This is the truth. All other shotguns are nerfed.
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This is the truth. All other shotguns are nerfed.
First: You did fine! Holy crap we flew through it. I still can't believe Scarlet's RAWR-like run through the Gorgon Maze. Right chest, killed a Gorgon, ran back to the beginning, then a quick jaunt to the end.
Second: Exotic exshmotic. Don't sweat it too bad. Exotics will come. Plus, if you get the raid weapons, they don't take up an exotic slot, do elemental damage as well, 300 damage also and don't take as long to upgrade
(at least if my memory serves me correctly)
Get your Raid weapons, take them to the NIghtfall, maybe get an exotic drop.
Take your Raid weapons to the Weekly 28 and get you some coins.
Buy exotics as you want them.
Eventually all of our vaults will look like Hawkian's....
LollipoPReapeR
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I have blue FRs that have range higher than PI. It's the crazy impact combined with the range that makes it a beast....
Also when I see blade dancers, unless they are far enough away for me to unload a Suros mag into them, I nope the fuck outta there.
We're all in agreement that Blind Watch is the worst non First Light/Bastion control map right?
C and B are still too close together meaning whoever starts at C has a huge advantage. Being able to lock down B (Titan Bubble, Striker grenades, solar grenades, trips mines, etc) pretty much ensures a win since the heavy spawns in an easily defended area. If the team plays smart everyone gets heavy ammo and it's pretty much GG from there. I was both on the giving and receiving of such a beatdown last night. Won and lost by 10k points.
C and B are still too close together meaning whoever starts at C has a huge advantage. Being able to lock down B (Titan Bubble, Striker grenades, solar grenades, trips mines, etc) pretty much ensures a win since the heavy spawns in an easily defended area. If the team plays smart everyone gets heavy ammo and it's pretty much GG from there. I was both on the giving and receiving of such a beatdown last night. Won and lost by 10k points.
Diablohead
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A visual indication of knowing when to sprint would be nice, sometimes it feels random in how long the cooldown is.
ironically, pocket infinity chews up bladedancers in one tri-blast
Ah, I guess it's the impact stat that's getting me one shot, and why I'm noticing more in Iron Banner.
Anyone use the scout rifle from IB yet? Fire rate seems slow.
GuitarAtomik
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There shouldn't be a cooldown at all IMO.
The Lamonster
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Exactly. Makes me think it's a bug...and in that case, FIX IT!
There are other shotguns in this game? Nyahaha.
The Blade Dancer super is broken. They survive two full blasts of fusion, several point blank shotgun shells. What is this. The only thing that can stop it is a Nova Bomb.
Victory Red
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A maxed The Last Word is a monster in Iron Banner. Nothing you can do against it.
There just aren't enough people out there with it maxed for anyone to notice.
It will be nerfed eventually.
Invective is the best bladedancer killer I have, but then I can't use Hawkmoon so that's out. It's been a mess of Hawkmoon hip shots / Found Verdict / Zombie Apocalypse and blinking away, mashing my own melee, sometimes succeeding. They're no thing in regular Crucible but definitely my most feared special in IB. That, and Sunsinger radiance actually seem more powerful, while the other specials pretty much play out the same as before.
PrivateWHudson
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I'm waiting for Super Good Advice to be worth it's vault slot. I love Heavy Machine guns, but there is no reason to use that over Corrective Measure.
I actually think Blind Watch is worse than First Light/Bastion. At least on those maps you can flip which A/C flag you want easily. Blind Watch A spawn has a huge disadvantage for getting B and also it is extremely tough to flip C.
The B flag really needs another new location. I think outside would be a better place for it.
Johan Liebert
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yup, changing the control points didn't change much. We were playing yesterday and honestly every time it was Blind Watch. Fortunately, we knew what to do and just straight rushed C if we spawned at A and capture B and managed to do pretty well. Would have been worse facing a team that knew about CB capture.
We were playing 5 man and had a random who would periodically try and capture A. I once let an enemy go by just so he could kill the random capturing A
I like to load it up with a full clip and just run around a zone firing it non-stop. It takes about a minute to run out.
f@luS
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I'm having mixed luck with mine. Sometimes it feels beastly and other times it feels like I'm shooting nothing but air. Of course it does not help that every other close quarters encounter I've had recently has been a radiant skin warlock, arc blade hunter or a titan with a force shield.
But what can they do without removing what makes it interesting? I love me some hammer fanning too.
I'm gonna jump in and be the lone guy that likes Pulse Rifles. Bad Juju would be great if it had a decent magazine size. Accurate from the hip? Fires in full auto? Yes please.
Bad Seed Down was my first legendary and I really liked it until i had something to really compare. But the Pox has turned into a very nice fun for PvE.
Bad Seed Down was my first legendary and I really liked it until i had something to really compare. But the Pox has turned into a very nice fun for PvE.
Stop talking about weapon buffs. You guys are just setting yourselves up for big disappointments. It will be a millions years until Bungie would seriously consider buffing anything in the game. For the foreseeable future, it's gonna be all about nerfs. Enjoy your favorite weapon as much as possible now because it's gonna be nerfed in the next hot fix!
LollipoPReapeR
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I think the best bet as alpha is to forget B and go straight for C. Done this a few times with GAFfers and it worked out perfect for us.
fuck it, even as Bravo I try to hold A/C. There's always some war going on at B though and it's a good time. I like the new Blind Watch.
TheTylerDurden
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I am actually in progress with the bounty for that. Just need to see Xur tomorrow to get it back in motion. Looking forward to getting this myself.
Uh oh... sexism...
