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Destiny |OT20| HoW Comes, No Raid?

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Deku Tree

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i'd like to see these changes made to crucible

-reduced or removed orbs of light generation. supers are earned and not handed to players.
-heavy ammo spawning once a match at the 6 minute mark.
-decrease special ammo spawn timers and increase amount gained from crates, but nobody spawns with special ammo.

this would put more focus on the gun game and then supers would be used to turn the tide of a battle.

it'd also be followed by a targetted nerf to the top 3 hand cannons so that everyone doesn't just use thorn. on that account

-reduce aim assist on the last word and patch 111 glitch
-reduce aim assist on thorn and reduce mag size to 6 and replace snapshot with an extended mag option, so players have to decide between increased accuracy, perfect balance, or 9 rounds
-reduce aim assist on hawkmoon

these guns would still be top tier and out perform everything else, but they'd be harder to use.

I agree with all your changes the thing is that the exotic hand cannon nerf need to be done in PvP only. The exotic hand cannons are already basically PvP weapons anyway and with less aim assist they would be even more useless in PvE.
 
Plan to swiftly level up characters to 34

1. Complete level 32 Arena to receive Armor Core
2. Buy Armor from Varik
3. Level up an exotic armor
4. Try to complete a level 34 Arena as a level 33 and receive Etheric Light
5. Level up one armor
6. Hope for 1 more Etheric Light from Nightfall

Or if it is confirmed that all new drops from raids will be higher in light, just complete VoG and Crota fast on all 3 characters.

Boom 34.
 

todd360

Member
Oh great. Just imagined a void super for Hunters.

Activate super, see enemy several yards away, knife at him even though you're not even close, travel through a void at light speeds, reappear in front / behind / besides them, instant kill, rinse and repeat till super bar depletes or you use void strike 3 times (similar to gunslinger)

This time, I blame Naruto over DBZ.

So a hokage level super. That's op as fuck. I want in on this. Warlock arc super is like you ate the lightning lightning fruit and therefore you gain logia powers. All attack pass through you and you can see everyone on the map through your lightning infused observation haki. Can rain lightning down from the sky on everyone outdoors for a whole team instant wipe. Can shoot lightning bolts 3 times for everyone not outdoors.

Only max level toons after the next dlc can awaken Armaments haki and infuse bullets with it to hurt you during your super.
 

Lothars

Member
i'd like to see these changes made to crucible

-reduced or removed orbs of light generation. supers are earned and not handed to players.
-heavy ammo spawning once a match at the 6 minute mark.
-decrease special ammo spawn timers and increase amount gained from crates, but nobody spawns with special ammo.


this would put more focus on the gun game and then supers would be used to turn the tide of a battle.

it'd also be followed by a targetted nerf to the top 3 hand cannons so that everyone doesn't just use thorn. on that account

-reduce aim assist on the last word and patch 111 glitch
-reduce aim assist on thorn and reduce mag size to 6 and replace snapshot with an extended mag option, so players have to decide between increased accuracy, perfect balance, or 9 rounds
-reduce aim assist on hawkmoon

these guns would still be top tier and out perform everything else, but they'd be harder to use.
The changes are mostly okay but those two are terrible and would do harm to the game, I think the current special ammo change is fine and have it limited but not starting with it would be a negative as would heavy ammo only being available once per game with no drops from heavy kills.

I am also not a fan of nerfing orb generation but depends on how it was handled.
 

Impala26

Member
Being able to simply jump and aim accurately would add so much to the PVP. Leaving the ground in this game is so punishing if you're not doing the lame blink+shotgun.

I know there's a perk that makes it better in HoW, but that shit should just be game wide. It's stupid and adds nothing to the experience except limiting what kind of maneuvers you can pull off.

The game should also completely axe 6v6 and focus on 3v3 or 4v4.

Says the man with the aerial snapshot kill in the Halo 5 Beta.
:p

I agree with you though.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Another dream Warlock Arc Super...

A sword made of light like Kizaru to make Bladedancers cry.

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To me they need to have a gametype where supers are earned and focus more on gunplay, and then the current gametype.

But the gun nerfs for all gametypes and only PvP
 

Wilde

Member
Hey guys, just making plans for the night and I wanted to find out early if everyone in our weekly raid marathon squad is planning on being on tonight for reset?

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I'm down to go for our usual: 3x normal and hard gorgons, 3x normal and hard Atheon, 3x normal Deathsinger and Crota, and 3x hard Crota. Going for every exotic chance like usual, got to get that Hawkmoon!
 

Namikaze1

Member
So a hokage level super. That's op as fuck. I want in on this. Warlock arc super is like you ate the lightning lightning fruit and therefore you gain logia powers. All attack pass through you and you can see everyone on the map through your lightning infused observation haki. Can rain lightning down from the sky on everyone outdoors for a whole team instant wipe. Can shoot lightning bolts 3 times for everyone not outdoors.

