Yeah that happened to me to, is it because Astrea is dead? She was actually my last boss before 1-4, so I thought the music meant that it was almost all over for the king.
brandonh83 said:
1. Strategies against the 4-2 boss. I need them. My class is Royalty, focus on magic, I have an upgraded compound long bow but it basically says I'm not good enough when I equip it. I know that the fucker is blind and it's best to attack with range but apart from that I'm pretty clueless and intimidated.
Put on the Thief Ring. The key is to WALK, never run for this fight. What you want to do is: 1) Hit him with a strong ranged attack, Soul Ray or Homing Soul Arrow. 2) WAIT for him to roar. 3) As soon as he is done yelling, it is safe to WALK anywhere else. Stay at max range to him. If you only ever walk, he will just flail around blindly and never know where you are.
brandonh83 said:
2. Upgrading. I've been saving upgrade materials and have several "pure" items. At this point, and considering my class and style, what should I be doing as far as gathering new equipment, upgrading stuff, etc.? I've saved all the Demon's Souls, haven't spent a one. The only place I've seen that I can upgrading using those souls is from the miracle guy but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to use the boss souls there or not.
I didn't find I needed them for weapons as a caster, so trade them for spells. The only one I really traded in was for Firestorm, though Homing Soul Arrow and Fireball are great as well. I didn't do really any miracles, having only 12 faith to get Evacuate. My normal spells were: Soul Ray, Warding, Firestorm, though if fighting fire enemies I switched out Firestorm and took in Soul Arrow and Water Shield. For my caster I never really found anything better than the Venerable Sage set. I pretty much always used Kris + Ring of Magical Sharpness as well. I never did get any colourless demon souls, so I never upgraded my Kris at all.
Wow good stuff. How do you get the Soul Ray or Homing Soul Arrow?
Honestly I think getting through the level is probably harder than the boss itself, it's just that the idea of having to go through it again if you die makes it more intense. However it does sound pretty easy based on those tactics.
edit: ohh shit, I haven't rescued Freke yet.
edit 2: YES I DID but he's not selling those spells
sounds like I need the fire spell for those -FUCKING- phantoms in 4-2. those bastards are the only reason I have a hard time getting through it. otherwise its a cakewalk.
I picked this up yesterday with my PS3 (first time owner )
Took me nearly 3 hours to get passed 1-1 but so far I am absolutely loving it.
I'm going through with Royalty class right now.
Would it be worth my time to upgrade the Scimitar and Heat Shield or should I go with what I have and look for better weapons?
Also, would it be a good idea to run through these Acts in any specific order??
I picked this up yesterday with my PS3 (first time owner )
Took me nearly 3 hours to get passed 1-1 but so far I am absolutely loving it.
I'm going through with Royalty class right now.
Would it be worth my time to upgrade the Scimitar and Heat Shield or should I go with what I have and look for better weapons?
Also, would it be a good idea to run through these Acts in any specific order??
I was wrong, I hadn't freed Freke yet, got him mixed up with another asshat. Anyway I can't find him. At least, he's not where he should be. I found the extension of the prison where he should be but all the cells are empty and I know I didn't kill him.
Did a mix of Blue Phantom helping and BP invading today, I never realized how lucrative farming souls as a Blue Phantom is, got 100k souls in probably 30 minutes by helping people beat 1-3.
Holy crap I didn't realize how tough NG+ is the first time. The fat officials I'm killing in 2-1 are as tough as the ones at the end of 4-1 from the regular game. :/ And that spider kept whooping me, my ranged and magic attacks were doing crap damage. I could easily level up since I'm only SL26, but I really wanted to do NG at a low level.
On a side note, beating the False King the legit way was so satisfying. That fight took me a handful of tries, but was awesome to accomplish.
I was wrong, I hadn't freed Freke yet, got him mixed up with another asshat. Anyway I can't find him. At least, he's not where he should be. I found the extension of the prison where he should be but all the cells are empty and I know I didn't kill him.
I put this game in for the first time in months, boy is this not the game to try and figure out the controls again by picking up where you left off.
