Jinjo
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I see your two Gjallarhorn and I raise you by one.
I also got my second Mythoclast AND Multi-Tool yesterday. Pls gimme new toys game, anything.
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I see your two Gjallarhorn and I raise you by one.
I also got my second Mythoclast AND Multi-Tool yesterday. Pls gimme new toys game, anything.
Not as useful as Regime? Gjallahorn is the best boss killer in the game! I wish Everyone had one.
The loss of ammo bug is the only thing (potentially) holding it back. Otherwise it deserves all the hype it gets.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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Relic holder should be killing 2 oracles on heroic in each portal, it's really easy.
One oracle with super and other one near the portal exit with jump smash.
One oracle with super and other one near the portal exit with jump smash.
I wouldn't mind a second drop for my alt. Wish I bought the Truth now.
Jinjo
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It can literally clear out an entire side on the conflux phase of enemies. One side in trouble? Blindfire a Ballerrocket that way and it relieves the situation A LOT. Plus, a Gjallarhorn carrier can basicly solo a Gatekeeper gate. Even when tagged in the void. Not even mentioning the boss burning or oracle one-shots.
speaking of which - they said they'll boost the Mythoclast's Attack-level beyond 300.
Any guesstimations?
333
Lets take this time of maintenance to share our tinfoil hat theories!
The races following in the wake of the Darkness were once all homes to the Traveler, which then abandoned them in their time of need to save itself.
The Fallen were living in clans and fighting over resources, separate from one another and occasionally warring at the time the Traveler arrived. He united them to a greater purpose, allowing the Fallen to ascend to the stars where their needs could be fulfilled. They lived in peace for a long time until the Darkness came. The Traveler abandoned them, and the Fallen fell back into a system that while old-fashioned, was not forgotten. They banded together, forming their Houses, and though their world was destroyed by the Darkness, they followed in its wake to pursue the Traveler who had abandoned them and to claim a new home.
The Hive were a great people once with a caste-driven culture of nobility. Something dire happened and their whole world died, left ruined by a star's rage, or a plague, or worse. When the Traveler arrived it was a graveyard, but its energy brought the dead back to life, the Light reviving the dead culture and letting it rise again, more powerful than before. When the Darkness came, the Traveler abandoned these people it had rescued from death, and decay began to set in again. Fading fast, the Hive found a way to harden themselves against death with the power of the Darkness itself, draining the Light and sustaining their lives. They follow the Traveler now like carrion birds waiting for a bull elephant to die, hungry for the Light they can strip from its corpse.
The Cabal lived on a planet where there had once been an incredible, world-spanning war with an absolute and tyrannical leader. Entire generations had grown up in the military regime, and when there were finally no people left to fight, they grew stagnant. They stopped advancing as a culture, explaining why among the races they still rely on chemical reactions with gunpowder and rockets to attack instead of the laser weapons and energy wielded by the other races. The Traveler brought them purpose, inspiring them to reach beyond their globe and explore the stars around them, shrugging off their militaristic ways for a time. When it fled the Darkness, the Cabal was reintroduced to bloody conflict and once more took up the mantle of warlords. They used their new technology to reach out to the stars, and follow the Darkness in order to attain glory with new conquest.
The Vex are perhaps the strangest race, but kind of make sense in a way. Here's where my speculation gets (even more) stretched. Vader is Luke's father. The humans of the golden age created Warminds, great thinking machines that would, without doubt, be able to outlast the lifespan of something like the human race. Eventually the Traveler fled Earth as well, abandoning humans and leaving them to die. The Warmind survived, having been around for so long and absorbing so much data from the Traveler that it was able to enhance and imbue itself with the ability to project itself in a quantum state forward and back in time. Building a more and more advanced quantum array, it consumed the material left behind from mankind's fall and expanded to absorb the resources of the planet itself until in the immensely distant future, the Warminds merged to become the Minds of the Vex at the Black Garden, and in their understanding of time travel and the theory of the multiverse, they began to expand. Each time they found a version of themselves more powerful than the prior in another universe, they became supplicants. They merged their hive mind with its own, and in doing so expanded the network exponentially. With this endless loop established, the Vex finally establish enough computational energy to consume the Traveler in one of these multiverses, breaking down the space magic and energetic potential of it to form the Heart of the black garden. The humans are fighting a Warmind collective from an alternate universe where the Traveler chose to abandon the Earth.