Only max level toons after the next dlc can awaken Armaments haki and infuse bullets with it to hurt you during your super.
....I was gonna go with Force Lightning for a possible Arc super for Warlocks since you know, Jedi wannabes....
 
Plan to swiftly level up characters to 34

1. Complete level 32 Arena to receive Armor Core
2. Buy Armor from Varik
3. Level up an exotic armor
4. Try to complete a level 34 Arena as a level 33 and receive Etheric Light
5. Level up one armor
6. Hope for 1 more Etheric Light from Nightfall

Or if it is confirmed that all new drops from raids will be higher in light, just complete VoG and Crota fast on all 3 characters.

Boom 34.
but, what if we get an armor piece, a la Eris Morn gauntlets, for completing the story missions?
don't forget that for the equation!
 
Okay, since you're offering, what am I doing wrong? I'm sure there's plenty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A6b7KzPD2k

okay for real this time

at 5:50 you challenged the guy after he rezzed his teammate. it would have been wiser to retreat backwards and let them push you from a disadvantage unless your teammates were in position to assist you.

at 6:40, you and your teammate ran to a door in immediate view of the opponent's heavy ammo. he promptly got rocketed for giving away his position and you almost did too. this works with a bait and switch tactic, but your teammate pushed out too much. the enemy team foolishly rushed you guys in waves soon after, so it ultimately worked out for you. i probably would have flanked behind them with the heavy ammo, but you have a massive lead, so there was no reason to be aggressive.

that's really all i saw in that video. you overextended out of cover a bit when it would have been better to play closer towards an escape route, but your opponents weren't really in position to exploit that.
 
I demand a recount across the board! Everyone post their timestamp!

This would probably push me even further back. Stupid Salvage.

haha yeah, I'll certainly revise other parts of the list if anyone cares enough to post proof. But it's a safe bet I'm the only scrub silly enough to notice or care about these things :p

Are there any good destiny PvP learning videos out there?

Unstable and I had been talking about working on something like this. I know he wants to do something but would ideally want to show the maps with some kind of free-roam camera option (that doesn't exist afaik). I'm no PvP Hero like some folks around here, but I'm top 1% for wins and top 2% for win ratio on Destiny Tracker. Which counts for something I suppose.

Honestly I don't watch many Destiny YTubers since I play and hang here so much there's not a lot I can learn from them. There might be some good stuff out there already, but I imagine there's a lot of room for improvement as well. Especially for teamwork and communication, detailed stuff about map positioning and call outs, details about hit markers and TTKs for guns, etc.

I was more asking if this was a widespread issue other people experienced this weekend, because I hadn't seen this particular behavior in Crucible before.

You are much more fortunate/have a much better connection than me then, haha. I feel relieved if there isn't crazy lag nonsense in Crucible, feels more like the exception than the norm. Although I only play in Gaf teams, which usually have people all around the world and definitely might muck it up more often relative to playing solo.

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Woah, we've got a last minute dark horse candidate for OT21 title!
 

GutZ31

Member
Destiny |OT♦21| Our House, in the middle of the Reef

Edit: so titles won't be able to use any altering codes like {highlight}. Bummer :/
 
but, what if we get an armor piece, a la Eris Morn gauntlets, for completing the story missions?
don't forget that for the equation!

But those gauntlets didn't get you to max light for armor

if anyone wants to post gameplay, i'll critique it and tell you what you can improve on.

knowing where to be and how to move is as much a part of the game as what you use and how you aim. it's something you have to be conscious of even when it becomes second nature.

Would it best to post a video of how you play with a known group or with randoms
 
I have a question I have the inventice and the super good advice ready to deliver and get the weapon, if I wait for the DLC the exotics will come with the new damage?
 
The changes are mostly okay but those two are terrible and would do harm to the game, I think the current special ammo change is fine and have it limited but not starting with it would be a negative as would heavy ammo only being available once per game with no drops from heavy kills.

I am also not a fan of nerfing orb generation but depends on how it was handled.

i'm just trying to think of ways to make the game more primary focused and rooted in the movement and control of the map.

heavy looting could return but not when it's spawning 3 times a game. heavy coming up that frequently leads players to play passively and wait for their supers to recharge - at least in the 3v3 modes.
 

sploatee

formerly Oynox Slider
Look dudes. I know that you're all American and stuff and therefore it's inevitable that we won't share a sense of humour, but my top of page song was damn good. Damn damn good.


Anyone on crucible in about ten mins? Got an hour of the TV ...
 

todd360

Member
Uhh why am I not the third person on the guardian lord list now? I worked really hard to be right next to fig and nami :(

Edit: Is this some kind of warlock hate act of aggression?

Edit 2: Just saw the reasoning. I'm trying not to be salty, but its hard. I was on the team that beat flawless before the rest of gaf. I had a life and couldn't grind my last character fast :(

Did you legit look at the timestamps for everyone? That's some dedication.
 

