I know. Should have still called out that dome i dropped on both of ya still, lol
Yeah. I saw the shot to take off the Templar's shields just.. disappear at least 3 times. Server ate it.
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Destiny |OT13| How the Grind Stole Christmas
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I know. Should have still called out that dome i dropped on both of ya still, lol
Yeah. I saw the shot to take off the Templar's shields just.. disappear at least 3 times. Server ate it.
I love you.
jadedm17
Member
My group on Atheon suffered all sorts of glitches while trying to beat him 30 minutes ago : Not being damaged, going through teleport to end up in the same area, putting a shield around one in the zone and two outside, just to name a few. Why is this raid still so glitchy?
It hits hard, has solid range and damage that lingers; I've also found it easier to aim and get head shots with. Hawkmoon I'll play with more once I upgrade it but the short time I had with it didn't do much for me.
Twilight Gap
Member
i appreciate the challenge. i just don't like that it glitches on top of that and nobody is interested in doing it "legit" after wiping due to annoying glitches over and over.
Totally looking for a squad to roll with. Add me : coolasj19
You're still Hard Mode Raiding, why? I admit, I will do things in Destiny just to help friends get loot. But what are you trying to get.
The Templar is probably the best boss in the game. Atheon is after that. The entire VoG is really just fantastic. Encounters with multiple solutions are the best.
They need to introduce a loot phase at Deathsingers (even if it's just shards) so people will play it. No one ever wants to do DS on LFG, which sucks.
LFG is pretty bad now anyway because most people just want to cheese each phase of the raid. It's difficult getting legit groups together, which is not how this should be.
LFG is pretty bad now anyway because most people just want to cheese each phase of the raid. It's difficult getting legit groups together, which is not how this should be.
I feel like you should have gone with a lot more flash for your first post. Then again, mine was a timid realization of what AnimeGAF Thread was.
I was editing it lol
Xbone or PS4?
Stupid question, I know.
Also, sadface. Just ran into two randoms, both using mics. Midway through a game, mopped up the competition with super after heavy after super.
Now we can't join eachother because of vultures and caterpillars.
Whoops, forgot I wasn't party leader. Thanks for the help!
DrDrizzay101
Member
I'm just talking about the encounter design itself, glitches are a separate issue. Personally I've never run into so many Templar glitches that it would make me want to cheese, but I've certainly seen some (including multiple times wiping flawless runs, even before the patch that apparently glitched out Templar even worse for flawless). But if the glitches really are bad then I definitely wouldn't mind switching it up just to get through it. Groups where I've run it since the patch just want to cheese it because people keep dying to detain shields, etc.
Glitches are always going to be the part of the game and always going to be annoying. We had to wipe a Crota kill last week because the sword disappeared instead of being picked up when we just needed one more shield break to finish him. To each his own of course, not trying to start any trouble, I just feel like I'm alone in my love for that encounter, haha.
Bolded = Yes! I stand corrected, glad there is at least one more Team Templar out there.
Two vog hard modes done, and I got two mythoclasts and two fatebringers.... no timepiece though
Yeah I got messages pretty fast. We are doing vog again tomorrow or tuesday though, so i'll get you in then.
no worries man. i don't really need need anything from it, but i don't mind shooting stuff if you need someone
Twilight Gap
Member
I'm just talking about the encounter design itself, glitches are a separate issue. Personally I've never run into so many Templar glitches that it would make me want to cheese, but I've certainly seen some (including multiple times wiping flawless runs, even before the patch that apparently glitched out Templar even worse for flawless). But if the glitches really are bad then I definitely wouldn't make switching it up just to get through it. Groups where I've run it since the patch just want to cheese it because people keep dying to detain shields, etc.
Glitches are always going to be the part of the game and always going to be annoying. We had to wipe a Crota kill last week because the sword disappeared instead of being picked up when we just needed one more shield break to finish him. To each his own of course, not trying to start any trouble, I just feel like I'm alone in my love for that encounter, haha.
Bolded = Yes! I stand corrected, glad there is at least one more Team Templar out there.
i like the oracle phase because it requires positioning and quick thinking to manage the adds, snipers and oracles. the templar is somewhat similar, but the glitches there ruin it really fast.
Mick Stagger
Member
If there is still a spot open PSN: Alpha-Perro
Sorry just filled up.