I'd stopped on 1-3 because I get to a bit where 2 BP Fat Guys (I forget their actual names) sandwich you in. I managed to squeeze past the one in front but then got greedy and he hit me with a fireball while I was still in my casting animation. On the next try I couldn't get past and got caught in there pincer attack.
However I did beat 3-3 (so that's world 2 and 3 done) and got the homing missile spell, so I think that might be the key to making this work.
I picked this up yesterday with my PS3 (first time owner )
Took me nearly 3 hours to get passed 1-1 but so far I am absolutely loving it.
I'm going through with Royalty class right now.
Would it be worth my time to upgrade the Scimitar and Heat Shield or should I go with what I have and look for better weapons?
Also, would it be a good idea to run through these Acts in any specific order??
Magic users best go to 3-1 right after 1-1 to free sage freke
(gives new spells like soul ray which keeps going through multiple enemies and other fire spells) His helper gives the same once he is saved but not until. Also this level gives you a tonne of spice. wear thief ring, watch the floor for holes and never show your face to the medusas (backstab)... and you will never die.....well watch out for the AI phantom which shoots crossbow...close range she will kill you if you don't have a shield. She drops good stones and the black stone for invading. (unless you killed one in 2-1- first.)
the next most important step is to get a better weapon for melee...
for magic it is the crescent falchion early as it regenerates mana automatically and stacks with fragrant ring later....use fire magic or hire a blue to get rid of the dual katana guarding the falchion on 4-1. If it is too tough, give up and go to 2-2 for the dragon long sword which makes quick work of 4-1 skeletons.If 4-1 was not too tough for you, grab the compound long bow and other loot as it is great for various paths
Either way 2-1 and 2-2 are next anyway as all classes would best get the red hot demon's soul from flamelurker as soon as possible.
this enables you to upgrade special weapon from boss's souls like meat cleaver from 4-1, morian blade from 4-3 and blueblood from 5-3. Meat clever was the only way I could get through black phantoms scirvir, selen vinland, and satsuki, as a noob, and it is the only option for adjudicators soul anyway....upgrade a club for meat clever....uses no extra stones. While in world 2 get the spiderstones and put them on your compound longbow from 4-1....even magic users can use it when their magic is too short range
After that is up for grabs....blueblood users will want to get through 5-3 first, people needing souls and levels (and hyper-moders also 4-3) will do 4-2, but magic users (and everyone else for that matter) will want to get through 3-2 next for the ring of avarice and more importantly the
rune shield
. Simply wearing it on your back fully upgraded gives a huge 60 extra magic resistance points to be used in fights like maneater and false king. Kicks ass in pvp as magic users won't kill you as quick, makes the difference between being one shotted vs. having a chance to heal....HUGELY underratted item. I would do 3-2 first over 4-2 every time owing to that I use it vs. the rreapers henchmen who shoot magic rays at you on the ledges....blocks almost all magic, but with the magic damage resistance is superior to DSS, also DSS kills your magic attack.....DSS=overrated for that reason for magic users. You can get the item in question easier in 1-4 but that's too long to wait.
1-2 for
warding
from tower night's soul.
Magic users can decide if the defence is better than offence......I think it is....but if not,
firestorm awaits you
from Yuria the witch in 1-3. If you are someone who likes to kill things the easy way it makes quick death of most of the most serious enemies if used correctly including giants in 5-2, king allant 1-4, maneaters, etc. You will have to beat at least one third level boss first though, most do 2-3 dragon god as he gives you the soul for it. If you don't want to take up 3 magic slots then ignite is an option as well to burn many foes in one hit.
Another option for deadly magic is
homing soul arrow.
Can one hit adjuducator in NG ++ if done right. Can't remember for sure but I think you can get it from old monk 3-3 or old hero 4-2.
