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Destiny |OT15| What Cheese May Come
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Robdraggoo
Member
corta was fun as hell tuesday. yesterday, today? Not so much, the crota fight was not fun on hard, was frustrating and a chore.
All the shit they added would be fine as a challenge if they weren't lvl 33. Would've been more fun than frustrating.
Wat.
Which is a problem in itself, Atheon still needed teamwork even if everyone is the same level as Atheon, this raid is designed that Bungie had to have the raid cheat the levelling system to pose a challange rather than implement mechanics that required extra layers of teamwork to accomplish.
It's not fun. I'm swearing off of it once I get the Word of Crota and maybe the Crux of Crota.
I just think people are letting the game bother them too much. If the group you're with can't beat it in 2+ hours it's time to find a different group or come back later when there's an easier strategy. Don't let the game get the best of you.
Johan Liebert
Member
Does the suppressor grenade nullify the ogre's void beam?
noomi
Member
Same here, once I collect all the weapons I'm done with hard crota. Crux can wait...
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I'm totally not gonna bother. Ugly armor designs. The Queen can go shove it up her ass.
LollipoPReapeR
Member
Is it even worth this though? It doesn't seem all that great in the first place. And crux seems like a really rare drop anyway
Yes, please. Supremacy rocks.
Attempted Crota HM last night. It was pretty brutal at first, but the group came together and we made it all the way to Crota. I shockingly was awarded the pulse rifle and auto rifle. I have yet to get a heavy weapon drop off of normal mode Crota... I agree with the sentiments that the changes to the raid are cheap and just not fun. But I'll still be excited to hopefully take down Crota later in the week 
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.PrivateWHudson
Member
If anyone is doing anything CE related and would like an extra body, let me know. I'd be happy to come along.
Psn same as gaf.
Psn same as gaf.
silver.tongue
Member
That's what most annoying. There's no new mechanics.
- No chalice. Can you do something during the fight to get a chalice or regen health? No. Better find very specific gear to help you with that. :/
- Gatekeeper during the fight. Do you get something if you kill it? No. So it's there just to stop us from going to the "safe room". You're supposed to just avoid it during the whole fight. :/
- Major boomers. Tons of health. Take forever to down. Want some piece of mind to actually see whats going on in the battle instead of just jumping around like a maniac all the time? Just kill them. In that case have a wizard for your trouble. :/
- Panic enrage. You're finnaly beating Crota! Here's an enrage/oversoul last second "mechanic". Just make sure to time things right so you dont loose the sword at this point..
TearsOfBlood
Member
Looks like I'm still looking for a group =/ Anyone? Full HM run or Crota, I can do both.
Probably not, but I'm going to run the HM Crota with my regular raid group soon. I'll see how they feel about it. If they want to get the guns, I'd help them run it.
Here's what I hate; the Crota fight just makes people angry at eachother. (not withstanding the aggravating glitches, and lag which lately has been incredibly bad). There is virtually no room for any single member of your team to fuckup. It's incredibly hard to pick up slack for anyone. Combine this with the fact that the entire experience is pointless unless you beat it since you get no xp, glimmer or anything. If you atleast received the glimmer to fund further attempts so you can purchase a 20 stack every so many wipes, it'd be slightly better. But the fact is that wiping repeatedly for 10 hours just costs you somewhere in the region of 120 heavy synths, and you don't even fire most of those rockets, they get eaten by the heavy ammo glitch which is still in - is seriously ruining the experience. Then there's the fact that the time between wipes tends to be super short, you're literally wiping every 10 to 20 kills - even if you're succesful most of your time is spent avoiding enemies instead of actively engaging them. You can't go toe to toe solo with any enemy besides the thrall and the acolytes, the hallowed knights take 5 or 6 fully upgraded black hammer headshots to kill, Furthermore the timing for the encounter is super tight, so any latency is virtually disasterous, meaning you kind of start disliking your party members with bad connections - because they're literally making the encounter more difficult. It honestly feels like Bungie doesn't play their own games and has no idea how the tweaks they make affect the gameplay. Crota's end is not fun, it removes the visceral feeling of the gunplay and turns all of your guns into paintballs for the sake of faked difficulty. It's not a fun co-op experience where people can chip in and help each other out, it polarizes your entire party, sends frustration skyrocketing and has people on the verge of rage quitting for 90% of the run.
