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Demon's Souls |OT2| Soulsuckingly brilliant RPG full of Demon's Crack

Just started this up again after years of not playing it. It's still legit, aged really well. Having some SoulsBorne experience under my belt is helping a bit too.
 
Finally over ....

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Why did I put myself through this, so much grind and BS. Only positive was seeing the variations of PBWT and PWWT (Seriously, if you keep dying in body form, things get severely worse, hard bastard skeletons on the 4-2 walkway !?), and also nailing down the levels and bosses, they pretty much became routine.

What a game though ..... quite funny seeing my first trophy being in 2012 :)
 
What's the best upgrade path for the Winged Spear? Thinking about making it a Mercury Winged Spear. Second playthrough has been fun though. Managed to do pretty well in 4-1, took out that black skeleton on my first try and have the Crescent Falchion +1 beat the Armor Spider, Winged Spear makes some of the stuff in Stonefang a breeze. I don't want to fight Flamelurker next though.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
Bladestone/Sharp upgrade path on a dex build, Moon on a magic build, or Clearstone/Quality on a strength/dex build. Mercury upgrades are all worthless, don't bother.
 
Bladestone/Sharp upgrade path on a dex build, Moon on a magic build, or Clearstone/Quality on a strength/dex build. Mercury upgrades are all worthless, don't bother.
I guess since I have 22 str so I can use the Purple Flame Shield I should go the quality path then cause it'll be a while before my dex eclipses it a 17. Damn and they made Mercury sound good with the poisoning. I guess it's something From really doesn't put much attention towards.
 
Finally over ....

dsplatrgqk0.png


Why did I put myself through this, so much grind and BS. Only positive was seeing the variations of PBWT and PWWT (Seriously, if you keep dying in body form, things get severely worse, hard bastard skeletons on the 4-2 walkway !?), and also nailing down the levels and bosses, they pretty much became routine.

What a game though ..... quite funny seeing my first trophy being in 2012 :)
Congrats Ogs :)
 
No way, it's one of the best 'gimmick bosses' in the series. It's not challenging but the atmosphere is cool.
I was fine with it after I figured out using my shield was the best way to break the obstacles, I was pretty much just frustration venting. Interesting battle, cool design and less time intensive than Micolash.
 
Finally over ....

dsplatrgqk0.png


Why did I put myself through this, so much grind and BS. Only positive was seeing the variations of PBWT and PWWT (Seriously, if you keep dying in body form, things get severely worse, hard bastard skeletons on the 4-2 walkway !?), and also nailing down the levels and bosses, they pretty much became routine.

What a game though ..... quite funny seeing my first trophy being in 2012 :)

Yo congrats!!! Totally worth it. Some of the PBWT/PWWT events were pretty cool no? I especially liked finding the Spear high above in the Valley of Defilement. Killing those three Giant Depraved ones was a challenge in itself.

Now go and platinum DARK SOULS 1!!!
 
So far I've beaten 1-1, 1-2, all of two, 3-1 and now 4-1. I think I'm now at the hard areas of the game. I took a crack at 5-1, but holy fuck that place is a mess, got killed by some giant think with a sword or something. I got pretty far in 1-3, but got killed by a red knight horde after rescuing bitch ass Ostrava, which means I have to rescue him again I guess unless he's now dead.
 
So far I've beaten 1-1, 1-2, all of two, 3-1 and now 4-1. I think I'm now at the hard areas of the game. I took a crack at 5-1, but holy fuck that place is a mess, got killed by some giant think with a sword or something. I got pretty far in 1-3, but got killed by a red knight horde after rescuing bitch ass Ostrava, which means I have to rescue him again I guess unless he's now dead.

With a club.

A giant club :)
 
With a club.

A giant club :)
Well that makes sense that area is too primitive for sophisticated weaponry like swords. That place is the Blight Town before they thought of Blight Town, I'm not sure which has more fucked up atmosphere. I heard dragon weaponry does good in there so I guess I should upgrade the Dragon Long Sword. That place might be good for my first character when I use her again, she has a DLS +3 and Flame Toss and a Lava Bow.
 
