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Demon's Souls Remake is sorely dissapointing in the art direction

bundylove

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You're probably a fine poster overall considering you have an al bundy avatar but stop the nonsense :messenger_grinning_sweat:
i guess its too late to undo the report...
After all you are such an intelligent person that you resort to childish bro f u bro ....
Grow up
 
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MMaRsu

Member
i guess its too late to undo the report...
After all you are such an intelligent person that you resort to childish bro f u bro ....
Grow up

Yet you called another user pussy earlier in this thread so Im not sure why you're on such a high horse here 🤣

Pot calling the kettle black is what they call that
 
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bundylove

Member
Yet you called another user pussy earlier in this thread so Im not sure why you're on such a high horse here 🤣
Maybe practice your english a bit more.

There is a huge difference calling someone a pussy for telling me he will put me on ignore and you telling me to fuck off.

Buddy you are weak sauce period.
 

MMaRsu

Member
Maybe practice your english a bit more.

There is a huge difference calling someone a pussy for telling me he will put me on ignore and you telling me to fuck off.

Buddy you are weak sauce period.
Eh you're not worth the effort. What a clown

Another user for the ignore list 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
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I agree on Tower of Latria, I was scared as shit every step of the way in the original.
The remake it felt sanitized. I never noticed how the remakes lacks the echoey sound to all the sound effects in Latria before that video comparison

But overall the Remake is awesome
 
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Nickolaidas

Member
Me looking at OP pedantic comparison while I got served FF7 remake as the FF7 OG replacement.
Consider yourself lucky.
See FF7 Remake / Rebirth what what they are: Requels.

If you want an FF7 Remaster, buy FF7 on Steam and mod the fuck out of it. You get full VA for the whole game, 4K upscaled backgrounds, 60fps for combat and exploration, updated textures for all characters (chibi or FF8-sized), modern controls, etc.

The community basically made a full-on remaster for the game, to the point of looking like an AA remake.
 
They really gutted the atmosphere in some key locations like the Nexus and Latria 1. And the soundtrack is a step down across the board.
 
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Krathoon

Member
Still, the servers are down for the original Demon Souls.

Are there any fan servers out there? I don't really know how to set that up.

It is easier to just play the remake.
 

hyperbertha

Member
Agree. The new enemy designs are trash. Original looked like a proper highly skilled art team did it. The new one looks amateur level. Plus the colors are bad as well. Too much saturation
 

Alexios

Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Still, the servers are down for the original Demon Souls.

Are there any fan servers out there? I don't really know how to set that up.

It is easier to just play the remake.
Play on PC (and wherever else RPCS3 runs good, apparently it's semi workable on a raspberry pi 5 so I imagine other not quite as low power devices can handle it fine, whenever it is available for them).
Love me some DS but it was clearly a prototype to things they later improved with some really dodgy tech, designs and graphics showing it was a mish mash of scrapped assets Miyazaki salvaged into a solid game, I wouldn't claim everything is perfect (or even intentionally as it should have been). If you want it 1:1 play the original (or improved in PCSX3 with high res & fps, restored online, etc.), worrying about menu sounds, lol. Some designs are lesser, for others it's pretty subjective and for most it's just bs really. Play From games if all you want is 100% their take on it. Also what year is this...


 
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RayHell

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See FF7 Remake / Rebirth what what they are: Requels.

If you want an FF7 Remaster, buy FF7 on Steam and mod the fuck out of it. You get full VA for the whole game, 4K upscaled backgrounds, 60fps for combat and exploration, updated textures for all characters (chibi or FF8-sized), modern controls, etc.

The community basically made a full-on remaster for the game, to the point of looking like an AA remake.
I'm tired of this argument. Don't you think I tried that already. Nobody wished for a janky assets upscale.
I'm all for 3D environments, cinematic cutscenes, voice acting and remade assets.
The real issue lie in the whole story change and it's the different genre and completely change the iconic materia system.
It's like if they changed Demon Soul to make is a hack and slash and changes half the story and bosses, and put the weapon system of breath of the wild.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
As soon as Demon's Souls was confirmed as a PS5 release game I preordered both a PS5 and Demon's Souls. I enjoyed the game A LOT, later, I discovered that there were people that didn't like remake's direction, music, gameplay, some change here or there. My reaction was:

Vine Wtf GIF



And I moved on.
Same. We get these threads almost once a year. Same people as well.

