They reset, but we got the exact same bounties as yesterday. I did them all twice and now I'm pretty much in the same boat. You can keep tempered going as long as you have motes thoughDo any Iron Banner bounties reset? I cleared them all, the 10k xp, 10 kill streak, and 10 Heavy head shots twice, but there's noting else. I need the extra rep!
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figadapaura
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Arc damage and Firefly makes Fatebringer even more appealing.
Can't fully upgrade it without it.
But I'm pretty sure that's base damage.
Right, I just meant was the damage being dealt getting any boosts from the perks.
Thank you for the information by the way.
First off, you already have one. TDYK is a fantastic weapon that will be a worthy companion in the Crucibe, and a maxed one can hold its own in Iron Banner no problem.
Second, Hawkmoon, The Last Word, and Thorn are completely different- moreso than any of the stuff you mentioned, you should pick the one that suits the way you want to play. Hawkmoon is phenomenally accurate with massive range and occasionally does crazy damage; it's much like The Devil You Know and simply better in every way. The Last Word is an absolute monster at close to midrange- anyone trying to close the distance on you will stand no chance, and its rate of fire will let you kill unsuspecting targets more quickly than any other hand cannon. Thorn has a lot of weaknesses out of the box and doesn't come into its own until you unlock the unique upgrade, at which point it supports a very unique playstyle from the DoT (though it's gimped in its current state since the patch). You can often walk away to safety after getting a few shots off, and get the kill. You can play very conservatively with it which suits the low mag, while its extreme range and impact mean you can go for killshots when you need to as well. The toughest of the three to use well but absolutely devastating in the right hands.
Of... course Hawkmoon does more damage, all exotics do more damage than legendaries, for the moment anyway.
NOW I WANT THIS EVEN MORE
EL CUCO
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It's so good!
Toejam2501
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Thank you.
Oh so I should generally disable explosive rounds on my Fatebringer?
figadapaura
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I do miss Firefly, but with chain of woe Hawkmoon has a pretty fast reload. Better range and stability too.
You're welcome.
I'm going to take some new people through their first raid tonight. 2 hunters, 1titan. I play warlock.
When you get to the jumping puzzle, which jump abilities are best for them and which platforms are best?
I usually jump from first to second to third then jump for the ledge. Can hunters and Titans make this?
When you get to the jumping puzzle, which jump abilities are best for them and which platforms are best?
I usually jump from first to second to third then jump for the ledge. Can hunters and Titans make this?
if they were interested in fairness then they'd either disable special exotic abilities or weaken the weapon in PVP to compensate for the special ability. Or even better, a playlist with standardized gear and abilities.
I'd say as a 'have-not' the biggest offenders I run into are suros regime and hawkmoon, to the point where I just roll my eyes when I get killed by them. Fusion rifles, I dunno in regular crucible I think I'd rather have something with fast charge and good range than a weird gimmick.
I'd like to know what these ridiculously stable sniper rifles are, though. If I don't headshot (or if my bullet gets eaten by a lagshield) I'm usually dead since everyone else can apparently just hurrdurr two bodyshots.
EL CUCO
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Yes. Explosive rounds would shine mostly in PVP (not sure if they got nerfed) but you definitely do more damage points in PVE without it.
Yup, Suros can be avoided. FRs are one shot fuckers.
It's better in every way minus Firefly and Arc Damage. Better against bosses because of the bonus damage rounds. But not that much better, and Fatebringer has the "is a legendary" trait.
In practice I feel like Hawkmoon does a good job justifying its use of your exotic slot if you're using an exotic primary, but exotic specials and heavies are often the better choice in PvE.single damage crit, yes. otherwise no.
MisterAnderson
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What? Explosive rounds takes away damage? The fuck?
So...I shouldn't use Explosive Rounds then?
So...I shouldn't use Explosive Rounds then?
Impact stat.
LollipoPReapeR
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So playing as a 26 in IB was interesting.
Apart from being a bit more squishy doing a bit less damage, it wasn't all that bad. In fact I found myself finsihing positive most of te time and even topped the leaderboard once or twice.
Apart from being a bit more squishy doing a bit less damage, it wasn't all that bad. In fact I found myself finsihing positive most of te time and even topped the leaderboard once or twice.
Impact.
Vision does more damage than MIDA. Actually, I think a lot of them do.
If you have Hawkmoon, but not Fatebringer. Hawkmoon works great in the VoG during confluxes, and gatekeeper.It's better in every way minus Firefly and Arc Damage. Better against bosses because of the bonus damage rounds. But not that much better, and Fatebringer has the "is a legendary" trait.
Per weapon class. damage times impact.factoring in range and if a crit. and then you have to factor in enemy level vs player lvl vs enemy species, type, and any modifiers. it's really a lot more complicated than it needs to be.
see my post a bit above with the math. Single target crit is lower for most things. otherwise it technically does more damage.
fair enough, that should be fixed. I assume Bad Juju does less damage than some legendary pulse rifles too. I suppose I was talking about the exotics that aren't considered to need buffs. exotic base attack is higher than legendary
MIDA shoots much faster with hair trigger unlocked. Did you calculate DPS? Or just damage per hit?
Someone said they saw your Hawkmoon hitting in the 1100 range during raid and said FB was hitting in 1500 range.
Mhm, I've used Hawkmoon throughout the Normal raid and it works like a charm at just about every step of the way. In Hard, Oracles are too much for it and Gjallarhorn is too valuable not to use against the Gatekeepers.
Interesting, on what?
GalacticToast
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Anyone want to group up for IB?
figadapaura
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It's better in every way minus Firefly and Arc Damage. Better against bosses because of the bonus damage rounds. But not that much better, and Fatebringer has the "is a legendary" trait.
Yeah, I'd be hard pressed to give up my Gjallar in PvE, but I'm just enjoying my Hawkmoon for now.
Exotics should have damage go up to like 320 instead of 300 like legendaries.
Vision still does more with Full Auto working more single shot and DPS. theres a chart someone posted a week ago that showed this.
I couldn't tell you, I wasn't watching the stream. I've been after a Hawkmoon as my last exotic weapon. But after seeing the damage difference between Fatebringer, it doesn't seem worth worrying about.
figadapaura
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Impact and level pretty much.
Plus no exotic slot, plus elemental damage for Nightfalls and upcoming raid. No brainer.
it's not
Sword Of Doom
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Corrective measure + hawkmoon is the best way to take down praetorian's for those of us without gjallarhorn. I also think hawkmoon is a lot more effective in hard mode confluxes/oracles (if doing legit) because Fatebringer has very shitty range. I can snipe hobgoblins with one shot with the hawkmoon. I get better range with ADS with TLW than I get with Fatebringer.
Outside of the raid though I prefer Fatebringer and I think it's just more fun to use. Just happy there are so many good hand cannons
Btw TLW is the shit
All this Hawkmoon talk... salt to the wound due to the fact that I still don't have it
You are not Aloooooooone......
LollipoPReapeR
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Normal Raid on Ps4 anyone? Need 3 more
Psn Id same as here
Psn Id same as here
MagicWithEarvin
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All those Churros noobs in Iron Banner, it's all you hear.
I only speak for my friend who has 2 hawkmoons and no Gjallarhorn (the Hawkmooon eludes me for now)
Impact alone. There's also things like it being solar, automatic, stability, and the fact that it's a legendary that make it better.
The raid sniper has basically no recoil.
What's with the Suros hate? They're not even that big of a problem. Unless you only hate the sound....
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