You might not have to rescue Ostrava again if you lifted the gate, although I would make a beeline to the little cubbyhole where he tends to be if things go south after that quest, left at the end of the stairs after said gate. IIRC he gives you something pretty decent (a pure something?) so it's worth completing his questline.
 
You might not have to rescue Ostrava again if you lifted the gate, although I would make a beeline to the little cubbyhole where he tends to be if things go south after that quest, left at the end of the stairs after said gate. IIRC he gives you something pretty decent (a pure something?) so it's worth completing his questline.
I actually need that to +5 my Quality Winged Spear. Still have to fight that Red Knight horde though. So many enemies in 1-3, but a +3 Quality Claymore fucks them up pretty well. I wasn't expecting the same enemies to get such a stat increase though.
 
Whelp so I went back to go rescue Ostrava and I find him getting ganked in that corner. I attack them, wind up hitting him and he disappeared, didn't even find his body, fucking useless idiot. Just took down Penetrator with Biorr's assistance.
 
Friendly fire in those situations is one thing that's always peeved me about the series. See also Eileen vs Henryk.
Nobody told that dumbass to turtle in that corner and get ganked like he's a prison snitch. On another note Latria part two must have the thickest atmosphere in the series. Even had the first version of the Brain of Mensis sort of.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
Whelp so I went back to go rescue Ostrava and I find him getting ganked in that corner. I attack them, wind up hitting him and he disappeared, didn't even find his body, fucking useless idiot. Just took down Penetrator with Biorr's assistance.

I've still only ever successfully saved him twice out of like seven plays.
 
I've still only ever successfully saved him twice out of like seven plays.
Oh jesus. Dude has no sense of self preservation. I needed that pure clearstone too. I'm running around as a melee build fast rolling wearing wizards clothes and this guy in all that armor is just strutting around getting the shit kicked out of him, absolutely disgusting. "Thanks for saving me bruh, but I'm just going to sit here and get ganked."
 

PillarEN

Member
Hey guys. No moaning or complaining this time about being helpless.

I've beaten the game! Hooray. Ending credits music is gorgeous and I've been listening to it all week. As for the game it hit me at the end that while I felt like a complete loser during my playthrough I actually gained lots of experience and looking back at when I couldn't kill a blue eyed knight or heaven forbid the red eye knight, that was a loooong time ago and now I charge at those enemies without any fear. My feeling of incompetence isn't misplaced though. There is plenty that I missed during this first playthrough and many enemies (dragons in Boletaria) which I did not attempt to kill. Certain play styles which I fully ignored (miracles) and I have not run into several NPCs which I probabvly should have. But that's alright. My journey was truly mine and what happened was meant to happen. I didn't attempt to look at guides unless I felt completely stuck or when it came to understanding stats and leveling up weapons. For the time being I'm putting Demon's Souls away but will return to it for NG+ as I'd like to test myself with the things I left out and actually care about world tendency.

In the end my feelings for the game could be summed up as frustration, perseverance, curiosity, and wonder. Almost never do you feel like you've actually truly accomplished something in games like in Demon's Souls. You get knocked down and think "how will I ever beat this enemy/area". Eventually though you do conquer it and it isn't just by dumb luck (though it could happen on the rare occasion) but through skill and learning. That sense of accomplishment is likely what kept me going besides being interested in investigating this universe.

"Soul of the lost, withdrawn from its vessel. Let strength be granted so the world might be mended, so the world might be mended."

And in my playthrough, it was.
 
Selen Vinlands top armor, three cornered witch hat, silver bracelets and the black leather boots is a pretty cool looking combo. 5-1 was easy, but 5-2 is long and dangerous with that god dang epic long poisonous swamp that you can't roll in. Leechmonger was an oddly easy boss. For some odd reason you can roll through that place pretty fast with a magic weapon, I one shotted like everything in there with a +4 Moon Winged Spear and the lava bow made everything trivial. I managed to find a slug with Selen's armor and grabbed it off that. I wonder if I should take on the 5-2 boss with my +3 dragon long sword though instead of the spear.
Edit:
So I've killed 3 archdemons and now the Nexus music sounds like a funeral holy shit.
 
