonne of armour. When my end-game character went back to level 1, the enemies there could barely do damage to him.

And a lot more stamina, so you can block and attack much more effectively. And doing a lot more damage also helps.

Soul levels are very, very useful, even if you can do nearly anything without leveling up much if you're skilled enough.

 

[yamo]

Had almost a one year break from this game but starting to get back into it. I've completed 1-1, 1-2, 2-1 and 3-1, remember that I got owned by Flamelurker on 2-2 last time around.

Any hints where to go next, should I try a new level or is Flamelurker the easiest boss to aim for at the moment?

 

[MvmntInGrn]

Had almost a one year break from this game but starting to get back into it. I've completed 1-1, 1-2, 2-1 and 3-1, remember that I got owned by Flamelurker on 2-2 last time around.

Any hints where to go next, should I try a new level or is Flamelurker the easiest boss to aim for at the moment?

4-1 boss and level would be easier than the Flamelurker I think (4-1 boss is easy, level isn't too bad once you get used to fighting the skeletons). 5-1 is an annoying level to some, getting to the boss is harder than beating the boss for most.

I'd go for 4-1, if you haven't played for awhile Flamelurker may make you rage quit :lol

 

[Ristlager]

Go with Barbarian

jk. Barbarian is the toughest class to master in Demon's Souls. Only class that starts out without any armor or shield. And its the class I chose for my first ever character, and loved every bit of it.

Remember the one rule in Demon's Souls and you should be fine for 99% of the game: Don't be a hero. Whatever you plan to do, go over it. Go over it again. Don't jump ass-first into fights (sneak attacks are powerful). Be careful.

This game is tough. Be prepared to die a lot. You will learn from each of those deaths. And you will keep coming back for more! In this game, dying is not end of the game. Its end of your attempt. You won't get into the game's groove until 5 or 6 hours in, so don't throw the controller away after you die for the nth time in the first couple of hours. Also, make sure you pick up Cling Ring in 1-1, which is located near the gate of the tower on left (you will know where to find it).

Great, thanks. Will look for the ring. But is there any reason to choose the Barbarian? Do they become better after you get a while? I generally like being a Barbarian in games like this.

 

[neorej]

Pre-ordered. Gonna start out as a Hunter, and take it from there.

 

[Hawkian]

Great, thanks. Will look for the ring. But is there any reason to choose the Barbarian? Do they become better after you get a while? I generally like being a Barbarian in games like this.

The classes affect nothing beyond your starting stats and eq. You really can play your chatacter however you want.

A barbarian like character who can use huge hammers and such can be very effective.

 

[Minamu]

There's a guy on youtube who did a No upgrade run in demon's souls.

Link?

Frankly, I hope they change the class system for DS2. As it is now, it's probably the most asked question here because it's so damn confusing to beginners & the stats difference between a lvl 1 Royal & lvl 10 X is so small it's practically pointless. Starting equipment & spells are the only real differences that can truly change the first couple of hours of playing, making 10 classes more confusing than it needs to be. And considering that anyone can have any stats combinations & can use any items, it feels to me like classes barely serve a purpose at all. I got the Royal recommended to me for two reasons, soul arrow & the ability to shape my character from scratch, & that kinda tells me that there's something fundamentally flawed with the class system in general. Maybe it's just me