I thought it was fantastic. As I did the original.
 
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Krathoon

Member
You gotta realize that the remake was made by a different team. So, things change.

You get the same thing with Shadow of the Collosus.

I still think there is enough there to still call it Demon Souls.
 

digdug2

Member
You gotta realize that the remake was made by a different team. So, things change.

You get the same thing with Shadow of the Collosus.

I still think there is enough there to still call it Demon Souls.
Or... you could call it Demon's Souls. Kind of like the original. Pedantic on my part? Perhaps. But at least call it the correct name.
 

Perrott

Member
The look of the original Demon's Souls was the result, not of unparalleled creative intent, but of From's limitations and lack of talent due to being a C-tier studio at the time, working on a game that Sony had no faith in, under the tutelage (or lack threof) of their most mismanaged developer and on the alien PS3 architecture.

You know what PS3 game from the very same year actually has a meticulously crafted and distinct atmosphere that is not the result of the drawbacks of a shit engine made by terminally mediocre programmers and engineers? Killzone 2.
 

Nickolaidas

Member
I'm tired of this argument. Don't you think I tried that already. Nobody wished for a janky assets upscale.
I'm all for 3D environments, cinematic cutscenes, voice acting and remade assets.
The real issue lie in the whole story change and it's the different genre and completely change the iconic materia system.
It's like if they changed Demon Soul to make is a hack and slash and changes half the story and bosses, and put the weapon system of breath of the wild.
Developers simply cannot win the remake debates.

You have Dead Space Remake which is almost a 1:1 faithful remake with a few extra bits and pieces here and there. Quite a few players were complaining because it was 'too similar' in terms of gameplay, story and graphics, to the point it felt unnecessary.

You have FF7 types of remakes which is a different take on the classic game, faithful to some elements, doing its own thing in others, a re-imagining. Quite a few players complained because it was 'too different' compared to the original, in terms of story and gameplay.

Honestly, sometimes I think the whole reason that RE1 remake 'made it' was the fact that it was created in a time period were the controls were still the same so Capcom didn't need to change the control scheme and the gameplay, just the graphics and the cutscenes. It was made in the perfect time to be appreciated by the community.
 

poodaddy

Member
This is the problem with remasters and remakes. They'll never make everyone happy. Straightforward upgrades like Soul Reaver disappoint people. Comprehensive remakes that keep the gameplay totally and 100% intact like this disappoint people. Comprehensive remakes that change gameplay like Resident Evil 2 disappoint people.

These things are like translations in books. They are essentially a new work and a collaboration between the original people and the new ones. It just is w hat it is. You cannot go into it expecting the exact same thing as the original, and even if it was the exact same thing as the original, you're not the same person who experienced it originally. It's just the nature of the beast. You have to look at it as a companion piece to the original not a replacement.
This is why I think all remakes should include the original in the package. I think it's fine that everyone has different takes on what makes a good game and where the remakes rank among the original, but inevitably this will lead to a perception of competition between the versions. If the original is included with the remake, then it removes a lot of the point for the more heated discussions on comparing the two, and the remake becomes more of a novelty, the alternative take, rather than the improved one, if that makes any sense. I love Demon's Souls; I love everything about it. The Remake is better to "play", while the original is better to "experience". If both versions were available in one package, then the whole concept of the "superior" version kind of just becomes moot and the discussions become much more interesting and nuanced, and less focused on competition and more focused on comparison. Such is why I love it when remasters include the option to switch to the old graphics with a click of a button, or old audio as well, as some people are simply always going to prefer that version, and that's totally fine, so give them both options in the package so nothing is truly lost.
 
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