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Destiny |OT13| How the Grind Stole Christmas
- Thread starter Hawkian
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KINGofCRA5H
Member
Eh, I think the gameplay/gunplay is the actual best thing about Destiny.
Exactly how I feel...It just gives these fuckers more attention and thats all they want. This will continue to happen until a proper trap is set for them.
shaunLEGEND
Member
wow it takes a lot of adjustment to get use to Crucible on PS3. It's way laggier even though my connection shows full strength.
Blink jumps and the characters disappear. The blurriness means I can't see enemies further away like I am use to.
Blink jumps and the characters disappear. The blurriness means I can't see enemies further away like I am use to.
Stantron
Member
I stayed up last night to do the double Eris bounty. Got teamed up with two others who were very likely doing the same thing. And we steam rolled through the DLC earth strike. Constant orb generation and chaining of supers. Liberal use of heavy ammo. It was a nice change of pace from the typical randoms. I think I still prefer ME3 MP gameplay by a fair margin though. I should get back into that.
MrGreencastle
Member
It's the best feeling shooter I've okayed in a long while. Even gives halo a run for it's money on the shooty bang stuff, too.
brianjones
Member
i love chaining supers
makes the undying mind strike a lot of fun
makes the undying mind strike a lot of fun
Jest Chillin
Member
Well the playerbase is everyone who plays.
On a more serious note.. the specific amount varies for each game and their developers and publishers. Also on how they monetize. A game like CoD doesn't need quite as much retention over time as long as they can get the players to buy DLC and even barring that it has a Single Player campaign that can satisfy customers. A game like Destiny needs a higher player retention because of perpetual nature in both PvE and PvP. If the game feels empty to new players, they're not very likely to stick around.
Everyone understands that Subscription and Micro Transaction games place barriers to fuel their income but they miss the fact that a game like Destiny needs to keep the players actively playing just as much to keep the game alive as there is no true "solo" facet of it.
The hooks are in the grind though. And I define grind as any repetive tasks needed to reach a goal whether you enjoy those tasks or not. So in my view, every game functions through grinding. Sure they could adjust the grind to be "easier" but that just leads to players achieving their goals faster and then moving on. Which, as I said just above, is more detrimental to this kind of game than it is to a standard FPS. It's also worth noting that nearly every FPS out now has instituted a grind to it's MP to both make it feel perpetual as well as provide goals to be achieved. And those grinds are typically quite long.
This this this! Are you reading Bungie?
GalacticToast
Member
Okay, so I think I might redbox the PS3 version of Destiny just to get to Xur. But, I don't have TDB on PS3. I have mostly raid armor equipped. What would happen to my gear if I loaded up a character with that stuff on?
shysaursoft
Member
Point. But I think there is something to be said for the "core" playerbase that keeps the engine going, regardless of the flux in population from sales, trials, etc. If that core is large enough, the thing is perpetual (look at Blur/Halo Wars). I think Destiny has a lot going for it that will give it a stable core large enough to sustain it, though only time will tell. And since the roadmap was already laid out long ago (three games with two xpacs each, your char transfers from game to game), the next 10 years are pretty much set for Destiny, in spite of the initial hurdle and dropoff.
Byron Bluth
Banned
brianjones
Member
good question.. same situation here
don't wanna fuck anything up in my desperation to play the game
anyone?
You can still use any gear you got from TDB, you just won't be able to access the new missions or bounties. This includes the raid.
Nami I'm on if you need a handI was about to ask who wants to do weekly together.
Psn colonelocorn
Byron Bluth
Banned
This is not goodwill. This is something that should be obvious since people can't play their game due to their dependence on PSN.
Bungie, if you are reading this there is no excuse for you not to extend his stay. Seriously.
shaunLEGEND
Member
You just might have to take one for the team and find out.
Byron not only that but they should FIX the offerings. Seriously No Land Beyond is crap. Lump of coal it is.
Byron Bluth
Banned
Byron not only that but they should FIX the offerings. Seriously No Land Beyond is crap. Lump of coal it is.
And their January Christmas gift will be equal to the crappy package everyone got for buying TDB. Blues and trash.
Jest Chillin
Member
The core isn't something that we can really quantify accurately and if the game feels empty enough (say it takes a 5 minute search to join a normal Strike), then why would any players who experienced that and left, continue to buy the future installments? At the end of the day, despite the road map, each Destiny installment (and to a certain degree the DLC) needs to meet monetary income goals in order for the next installment to come to fruition. Recouping cost and then profiting is a necessary evil. Otherwise I'm certain Activision will cut their losses and get their funding returned which would be terrible for Bungie.
This is why Zipper never recovered from Socom 4, which took a hit both from vocal dissent and the first PSN outage. They put out a few more games after that but couldn't remain profitable so they were shuttered.