There's no telling how long the previous falls of races took, or when the Traveler chose to abandon them. It may have been wounded grievously as it is now before it abandoned each of the races left in its wake. In time the Traveler may abandon Earth as well, and we'll just become another bitter race hunting it for revenge at bringing us back from restful death to fight a war for it.
The Fallen were living in clans and fighting over resources, separate from one another and occasionally warring at the time the Traveler arrived. He united them to a greater purpose, allowing the Fallen to ascend to the stars where their needs could be fulfilled. They lived in peace for a long time until the Darkness came. The Traveler abandoned them, and the Fallen fell back into a system that while old-fashioned, was not forgotten. They banded together, forming their Houses, and though their world was destroyed by the Darkness, they followed in its wake to pursue the Traveler who had abandoned them and to claim a new home.
The Hive were a great people once with a caste-driven culture of nobility. Something dire happened and their whole world died, left ruined by a star's rage, or a plague, or worse. When the Traveler arrived it was a graveyard, but its energy brought the dead back to life, the Light reviving the dead culture and letting it rise again, more powerful than before. When the Darkness came, the Traveler abandoned these people it had rescued from death, and decay began to set in again. Fading fast, the Hive found a way to harden themselves against death with the power of the Darkness itself, draining the Light and sustaining their lives. They follow the Traveler now like carrion birds waiting for a bull elephant to die, hungry for the Light they can strip from its corpse.
The Cabal lived on a planet where there had once been an incredible, world-spanning war with an absolute and tyrannical leader. Entire generations had grown up in the military regime, and when there were finally no people left to fight, they grew stagnant. They stopped advancing as a culture, explaining why among the races they still rely on chemical reactions with gunpowder and rockets to attack instead of the laser weapons and energy wielded by the other races. The Traveler brought them purpose, inspiring them to reach beyond their globe and explore the stars around them, shrugging off their militaristic ways for a time. When it fled the Darkness, the Cabal was reintroduced to bloody conflict and once more took up the mantle of warlords. They used their new technology to reach out to the stars, and follow the Darkness in order to attain glory with new conquest.
The Vex are perhaps the strangest race, but kind of make sense in a way. Here's where my speculation gets (even more) stretched. Vader is Luke's father. The humans of the golden age created Warminds, great thinking machines that would, without doubt, be able to outlast the lifespan of something like the human race. Eventually the Traveler fled Earth as well, abandoning humans and leaving them to die. The Warmind survived, having been around for so long and absorbing so much data from the Traveler that it was able to enhance and imbue itself with the ability to project itself in a quantum state forward and back in time. Building a more and more advanced quantum array, it consumed the material left behind from mankind's fall and expanded to absorb the resources of the planet itself until in the immensely distant future, the Warminds merged to become the Minds of the Vex at the Black Garden, and in their understanding of time travel and the theory of the multiverse, they began to expand. Each time they found a version of themselves more powerful than the prior in another universe, they became supplicants. They merged their hive mind with its own, and in doing so expanded the network exponentially. With this endless loop established, the Vex finally establish enough computational energy to consume the Traveler in one of these multiverses, breaking down the space magic and energetic potential of it to form the Heart of the black garden. The humans are fighting a Warmind collective from an alternate universe where the Traveler chose to abandon the Earth.
There's no telling how long the previous falls of races took, or when the Traveler chose to abandon them. It may have been wounded grievously as it is now before it abandoned each of the races left in its wake. In time the Traveler may abandon Earth as well, and we'll just become another bitter race hunting it for revenge at bringing us back from restful death to fight a war for it.
Suro is my most reliable oracle killing weapon. Since RNGesus hates me so much, I have yet to find any raid primary weapons (I'm already lvl 30)... I had 6 raid weapon drops: the sniper and the shotgun, 3 times each... Sometimes I wonder what did I do to piss off RNGesus this much?
figadapaura
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Relic holder can drop the relic and shoot oracles too if you're getting behind.
iRAWRasaurus
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Everyone has thier own opinions. Yeah I can see what you mean by using ice breakers and a void MG. I guess what makes ghorn awesome is the amount of dps it can do.