LollipoPReapeR
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B is an even bigger clusterfuck than usual after the patch haha. I don't go in there without my fusion rifle. Yes I am one of those people.
We were playing 5 man and had a random who would periodically try and capture A. I once let an enemy go by just so he could kill the random capturing A
Machiavellian. Awesome.
Not unless you count that shriek of pain
(which makes me laugh every time - it just sounds funny)
Would you take me with you some time? I either need to get the helmet from the hard raid or the chest piece from the normal raid to reach 30.
Crimson_Gold
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Your group is always full Rub. Get me on the team man. Lol
PrivateWHudson
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That sounds fun! I may level it up now that I have an abundance of energies. Back when I got it, I couldn't afford to blow energies on "fun".
EL CUCO
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Lol yeah I find B alot of fun now. Before it was just annoying with no line ot sight and people hugging the corner waiting for someone to walk in.
Holing down C as Alpha helps alot because you flip the spawn.
Yep that's what I do too. I don't get the desire for B when you hold A? If you die you still spawn over by A and will lose B anyway. Go for C, then get B.
Haha ok, tons of ppl playing this now so it fills quick
For tonight's Newbie raid:
I had totally blanked and forgot that haunted_taco had already reserved a slot. My bad! RetroMG, I'm sorry, since you were the last to sign up I gotta bump you to first Alt. PMing you too. I'll be hitting you up first if we have any no-shows, so please do stay by your console!
This is the roster for 8:15EST:
1. schwagger15 (if you can make it!)
2. Hawkian
3. someday
4. BEHOLDER-Y
5. RidliMM
6. haunted_taco
I had totally blanked and forgot that haunted_taco had already reserved a slot. My bad! RetroMG, I'm sorry, since you were the last to sign up I gotta bump you to first Alt. PMing you too. I'll be hitting you up first if we have any no-shows, so please do stay by your console!
This is the roster for 8:15EST:
1. schwagger15 (if you can make it!)
2. Hawkian
3. someday
4. BEHOLDER-Y
5. RidliMM
6. haunted_taco
that bounty went by so fast I forget what's even involved in it. It's really easy. The weapon is also so bad I forgot I had it, so a buff would be cool. For now I'm reliant on my zombie apocalypse to get me through these iron banner headshot bounties...not much luck there. For some reason whenever I equip an LMG in crucible I die before I get to do anything.
It's not even a case of rushing early and getting rocketed, I do have common sense. It's always an unexpected Final Destination kind of death like a stray Hawkmoon one-shot or falling through the game world.
EL CUCO
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Yeah I saw your invite last night, but after my match was done your team was full.
We hard Raiding tonight, though! B)
LollipoPReapeR
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Any Europeans going into IB in the next few hours? I really don't want go in on my own
I'd be happy if they just brought it back to exactly how it was and never speak of the mistake again. It doesn't need a buff that will eventually get too many people complaining about it and have it eventually nerfed! OG Thorn is a beast. The best PVP handcannon.
... not really worth using in PVE in the face of other exotics, though. I think it's fine that it's more of a PVP weapon, especially since it's top tier, but if they wanted to make it slightly better in PVE without affecting it too much in PVP they could:
- Replace Snapshot with Scout Field perk; you'd have to decide between 7 shots, stability, or send it. Send It is the correct choice, but some people really hate the small mag. Give them ONE more bullet.
- Keep reload speed exactly the same!
- If possible, have the DOT stack twice or three times in PVE but keep it the pre-patch single 7 tick in PVP.
- If they wanted to be crazy they could have it do a specific damage type, so it could match Fatebringer in that respect, and is also a change that only affects its usefulness in PVE.
I'm getting a little bit jelly listening to all of your successes in PVP. I've never had a 10 kill streak and have trouble completing most bounties. I don't have the most experience at first person shooters in a PVP environment anyway so the learning curve for Destiny Crucible and IB has been pretty steep.
I think I am getting better. I hope I am getting better. Some games I easily finish with a K/D of higher than 1 but other games I hang around a .6 or .7. I enjoy playing my Titan but I feel like it's the bottom tier class in terms of PVP, especially in terms of getting kills.
That being said, maybe I am just not using my class to its fullest potential. Any really successful Titan PVP'ers out there have any tips for killing more and dieing less? I've read just about everything in this thread that's been written on how to PVP and I feel like I follow that advice pretty well but I am still a little bit frustrated.
In Control matches I tend to stick with Defender for the bubble but I am sorely tempted to switch back to Striker just so I can ground pound and toss lightning grenades at control points. Thoughts?
I think I am getting better. I hope I am getting better. Some games I easily finish with a K/D of higher than 1 but other games I hang around a .6 or .7. I enjoy playing my Titan but I feel like it's the bottom tier class in terms of PVP, especially in terms of getting kills.
That being said, maybe I am just not using my class to its fullest potential. Any really successful Titan PVP'ers out there have any tips for killing more and dieing less? I've read just about everything in this thread that's been written on how to PVP and I feel like I follow that advice pretty well but I am still a little bit frustrated.
In Control matches I tend to stick with Defender for the bubble but I am sorely tempted to switch back to Striker just so I can ground pound and toss lightning grenades at control points. Thoughts?
Kor of Memory
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If you'll have an american, I'll be home on my lunch break in the next 40 minutes.
The 7 dmg DoT was insane, and I loved every tick of it. I wonder if the 3 dmg is a sign of stacking to come. I would be fine with a 2-3x stack (6 or 9 dmg ticks), itw ould still kill in two shots if headshots but would not be as brutal as a one shot at a distance ( DoT dmg does NOT drop off at range like reg dmg).
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