Byron not only that but they should FIX the offerings. Seriously No Land Beyond is crap. Lump of coal it is.
Lots of guns had a bad rep early on. HC's were thought to be poor Scouts, Fast RoF/Low Impact AR's thought to be subpar, Scouts thought to be useless in PvP, even Gjall was thought to be pretty bad until people started unlocking Wolfpack Rounds. It's a bit early yet to say it's completely worthless.
Byron Bluth
Banned
I need that Hawkmoon upgrade!!
I also want to upgrade my Helm of Inmost Light and buy the new Warlock gauntlets.
I've got all the coins, shards and glimmer to do it. Just give me 10 minutes in the game! Come onnnnnn
I also want to upgrade my Helm of Inmost Light and buy the new Warlock gauntlets.
I've got all the coins, shards and glimmer to do it. Just give me 10 minutes in the game! Come onnnnnn
TheTylerDurden
Member
Vita sure is handy for being able to move around the house and keep trying to log in via remote play.
KINGofCRA5H
Member
Byron Bluth
Banned
No but they better. If PSN goes back up by tonight at least we have a day. But if this bullshit continues tomorrow they damn well better!!!!
plantedunicorn
Member
I think you can retain people just by the game being fun. I know the COD is kinda toxic but look at when COD 4 came out. That game basically planted it's flag at the top when it came out cos it was fun and the leveling up system rewarded you for it. You didn't have to wait a freaking week to unlock your red dot sight or your grenade launcher.
Destiny feels like they're trying to capture what infinity ward did what COD 4 but they're just not capable of doing.
Byron Bluth
Banned
I will be taking mine to the family dinner I am at tonight so if PSN does come back up or I somehow get on I will get what I need from Xur at least.
Made sure the disc was in the drive since I was playing Dragon Age Inquisition all day.
The Lamonster
Member
It's No Land Beyond and no engram, who even cares?
Keep your coal, Bungie. Shit's insulting.
...I am jealous of your Hawkmoon and/or Ghorn.
Damn, didn't see this earlier before I got off. Got boring walking around an empty world
brianjones
Member
gotta be kidding me..
got the ps3 version
signed into PSN fine
destiny servers are not available
got the ps3 version
signed into PSN fine
destiny servers are not available
TheTylerDurden
Member
Disc? What is this disc thing you speak of?
Actually just now the login routine is immediately timing out as opposed to taking a minute to do...which is good I think, *something* is going on/changing. Maybe they are close.
scarletham
Member
True dedication
GalacticToast
Member
Let me know if you get in. I'll go pick one up too.
BlindMonkey
Member
I don't get why a select number can still log on to PSN and Destiny but a majority can't.
I have 25 friends online, 1 in Destiny with me, where i've been for the last 6 hours (PS4 here)
I have 25 friends online, 1 in Destiny with me, where i've been for the last 6 hours (PS4 here)
KINGofCRA5H
Member
You are a true warrior, Cosmos.
Yeah. I have been on since 3:45 am. Was able to switch characters once but got greedy and tried to do it again a few minutes ago. Oops.
Still, turned in 17 bounties, leveled a Gjallarhorn to 331, two manned the first two sections of the raid and got the Salvage trophy.
#havetosayitwasagoodday
TheTylerDurden
Member
Dang. I'd like to be levelling up my giggidyhorn right now. Maybe even messing around with that wacky primary sniper for lulz.
shaunLEGEND
Member
Holy shit, are you kidding me? I am never logging off then.
Tyler my son Josh (thank you for running with him, by the way) was optimistic. But even he gave up after a while with NLB. Oh well. He tried.
At least ours was from a drop. I'd be miffed if he had burned coins on that atrocity!
Phaethon0017
Member
Haha, nice. You go camping in the wilderness and bring the grind with you. JDirty in tow
?Sucks though, I was just playing with iRAWR and we did some strikes, the Daily, left his fireteam and now I'm back to unable to sign in. Glad I didn't use that Rocket telemetry!
shysaursoft
Member
True. But we're still talking in hypotheticals here. It doesn't take five minutes to find a Strike yet. And currently, the game is enjoying a rather decent success, in spite of a lot of naysaying. Activision and Bungie have posted very positive reports about the game, which could be blowing smoke, sure, but I don't see a reason why they would at this point.
As for Zipper, there's a bit more to that story, like the failed Vita causing their excellent Vita game to have no sales - so Sony is every bit to blame for them shuttering, just like Studio Liverpool. But I do get what you're saying - I just think it's too early to place bets.
Darryl M R
Member
This is perfect, less people can upgrade their Hawkmoon.
What's people go-to special weapon (legendary or exotic)?
What's people go-to special weapon (legendary or exotic)?