SkylineRKR
Member
Pretty sure its either Remote, Hard Light or MIDA.
I just think Xur is not going to offer the top wanted weapons, and the most game breaking ones. Suros was offered twice, but I feel its not game breakingly op. And its only really useful in PvP anyway.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Yeah, takes only 10-15 bullets from corrective measure to bring down an oracle on heroic
He did the second week into the game, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bungie silently removed it
Addiction to loot.
You're doing it wrong.
We also usually send a fourth into the portal on hard to help with the oracles. It shouldn't take more than two to clear out the supplicants.
SkylineRKR
Member
He did the second week into the game, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bungie silently removed it
I know, just like he sold IB after the 5th week or so. But I doubt this will happen again seeing how ridiculously useful they are in the most difficult PvE content. The lack of Solar Burn is sort of suspicious too. My Mythoclast and Pocket are waiting for ages now.
scarletham
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...welp, horn nerf inc?
Johan Liebert
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RNG. The Cryptarch being its agent.
Yes, that's definitely a solid approach. The Rocket is more valuable there than fired into Atheon. I had come to this determination after a few wipes as well and was ready to fuck his shit up with the Horn.
Result:
But yeah, I'll try again next time I'm ported in there, I can get that rocket to the ground quicker. I always forget it homes in even if you don't aim.
Damn. No kidding, I didn't think that hitting R2 on the ground did anything at all. I wonder what I've been doing wrong -_-
The rocket ammo glitch is something that affects every launcher and has nothing to do with Gjallarhorn. Ice Breaker is a fine choice for the Gatekeepers but even as a 29 two Gjallarhorn rockets got him down to <25% without any other damage I feel very confident in my ability to solo either Gatekeeper on Normal with it at this point, and at 30 I'm certain I'd be able to on Hard as well. Finally in terms of raw damage to Atheon when everything IS going to plan, nothing beats it.
HiredN00bs
Member
Yup. I do the Nightfall on all 3 characters first thing on Tuesday because it stacks under everything. I've been buying as much telemetry as I can so I have a diverse set. I load up a character with three weapons I want to level, 2 Legendaries and an Exotic, I complete 5 bounties, preferably 5000s, and then turn on the 2 or 3 appropriate telemetries (I believe Fusion Rifle and Shotgun Telemetry apply to Vex Mythoclast and Universal Remote, respectively). 25,000 XP * 1.25 Nightfall * 1.1 Telemetry = 35,750 XP applied to each weapon.
I am going to be irrationally furious if Xur doesn't have The Last Word tomorrow. I will also accept 'Horn but don't care as much about that. For the insane amount of time I've played the game it's..starting.. to become a little infuriating I don't have TLW/Hawkmoon.
I have 50 coins, give me something good Xur!
I have 50 coins, give me something good Xur!
Persona RS
Member
When we had both people helping the Relic carrier with the Minotaur we wiped to the Oracles
Does ground R2 actually do anything?
Ground R2 is a smash/bash attack that staggers. On the left, this is how I do it.
SkylineRKR
Member
Turn in a public event package too. Its 5k on top of it. Can be stacked also.
The Vex
^maxed out tinfoil hat right there, only thing I'm relatively sure is that
are future humans. First we built the Exos out of our desire to life forever (it's somewhere in the grimoire), but that didn't work, so we came up with organic mind-cores.
^maxed out tinfoil hat right there, only thing I'm relatively sure is that
there was no golden age. looking around the Cosmodrome I see nothing that hints at a civilization that was technologically superior to the guys living in the tower.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Don't ask questions, they wil get you kill.
Yup. You not only need to own it already, but also need to be in the mental state of NOT liking it that much. Only then RNGesus will drop several of those on your laps. Try practicing self-hypnosis. Tell yourself repeatedly: "I don't like the Ghorn. I don't need the Ghorn!"
AmateurHour212
Member
Yeah... that was basically my response.
Aren't the servers, you know, actually down?
If you're anyting like me you'll remember your first exotic and cherish it fondly
This was mine
it's decent.
figadapaura
Member
SkylineRKR
Member
I had 2 Cures and it had only one rocket, so I dismantled.