Mick Stagger
Member
no problem, thanks!
joecanada
Member
Ill go fire it up 15 min... We don't need a full group till later I know most of it
Deathsinger is honestly really easy. Just did it first try with a group and no one died. You just need a solid game plan and strat.
Also, I picked up someone from lfg who wanted to cheese Crota. Convinced him to stay for one try, and we ended up beating Crota on that first try. Hate when people want to cheese.
Not really no.
On the plus side exotics level a lot faster now so it doesn't sting as much as it would've before (upgraded my Gjallarhorn yesterday and maxed it tonight).
On the negative we are gonna have to do the same thing when House of Wolves launches :/
In terms of leveling, a team of 30 could totally do the new raid, as long as 1 is a 31. I would just stay 30 and get raid gear. And if you weren't 30 before you can just jump to 31.
DrDrizzay101
Member
Try to hit at least Lv27 and then get into a Vault of Glass group. The enemies (and boss) at the end are Lv28 so you will probably have the most fun if you can even get to Lv28 first. You won't be dying as much or feel like other people just have to carry you, you can contribute as well as anyone else.
Lots of experienced raiders here are happy to sherpa n00bs with good 'tudes (myself included). I always have fun with new raiders and happy to take as long as necessary to explain all encounter mechanics, cheese-free. PSN is DrDrizzay101, feel free to add me although I won't be back from vacation until tomorrow night.
For sure, like I said oracles phase is excellent except that the time it takes is set in stone. It needs to be adjustable to accommodate more skilled groups, like every other phase in either raid, besides confluxes (putting these back to back is the cardinal sin of VoG). Oracles is maybe the best example of managing all 3 weapon slots for the different types of adds/oracles. For example, FBringer is great for trash, IceB for hobbies, CMeasure for minotaurs and oracles. Adjusting your positioning and managing your weaponry as your team calls out adds/oracles is a blast.
DrDrizzay101
Member
Hawkian posted a reddit thread where someone supposedly broke it down and it takes ~17% less XP to max exotic weapons now. Although I'm with you on this one, I've only maxed one exotic since the expansion and it didn't feel noticeably faster, maybe just a smidge.
If I ever get around to leveling my 331 version up, I want to try it out with the DLC Warlock exotic gauntlets that give you two melee attacks. You can just keep getting scorch/energy drain overshields, I feel like it would be really good for flawless CE runs during the first phase for example. Any place with lots of trash to keep your melee attack constantly available.
Much better. Don't get banned.
PS4. Last time I tagged around two randoms it was that after a random CE Raid, I carried them through the Nightfall ( I basically solo'd the damn thing they were so ineffective ), I then invited them both to my clans Raid to fill in. Holy crap. We would have done better trying to 4 man the damn thing.
http://youtu.be/grJbWcafBeE
Crota's End is missing something novel like the Maze and Jumping puzzles. We've started 5 manning the Raid regularly and it's pretty fun needing new strategies for a few things. The initial Gate is really fun with everyone taking up one position each at the Spire summoning pit and 2 people inbetween the Left middle and right circles. Aetheon and Oracles require a dedicated man for middle and a dedicated hobgoblin hunter (me).I'm just talking about the encounter design itself, glitches are a separate issue. Personally I've never run into so many Templar glitches that it would make me want to cheese, but I've certainly seen some (including multiple times wiping flawless runs, even before the patch that apparently glitched out Templar even worse for flawless). But if the glitches really are bad then I definitely wouldn't mind switching it up just to get through it. Groups where I've run it since the patch just want to cheese it because people keep dying to detain shields, etc.
Glitches are always going to be the part of the game and always going to be annoying. We had to wipe a Crota kill last week because the sword disappeared instead of being picked up when we just needed one more shield break to finish him. To each his own of course, not trying to start any trouble, I just feel like I'm alone in my love for that encounter, haha.
Bolded = Yes! I stand corrected, glad there is at least one more Team Templar out there.
DrDrizzay101
Member
Sweet mother of mercy you don't even need big combos to finish him as a 32.