Well I'm almost done. Killed Storm Ruler and Astaea over the weekend and only really have 1-4 left to do. I haven't killed the red dragon cause I assumed the lava bow wouldn't really hurt him too much. Is there anything thing I should really try to do before I beat this and head onto NG+? I haven't killed Doran either cause I just left him alone after I got Demonbrandt. Should I kill him? I know it messes up the world tendency if I do.
 
Well I'm almost done. Killed Storm Ruler and Astaea over the weekend and only really have 1-4 left to do. I haven't killed the red dragon cause I assumed the lava bow wouldn't really hurt him too much. Is there anything thing I should really try to do before I beat this and head onto NG+? I haven't killed Doran either cause I just left him alone after I got Demonbrandt. Should I kill him? I know it messes up the world tendency if I do.
His armour is male only, but iirc he drops a stamina regen ring too, so it's worth killing him.

Take out the dragon with a regular bow or soul arrow, if you use stat-boosting stuff and clever rat's ring etc it's a relatively quick kill.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
Killing Doran does lower WT towards black, but if you have the Miralda armour you already did all the white world tendency events anyway, so you don't need white WT anymore. Killing Doran gives you his armour, which you can't equip as a female character (it looks ugly as sin anyway xD), and a decent ring (Eternal Warrior ring, speeds up stamina recovery somewhat but not as good as Chloranthy in Dark Souls, maybe about as good as Chloranthy in Dark Souls 2). Since most rings suck in Demon's Souls, Eternal Warrior is actually one of the better ones, at least for body form.

Plus it's a fun fight and quite challenging if you do him legit. :)

When you said in your PM about levelling up endurance, that's a good idea, because more stamina is good, but I wouldn't bother for wearing a full set of heavy armour. The extra defense isn't worth it, you can Fashion Souls with lighter pieces (at least for leggings and gloves), and heavier pieces reduce your stamina regeneration too.

Killing the red dragon is kind of useless. You get souls, and his boss soul is only consumed for more souls, not crafting or trading for spells, so it's kind of useless. It's tedious and boring too.

Before NG+, well, you can always do Mephistopheles's assassination quest, you can get Colorless souls from it so that's nice. If you have any world tendency events you can still do - probably just the black ones since you can just suicide in body form a few times - you can always do those. Craft anything you need from Blacksmith Ed, since you need to beat Flamelurker again in NG+ to unlock the boss weapons crafting. Um... hunt for any remaining crystal lizards, since they have limited respawns (they respawn once after killing a boss, IIRC). They give better drops in PBWT too.
I think that's about it for pre-NG+ preparation?
 
Killing Doran does lower WT towards black, but if you have the Miralda armour you already did all the white world tendency events anyway, so you don't need white WT anymore. Killing Doran gives you his armour, which you can't equip as a female character (it looks ugly as sin anyway xD), and a decent ring (Eternal Warrior ring, speeds up stamina recovery somewhat but not as good as Chloranthy in Dark Souls, maybe about as good as Chloranthy in Dark Souls 2). Since most rings suck in Demon's Souls, Eternal Warrior is actually one of the better ones, at least for body form.

Plus it's a fun fight and quite challenging if you do him legit. :)

When you said in your PM about levelling up endurance, that's a good idea, because more stamina is good, but I wouldn't bother for wearing a full set of heavy armour. The extra defense isn't worth it, you can Fashion Souls with lighter pieces (at least for leggings and gloves), and heavier pieces reduce your stamina regeneration too.

Killing the red dragon is kind of useless. You get souls, and his boss soul is only consumed for more souls, not crafting or trading for spells, so it's kind of useless. It's tedious and boring too.