The final stages are up for grabs...... 4-3 first for souls is likely best.....the only people not saving world five for last usually are blueblood or high faith users looking for the Large sword of moonlight. Another group are the trolls who want to get poison cloud and death cloud. I always get the LSoM sword if my faith is high enough before doing 1-3 and 1-4 as it makes quick work of shielded enemies like the blue and red eye knights as well as the black phantom at the start of 1-4....even earlier if faith based for PVP. people looking for magic defence armour will try this world earlier as well, but soon realize the armour is too heavy, and the
rune shield
from 3-2 gives more magic defence for your money then the armour anyway.
then before finishing all bosses and going under for endgame you want to get your ffriends ring and foe ring for pvp. Friends ring is better first for white character, then foe for black as you have to kill a lot of helpful people in the nexus. I highly suggest doing these prior to endgame...ESPECIALLY mephistopholes as you can't just start killing people in the middle of a NG.
there you have it - best order for magic users.....but most won't deviate too far from this no matter the player type.
Patience. And probably a lot of water. 1-4 boss is probably going to be one of your most frustrating moments in your Demon's Souls career. Unless you've mastered the art of dodging attacks, this will become hell for you. I will be here for more in-depth help on your 10th or so attempt.
Either way 2-1 and 2-2 are next anyway as all classes would best get the red hot demon's soul from flamelurker as soon as possible.
this enables you to upgrade special weapon from boss's souls like meat cleaver from 4-1, morian blade from 4-3 and blueblood from 5-3. Meat clever was the only way I could get through black phantoms scirvir, selen vinland, and satsuki, as a noob, and it is the only option for adjudicators soul anyway....upgrade a club for meat clever....uses no extra stones. While in world 2 get the spiderstones and put them on your compound longbow from 4-1....even magic users can use it when their magic is too short range
Haha, by timing your run perfectly, you can run through him without getting caught by the fire. Biorr is a
good soldier that you should've saved by now (iirc the key to open his prison-door is called the Bloody Key and you get it by killing the fat ministers in 1-3. When you do, backtrack to where you killed Tower Knight. There should be a locked door leading to a basement, this is where you use the key). He would've been there and helped you with the 1-3 boss.
Haha, by timing your run perfectly, you can run through him without getting caught by the fire. Biorr is a good soldier that you should've saved by now (iirc the key to open his prison-door is called Bloody Key). He would've been there and helped you with the 1-3 boss.
If you killed the fat men in 1-3 you got the bloody key. Go back to just before the boss entrance of 1-2 and there's a locked door. Go down there to find Biorr.
I edited my post with some more information. There's actually no need in saving him right now because he can't help you with 1-4. He'll just stand there and eat the flames for a good 3-4 minutes.
Stay on the right side of the stairway. The dragon will start on the left side then go to the right. Soon as the dragon starts moving that flame away from the right side, run up the stairs and you should easily dodge the flame. Then get inside the doorway and you can lock on and kill him with whatever means you have. Trust me, you'll definitely want to kill him too since the 1-4 boss will probably take you a handful of tries to beat.
As was said, Biorr really does nothing for the fight.
You should have gotten the Iron Ring of Keys from a fat official in 1-3. Go back to 1-2, just before Tower Knight's area there is a locked door. Use the key, go down and free him. If you kill the Fat official there you get the bloody key. This allows you to open a gate at the start of 1-3 and go rescue Yuria the witch. But you'll need to disguise yourself as a fat official with an item you should have gotten in 1-3...
He's not much use against the blue dragon but he does help with the Penetrator fight.
To take out the dragon I recommend using soul ray in hyper mode. Equip the clever rat's ring and drop off the stairway before the dragon a few times to get your health below 30%. This works even better if you have the morion blade too so you'll do 110% more damage in total. The second part of the blue dragon fight is the hard part as you'll need to get under him to lock on.
I got back into this game because of Dark Souls hype and an empty wallet. I never got very far before. Rolled a soldier, beat 1-1 and 1-2, summoned a blue phantom who escorted me through 2-1, then beat 4-1 this evening (skipping the tutorial boss).
Really enjoying it more than the first time, the tips I got of being Soldier, taking Evacuate early on, really helped.
Now that I'm on 4-2, I have to ask: is the reason everyone says farming is easy because you can start, arrow the death-looking guy and net 5k souls in ~1min? Because I am loving it.
Also, question: I heard you shouldn't upgrade weapons past level 3. Why is this? And is "level 3" +2 or +3, because I want to upgrade my compound long.