2 sword kills are possible as a Lv31 but each one needs to be practically perfect. Pick up one orb before approaching him, do 3-4 R2 slams each time, then the second combo will have your super available by the end. As soon as the 4th R2 hits immediately use the super which will animation cancel for one last quick attack. Dead in 4 combos.
xplicitone
Member
I'm down. I need everything after lamps. Haven't tried to solo bridge with my hunter so I stopped there
Hey man, I'm just saying my own experience. Did yesterday's and today's bounties. Moving my Ghorn through all 3 characters. Add a few Eris bounties (only really do those on my Hunter) and a few bounties I already had before yesterday (not many cause I was using them all on my new Ice Breaker).
Didn't even use a telemetry actually. Have Nightfall buff on of course.
I think part of the problem is that the end game is almost entirely built around 1 type of item and that is armor, and the only way of acquiring it is through the raid. So it ultimately comes down to "How can I make this progression as quick as possible?" and that comes down to what is the easiest way to complete the raid. If you can avoid as many encounters as possible, you're reducing the chances of failure, which is in turn increasing the chances of success. Hell, I solo'd the first 2 parts of the raid today by myself, grabbing both chests as well. Figured I would do it again next week to make my progression a bit quicker.
johnFkennedy
Member
Anyone doing the weekly heroic?
PSN:SEBattleship
PSN:SEBattleship
Sorry we couldn't get it done! We were definitely getting the timing down those last few attempts.
djblackice
Member
Just RNGed the 4th Horsemen Exotic shotgun from a ROC playlist.
Holy crap, it looks nice.
Holy crap, it looks nice.
Jest Chillin
Member
That really doesn't have to do with armor or how you acquire armor. The Raid itself IS the endgame and the people who cheese it to get the armor are just trivializing the difficulty... so that they can be higher level to again trivialize the difficulty. The fact is, players aren't cheesing to reach the end game because they're already there. They're cheesing to get the reward as easily as possible.
The thing about that, that I don't really understand is.. the only draw to beating the endgame is in accomplishing that feat. The reward is the proof that you've done so. That gear and those weapons aren't necessary for anything else until the next expansion/sequel.. so once you're geared.. that's it. However those rewards lose their value in my eyes if they aren't earned through beating encounters using the intended mechanics. Apparently a lot of people feel differently though.
DrDrizzay101
Member
Yeah, very true. Coming up with novel solutions, because of self-imposed limitations or w/e, is tons of fun. Guys that 2-manned hard VoG were really clever with this, mad props. Also, "dedicated hobgoblin hunter" just sounds cool.
CE is basically missing the 2nd half of the raid. First two encounters are so damn good and then it face plants into moldy garbage (I know I complain about this a lot, sorry everyone). Probably naive but I'm holding out hope that hard mode will have an encounter added to the end with "another form" of Crota. Never played it, but I know WoW had a couple raids with bonus encounters at the end, only available on heroic difficulty. Hopefully they are doing something with all this time besides cheese-prevention.
Ha, yeah I don't understand this either. Maybe just to tell their friends or show off their gear or they don't care about raiding and just want it for Crucible/IB...? Makes no sense to me but more power to them. Thankfully Gaf lets us avoid that LFG silliness.
CouchMaster
Member
Fatebringer is a beast, I've never liked HCs because I'm more of a high fire rate spray n pray type (suck at aiming with sticks), but I'm just in love with this gun. My fully upgraded AE, Suros and Vex are warming the bench in the vault now. Going for critical hit every time has turned into its own meta game with FB.
Hey Vault hard team, sorry I had to bail. Baby woke up so I went to help out. I think we were glitched bad. Maybe we could have restarted it from a checkpoint and it would have been better...
On that note, I'm once again available if anyone is doing raid stuff! PSN kidklovius
Roc strikes or crucible would be cool too!
On that note, I'm once again available if anyone is doing raid stuff! PSN kidklovius
Roc strikes or crucible would be cool too!
DrDrizzay101
Member
I'd be down for some Roc strikes tomorrow night, if you need a 3rd. Need to get at least a few marks before reset. Maybe I'll eventually use one of these commendations I've been stock piling. Does finishing strikes give weapon XP or just armor XP btw?
Armor only.
Sure thing man. I'll be home around 4:30 EST.
I think it gives both...I think.
Shinigami no Mori
Member
Need 1 for Crota PS4
PSN: ShinigamiFrost
PSN: ShinigamiFrost
PSN kidklovius (i'm on your list)