Before NG+, well, you can always do Mephistopheles's assassination quest, you can get Colorless souls from it so that's nice. If you have any world tendency events you can still do - probably just the black ones since you can just suicide in body form a few times - you can always do those. Craft anything you need from Blacksmith Ed, since you need to beat Flamelurker again in NG+ to unlock the boss weapons crafting. Um... hunt for any remaining crystal lizards, since they have limited respawns (they respawn once after killing a boss, IIRC). They give better drops in PBWT too.
I think that's about it for pre-NG+ preparation?
How the hell do you even get Mephistopholes to show up? Yurt's dead as fuck so I needed him to be alive I'm screwed. I've honestly just been suiciding in the Nexus and running about in body form lately. Granted this is my first character when I didn't have a clue about body death effects on WT, but everything is still in pretty good shape it seems like so I'd probably have to die a lot to get each world into the blacks. Regarding the Doran fight I'd really have to switch to a non magic weapon since the moon spear was just chipping him and I go a good back stab or two with the first fight. I guess +4 Crushing Mirdan Hammer is going to have some end game uses damn, means I should put more into strength since it's at 25, but it hits less than my moon spear. Sounds like I should buy certain magics before I hit NG+ then. I haven't made a single boss weapon I think. Which ones are worth it? Regarding armor I don't mind Fashionsouls, I guess I just want more room to throw some stuff on and equip more weapons. I'm shocked at how razor thin my margin is. Witch hat, wizards gloves, black leather boots and Selens top is what I can get and keep fast roll, but if I throw certain weapons on I'm a bit screwed.
 
You have to have pure black character tendency and for Yurt to be dead to do Mephistopheles questline.

Killing a few of the NPC merchants should take you to PBCT - the merchants in Boletaria, Stonefang, Latria - those kind of NPCs, just buy anything you want first.
 
You have to have pure black character tendency and for Yurt to be dead to do Mephistopheles questline.

Killing a few of the NPC merchants should take you to PBCT - the merchants in Boletaria, Stonefang, Latria - those kind of NPCs, just buy anything you want first.
But I like some of those guys, especially singing Latria lady.
 
The other way to lower your CT is to invade people and kill them. Killing phantoms also counts towards lowering CT.

What SL are you, JW?
This character is somewhere in the low 70's.
Haha, I'm not sure how else to lower your tendency, and the NPCs in the Nexus are part of the questline itself.
But I like those guys too, especially Yuria. Granted I could get rid of Biorr and that other guy that sells spells and not really have it effect anything and that other groupie guy that don't sell shit.
 

Servbot #42

Unconfirmed Member
Platinuming this game was a nightmare. fuck those pure bleedstones and the chuncks from the flying monsters.

If anyone wants to platinum this baby in 2015 let me know, i have it all including those fucking bloodstone or whatever they are called. I also heard that i can give special weapons to people and they do count somehow even if you didn't earn them yourself.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
This character is somewhere in the low 70's.
But I like those guys too, especially Yuria. Granted I could get rid of Biorr and that other guy that sells spells and not really have it effect anything and that other groupie guy that don't sell shit.
Ok, you can probably manage to invade in 1-4 and 4-2 and maybe even 5-2, then. If you defeat another player (phantom or host) your CT will shift towards black.

But, murdering NPCs also works, since you're moving on to NG+ anyway? I know it feels bad but it depends on how much you want to do Mephistopheles's side quest. ;)

Keep in mind that Meph's side-quest actually asks you to assassinate some NPCs, so if you killed those specific NPCs already you won't get the reward. They won't matter much, but assassinating
Patches and Biorr
give you a
Colorless Demon Soul
and killing
Yuria
gives you the
Foe's Ring
, so if you do it, make sure you leave them alive for Mephistopheles to ask you to kill them. ;) The other rewards are not important (stones of Ephemeral Eyes and the Talisman of Beasts which you can obtain by defeating Black Phantom Scirvir in PBWT 2-2).
 
Ok, you can probably manage to invade in 1-4 and 4-2 and maybe even 5-2, then. If you defeat another player (phantom or host) your CT will shift towards black.