Another question: I got some enchanted sword that has like 210 attack, which is WAY higher than anything else I have. But it says it has a curse? What is the deal?
edit: Looks like it's Magic Sword Makoto, which I can use if I wear the Regenerator Ring (explains why I didn't notice the drain)
Also, question: I heard you shouldn't upgrade weapons past level 3. Why is this? And is "level 3" +2 or +3, because I want to upgrade my compound long.
I guess it's because the some of the specialized upgrade paths become available at +3 but depending on the weapon and upgrade path they can also start at +0 or +6 so that doesn't really make sense. Once you upgrade your compound long bow to +3 you'll be able to turn it into a Quality bow using clearstone or a sticky bow using spiderstone, or just continue on down the basic upgrade path. If you're keeping dex and str low or favouring strength stick with the basic path. If dex and str are equal and in the high teens and upwards go quality. If dex is high then go sticky. (Don't just think in terms of what your stats are now but what you're building your character into)
I guess it's because the some of the specialized upgrade paths become available at +3 but depending on the weapon and upgrade path they can also start at +0 or +6 so that doesn't really make sense. Once you upgrade your compound long bow to +3 you'll be able to turn it into a Quality bow using clearstone or a sticky bow using spiderstone, or just continue on down the basic upgrade path. If you're keeping dex and str low or favouring strength stick with the basic path. If dex and str are equal and in the high teens and upwards go quality. If dex is high then go sticky. (Don't just think in terms of what your stats are now but what you're building your character into)
Can't seem to actually hit the blue dragon, are you supposed to attack when it's hanging on the side of the castle at the stairs? Because I got there and still couldn't hit it. All the advice I'm reading online goes right back to "fire arrows" but I'm both ill-equipped and stat-deficient for that.
Can't seem to actually hit the blue dragon, are you supposed to attack when it's hanging on the side of the castle at the stairs? Because I got there and still couldn't hit it. All the advice I'm reading online goes right back to "fire arrows" but I'm both ill-equipped and stat-deficient for that.
Ok yeah my attacks were doing jack and shit to it. Definitely don't have the number of arrows it would take, the stats to make that even be effective if I did, and I'd run out of magic long before it would die.
Ok yeah my attacks were doing jack and shit to it. Definitely don't have the number of arrows it would take, the stats to make that even be effective if I did, and I'd run out of magic long before it would die.
Bring spices? Did you try the clever rat's ring strategy I mentioned? You'll also want to have the ring of magical sharpness, kris blade and monk's head collar equipped to do as much damage with your magic as possible.
Bring spices? Did you try the clever rat's ring strategy I mentioned? You'll also want to have the ring of magical sharpness, kris blade and monk's head collar equipped to do as much damage with your magic as possible.
Get as many poison kurais (sp?) from the vendor in 4-2 at the beginning. Kills the dragon fast. After hitting him with about 10 or so watch the damage start to increase due to the poison stacking, rinse and repeat.
Get as many poison kurais (sp?) from the vendor in 4-2 at the beginning. Kills the dragon fast. After hitting him with about 10 or so watch the damage start to increase due to the poison stacking, rinse and repeat.
I really want the lava bow and am kicking myself for using the Hard soul from the spider for a spell. Oh well. I will eventually go for all the trophies... how does new game plus work, would I be able to carry my stats and items over and then reacquire the boss souls again?
I know this is a noob question but I honestly don't know as I am still new to the game and have foolishly read nothing in an attempt to make the game interesting.
That being said.
What are all the white ghost like people running around?
Are they... Other players actively playing or just pre-recorded ghosts of other players?
One time I swear it almost seemed like they were fighting the same guy at the same time I was fighting.
I know this is a noob question but I honestly don't know as I am still new to the game and have foolishly read nothing in an attempt to make the game interesting.
That being said.
What are all the white ghost like people running around?
Are they... Other players actively playing or just pre-recorded ghosts of other players?
One time I swear it almost seemed like they were fighting the same guy at the same time I was fighting.
I just bought it and it costs SO much MP to use once, I don't see the point, just use Soul Ray... unless it's useful for a boss?
What's the best place to farm souls? I need to go up a few levels methinks. I also need some new weapons, Scimitar +5 and Wooden Catalyst just won't cut it any longer, lol.