But one with 2 rockets and tracking is golden. I've used an Exodus Plan with those for very long (which could even reload to 3 rockets). Heavy Payload would be the icing on those RL.
PachinkoChampBruh
Member
people don't realize that fusion rifles are beasts with oracles, i use light beware and its usually two to three charged shots to take them down. on hard
I realize it. I'm thinking Pocket Infinity has a lot of unexplored utility in the raid. The thing chews up Praetorians as well. Hmmmmmmrmmm.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
yep I know what you mean. Back when I was 29, every time when I bough an exotic gear, I would get the raid equivalent after I lvl it up.
Ah, well then. Hope you get a VoC or Epilogue soon.
Cømet;138700525 said:It hurts me because I can see Zakalwe in Crucible through PSN, but I can't get into the game
Won't be able to play again tonight now, servers come back up whilst I'm working. Bah.
Must be bugged man, I was kicked out with everyone else.
HawksWinStanley
Member
I think overall Thorn is still the more versatile gun for crucible. Maybe it's just my play style or limited experience with TLW so far but Thorn's range and DoT just makes it way more deadly on any given map.
Might just be the way you wrote it, but remember XP is distributed equally so you don't need to funnel it to a single item (just in case you're still going with the old info). A friend of mine was funnelling to a single item until I told him yesterday that technique was debunked weeks ago... He was a little peeved.
And yeh, if you like TLW without upgrades you're in for a treat.
Also, remember it's full auto. So many people don't realise that. I saw a guy using it in crucible and messaged him asking if he knew, he told me he'd been on excited to get it to pay attention.
Wait, so when I go to turn in bounties it levels all of my weapons, not just the ones I have equipped? That can't be right...
HiredN00bs
Member
Yup, and a daily story. 6875 from the PE and 10125 from the Daily Story on 28.
AmateurHour212
Member
You're level 30 and you have a GHorn. Trust me when I say that RNGesus loves you.
Yes, that's definitely a solid approach. The Rocket is more valuable there than fired into Atheon. I had come to this determination after a few wipes as well and was ready to fuck his shit up with the Horn.
Result:
Ha. I have experienced that too. Especially when I tried to shoot Atheon with the Ghorn. The rocket just exploded right after it leaves the muzzle. It has killed me a few times and that also adds to my impression of Ghorn being less useful in the VoG.
To think that weapons we have nowadays already have this basic safety feature of not arming the warhead unless it has traveled a certain distance away from the launcher, preventing accidental fire at a close-by object from killing the shooter. The creators of the great Ghorn had to leave this feature out...
Damn, I do have Atheon's Epilogue too, forgot I had it on my Warlock, but eh. Most important thing is just hitting each oracle immediately, Hawkmoon will take them apart.
I think the first loadout I'll try for next Atheon attempt will be Hawkmoon, 77, Corrective Measure. Possibly switching to Horn and popping a heavy synth when he's down to <33%. just the strategy adjustments I've learned today should go a long way.
Oh, on the gatekeepers, here's a thing:
I became a big fan of entering from the other side, like going around to the side of the portal that faces Atheon and enter that way, for Green/Right/Venus side. Then the Portal is between you and the Gatekeeper/Ultra mobs. You can take a second and aim and fire off your heavy without any threat. It kept me alive multiple times. Running into that portal as a 29 and being face to face with the Gatekeeper was like near-instant death.
I think the first loadout I'll try for next Atheon attempt will be Hawkmoon, 77, Corrective Measure. Possibly switching to Horn and popping a heavy synth when he's down to <33%. just the strategy adjustments I've learned today should go a long way.
Oh, on the gatekeepers, here's a thing:
I became a big fan of entering from the other side, like going around to the side of the portal that faces Atheon and enter that way, for Green/Right/Venus side. Then the Portal is between you and the Gatekeeper/Ultra mobs. You can take a second and aim and fire off your heavy without any threat. It kept me alive multiple times. Running into that portal as a 29 and being face to face with the Gatekeeper was like near-instant death.
Well, I shot it point-blank at an Oracle, I don't think that points to it being particularly less than useful so much as my horrible positioning and bad luck. If that rocket had been fired 1s earlier and found its mark on the Minotaur, for all we know we might have killed Atheon that round.
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