Byron Bluth
Banned
Good to join us around 8ish tonight?
This is my favorite, because after we finally figured out how to best deal with boomers, wizards and ogres we are greeted with an unexpected enrage. This was the one that almost broke me until we figured out how to manage it.
BMO = GOAT
Member
Anyone need one more looking to kill Crota?
If they're stupid enough to do that twice I'm out too. Bloodborne will be out around then anyways.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Yeah, I just can't see them pulling that shit twice. I'd be shocked.
grimlock33
Member
I'll be jumping on the Bloodbourne train as well. Definitely will not deal with the same exotic upgrade process.
GlamFM
Banned
I really hope they just add 3 bubbles this time.
Byron Bluth
Banned
Yes. Just been doing that. No need to run striker. He will melee tho
That was really the worst system anyone could have ever devised. I get why they did it. They want to welcome new players and make new players feel like they are not "too far behind to jump in" but they did it at the price of just royally screwing their dedicated players. I am OK with the ReXurBish requirement but don't make me revel from zero and re-unlock all the perks again.
silver.tongue
Member
Same. Not going through it all again.
If anything can pull me away from this game it will be this combination of events (ReXurbishing Part II + Bloodborne).
Still need to catch up, I have a feeling that word of crota will be my elusive fatebringer, hope not see you guys Saturday
Oh and I forgot the best part, dealing with this frustration is not going to be worth it in the end because this is the hardest content in the game. What are you going to do with the loot it gives you besides run crota again? And you're not going to use those guns because they're pointlessly weak. And they'll be rendered irrelevant by the house of wolves DLC. At this point you might as well wait for house of wolves and come back when this content is trivial and just run it for completionisms sake.
Sword Of Doom
Member
yeah I think that was a stupid move by them and most of the people I played with either don't play anymore because of it or don't seem as dedicated.
Stallion Dan
Member
Any Crota kill teams looking for one more? Or any HM CE from start happening? I got alts.
Johan Liebert
Member
They'll probably keep the exotic shard system in place but update the loot tables and Xur's upgrade inventory with the new att/def levels for the exotics.
Still have to reupgrade from Xur, I bet.
Still have to reupgrade from Xur, I bet.
It just seems like Bungie doesn't want to put in any extra development time for unique features and options. Everything is kinda phoned in with minimal effort. Maybe all of their efforts are on Destiny 2? Things like not upgrading only the last 3 nodes, or having a unique speeder for Crota are signs of just not caring. Maybe I'm wrong - definitely not a software developer. Some kind of bureaucratic problems are going on in there.
Xur must be so confusing to new players considering you can "upgrade" a 331 damage exotic from him and now there's no way for new players to get the old exotics. Personally I've upgraded everything I wanted for weeks now and that part of Xur's menu is useless, and I didn't even go crazy upgrading stuff. Really hoping they don't pull that again. The difference between 300-3331ATTK doesn't even feel like much. For such a minor bump we should only have to unlock the damage upgrades and not the perks again. Or just keep the max attack value at 331, that's fine
Qwell
Member
This is actually what I was thinking as well, I really just want the Word of Crota for Void Burns as I'm sure its better than Atheon's Epilogue. I haven't attempted HM Crota yet, but it sounds pretty tough especially with the already tight restrictions. I mean just this week I was running a normal with a bunch of 32's and the timing was off just enough that we kept wiping, for a good amount of time, yet my run earlier in the week almost the same team makeup it was 1 run and done. And HM Crota with an even tighter amount of timing ... uggg...
It's just a system placed for the next DLC, continuing to upgrade those exotics.
A bunch of people have posted in here with that confusion. Some even reset their 331s by mistake.
PrivateWHudson
Member
Should we start our own?