But, murdering NPCs also works, since you're moving on to NG+ anyway? I know it feels bad but it depends on how much you want to do Mephistopheles's side quest. ;)

Keep in mind that Meph's side-quest actually asks you to assassinate some NPCs, so if you killed those specific NPCs already you won't get the reward. They won't matter much, but assassinating
Patches and Biorr
give you a
Colorless Demon Soul
and killing
Yuria
gives you the
Foe's Ring
, so if you do it, make sure you leave them alive for Mephistopheles to ask you to kill them. ;) The other rewards are not important (stones of Ephemeral Eyes and the Talisman of Beasts which you can obtain by defeating Black Phantom Scirvir in PBWT 2-2).
I'd have to buy every useable spell from Yuria then. I'm sure I would need Biorr's help to deal with that blue dragon as well. Only people that I can think of to kill are Blige and the groupie in the Nexus.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
Biorr isn't of much help against the blue dragon. To kill it, you should stand directly below its head and lock-on, then spam projectiles of your choice (I recommend Soul Ray with tons of spice, magic-buffing items on, and clever rat ring, or a very good bow if your dex is decent). The dragon will stand still dumbly while you spam on it until it dies, but if Biorr is around it'll flail its head around trying to spew fire on him, and you'll lose a few opportunities, making it take longer to kill.
 
Biorr isn't of much help against the blue dragon. To kill it, you should stand directly below its head and lock-on, then spam projectiles of your choice (I recommend Soul Ray with tons of spice, magic-buffing items on, and clever rat ring, or a very good bow if your dex is decent). The dragon will stand still dumbly while you spam on it until it dies, but if Biorr is around it'll flail its head around trying to spew fire on him, and you'll lose a few opportunities, making it take longer to kill.
Well damn, guess he's only useful against Penetrator. Well I guess if I grind a bit I'll buy some of the stuff I need from a vendor or two and kill them off. I don't think the Boletarian Merchant is too useful and I hate trudging though Valley of Defilement so I don't want to bother dealing with the old hag there. Aren't the stonefang people really important though?
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
You don't want to kill Blacksmith Ed, lol. But you can always kill the vendor, he's not that important. The old hag in 5-2 should be easy to reach from the Dirty Colossus archstone.
 

Servbot #42

Unconfirmed Member
Hey guys does anyone have a character that is near 177? I need someone to soul suck my levels, it s for a gaffer that is missing a pure moonlighstone.

EDIT: The situation has resolved itself.
 

Fhtagn

Member
If anyone wants to platinum this baby in 2015 let me know, i have it all including those fucking bloodstone or whatever they are called. I also heard that i can give special weapons to people and they do count somehow even if you didn't earn them yourself.

What region? I have 95% trophies for USA because I never had a pure moonlight, dark moonlight not bladestone drop. I actually just set up a dupe glitch character specifically just to farm for those because having all the other trophies and not those is making me itchy.

On the EU version, I got all three (very lucky with the pure bladestone, it dropped in only a few tries from the earlier enemy that it's extra extra rare drop from) and I surprised my wife by yelling suddenly in excitement haha), and now have to redo all the other trophies... Which I don't really mind.
 

DarkFlame

Banned
Oh well,the one that started it all.Holds a special place in my heart,being my first experience with a Souls type game,was addicted to it to the limits of paranoia.


"May strength be granted so the world might be mended"
 

Tarkus

Member
Oh well,the one that started it all.Holds a special place in my heart,being my first experience with a Souls type game,was addicted to it to the limits of paranoia.


"May strength be granted so the world might be mended"
Yes. I'm about to do an in-depth playthrough to wring all the lore out of this one that I can. Have beaten it several times, but never really gave it its time like I have its cousins.
 

Akuun

Looking for meaning in GAF
Picked the game back up and finally finished up world 3. The 3-3 boss
was a guy who used a spear that destroyed my equipment. I had never seen that before so once my stuff started breaking I realized what was going on, but it was too late and I was doing like 15 damage on R1 attacks with no backup weapons on hand.

But since he had broken all my stuff I didn't want to just give up and let him win. I resorted to backstabs and ripostes, as those were the only things that did any damage. I almost killed him that way, but he kept healing back up and in the end he won.

Took over 10k souls to repair my shit back up. Motherfucker.

Beat the boss later as an NPC invader.
 
Just platinumed this for the second time (because I had a different PSN tag on my PS4 I wanted to have all the Souls games platinumed on one account along with Bloodborne). I think Demon's is the quickest to platinum if you're duping boss souls etc, or rather should be if you remember to do everything.

I had a plan and thought I'd stuck to it, somehow I used the Old Monk's soul before duping it so had to go through Latria in NG+ to get another, which wasn't so bad given you have to defeat at least one world to get Yuria and use the Maiden's Soul. Then I had forgot about the Istarelle and had to turn VoD back to PWWT to get it, then do Flamelurker to get access the blacksmith - I had duped the red hot soul but didn't have any in my inventory so thought the game made you kill Flamelurker again regardless, doh. Then I was wracking my brains as to why I didn't get the final achievement and I realised I didn't upgrade a weapon with regular hardstone! Basically, I just didn't plan it very well and did a lot of stuff from memory - but I had fun, it was nice to play through again it's been a while.

It took me about 45 minutes to get a pure bladestone which I was pretty happy with considering the length of time I've seen some people say it took - I made sure I duped that immediately!
 

Gaaraz

Member
Recommended build for a royal please guys? Just managed to take down the red dragon on 1-2 so have lots of souls to use.

I enjoy melee combat far more than magic so far, but magic seems to be a lot more powerful, so I was thinking of mostly putting points into strength and magic? Thanks!
 
Magic is powerful in this game Gaaraz, but it can also make it a bit boring if you aren't that in to just firing off spells, so you could always leave spells for now and check them out later and just concentrate on leveling up Vitality and Endurance which are good to level up early for any character.

Starting class is largely irrelevant since any class can go in any direction stat-wise, they all just start out with a little plus or minus in one or two stats. Best to find a weapon type you like and see what stats it scales with (all weapons get a damage bonus by scaling with stats like Strength and Dexterity) - this is the +(number) figure on the weapon's stat summary in your inventory.

Don't bother leveling up luck - other than very for specific builds (there is a weapon that scales with luck) it's pretty much useless. Basically don't level up anything you don't need - not using miracles? Don't level up faith and so on.

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/stats
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
If you have a royal, but prefer melee, make a "spellsword/battle mage" build.

How it works is that you don't level up Intelligence that much, just enough to memorize the few spells you do want, and pump Magic instead, as well as Endurance (for stamina, cap at 40 always) and Vitality (for HP, cap at 50 because of diminishing returns).

Then, you upgrade any melee weapon you want to +6, then visit Blacksmith Ed in 2-1 (Stonefang, down that elevator) and turn it into either a Moon weapon, or a Crescent weapon. This will make your weapon a) scale with your Magic stat, so the higher your Magic stat, the more damage you deal and b) deal a mix of physical and magical damage. A lot of enemies in the game are weak to magic, so that will be quite effective.

Crescent weapons are upgraded with Darkmoon shards. Moon weapons are upgraded with Moonlight shards. The difference between the two is that Crescent are a generally bit weaker, but have slow, passive MP regeneration. Moon weapons don't, but tend to be slightly stronger. It's up to you which you prefer. It can be frustrating to find a Pure stone to max out your weapon though, you need to farm crystal lizards in pure black world tendency (look it up on a wiki). It's a pain but worth it IMO. A magic/melee hybrid is insanely powerful in this game.

Also, not every weapon can be made "Crescent", sadly. Only "dex" type of weapons, such as rapiers, curved swords, war scythes, katanas, and spears. You can pick up a free Crescent Falchion in 4-1 early on, it's quite devastating early in the game.
Anything can be made Moon though, including more strength-oriented weapons such as claymores, great swords, great axes, and mirdan hammers.

For stats I would recommend never levelling up luck ever, avoid levelling up Faith unless you really want the Second Chance miracle (if so, cap at 16 faith), and level up STR and DEX only to reach the minimum requirements of the weapon(s) you want to use. Then focus on Magic, Endurance, and Vitality.

Oh, and if you decide that farming the moon/darkmoon stones is too much of a pain, and you'd rather deal pure physical damage anyway and use magic spells only as a backup, well, that's okay; you'll just need to invest more stats, either in dex or strength, and a bit less in magic, probably. You can make something like a +10 claymore (or crushing+5 claymore if you level up only strength) or whatever and buff it with Light Weapon to add magic damage, too.
 
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