Namikaze1

Member
So let's see:

Titan's solar = Goku's Spirit Bomb
Hunter's void = Minato's Flying Thunder God

That's all I got so far. Will think of a good one for Warlocks. Though for the time being, I'm going with Force Lightning as their arc super. Warlocks shooting lightning from their hands, said lightning able to phase through Titan bubbles, they got a less shittier version of glide in the third tier, and I can't think of anything else.
 
Hey guys, just making plans for the night and I wanted to find out early if everyone in our weekly raid marathon squad is planning on being on tonight for reset?

brn1J7O.png


I'm down to go for our usual: 3x normal and hard gorgons, 3x normal and hard Atheon, 3x normal Deathsinger and Crota, and 3x hard Crota. Going for every exotic chance like usual, got to get that Hawkmoon!
The OG team is dead D:
I have a question I have the inventice and the super good advice ready to deliver and get the weapon, if I wait for the DLC the exotics will come with the new damage?
This jailbait doll says that is correct

Look dudes. I know that you're all American and stuff and therefore it's inevitable that we won't share a sense of humour, but my top of page song was damn good. Damn damn good.


Anyone on crucible in about ten mins? Got an hour of the TV ...
Where are you from just for future references?
 

ocean

Banned
But those gauntlets didn't get you to max light for armor



Would it best to post a video of how you play with a known group or with randoms
They got as far as non raid Legendaries could go. This time around, that would mean +36 upgradeable to 42 with the fewer-bubbles upgrade path to boot. Basically a regular legendary drop, except those can go max level now.
 

Ramirez

Member
i've been saying this since the alpha, but i wonder how this would sway the population towards hunters even further. everyone would want to boost their agility so that their jump would be more effective.

unless you mean that it should extend to gliding and lifting. i'm not sure how i'd feel about players flying around with accurate sniping. sounds like Reach's Uncaged all over again.

at the very least, players should retain 100% accuracy during their first jump.

I'd rather get blained by a floating sniper than a blinking Felwinters at least.

I think you're over estimating the amount of PSN kids who could do it consistently, lol.
 

Impala26

Member
So let's see:

Titan's solar = Goku's Spirit Bomb
Hunter's void = Minato's Flying Thunder God

That's all I got so far. Will think of a good one for Warlocks. Though for the time being, I'm going with Force Lightning as their arc super. Warlocks shooting lightning from their hands, said lightning able to phase through Titan bubbles, they got a less shittier version of glide in the third tier, and I can't think of anything else.

Hard to imagine Arc Warlock super as anything but:

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I've been working 21 days in a row now and tonight will probably be my last night. I'll finally have a night off tomorrow! (at work during the day, work from home at night). But I'm stoked. The final reset, the final countdown, and I'll have time to play again. Wohoo
 

Namikaze1

Member
Uhh why am I not the third person on the guardian lord list now? I worked really hard to be right next to fig and nami :(

Edit: Is this some kind of warlock hate act of aggression?
Apparently it was historically wrong. Eh. It's just a list anyway. You'll always be third in my heart, Todd.


Wait.
 

todd360

Member
Apparently it was historically wrong. Eh. It's just a list anyway. You'll always be third in my heart, Todd.


Wait.

I thought the system was obtain lordship and post proof nami. I posted proof third because it was important to me. The people who apparently beat me didn't post proof immediately.
 

rNilla

Member
I thought the system was obtain lordship and post proof nami. I posted proof third because it was important to me. The people who apparently beat me didn't post proof immediately.

None of this would have happened if you weren't such a 360 fanboy.
 
I've been so busy to the point nothing really matters. Now that I'm not at an as-big time crunch, I'm getting fairly hyped for HoW. Just need to find a team for whenever it becomes live.
 

Lima

Member
You guys should just get in on sweaties if you want to learn something and see if you are good at PvP beyond curb stomping blueberries in a team.

And if you can't get in because you are on PS4 and the whole "competitive scene" is on Xbox give guys like Wtfisposhy, Tomcatchi, Aegabriel etc. a watch on Twitch. You can learn a lot of valuable stuff about positioning, call outs and so forth from these guys. Gives you a general idea how ToO is going to work.
 
Don't know if this has been posted but Bungie confirms no weekly activities available at reset next week.

"During the eight hours between the weekly reset and the patch download associated with the release of House of Wolves there will be no weekly, Nightfall, or daily activities available. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause."
 
You guys should just get in on sweaties if you want to learn something and see if you are good at PvP beyond curb stomping blueberries in a team.

And if you can't get in because you are on PS4 and the whole "competitive scene" is on Xbox give guys like Wtfisposhy, Tomcatchi, Aegabriel etc. a watch on Twitch. You can learn a lot of valuable stuff about positioning, call outs and so forth from these guys. Gives you a general idea how ToO is going to work.

speaking of sweaties, i watched a pick up group 3-2 invigorate in control last night. they were mad salty.

destiny's competitive scene really is only thorn + felwinter's + blink though, so that isn't going to appeal to everyone. out of 12 players, i think there was only one Gunslinger (IIsKampII) and another Striker. literally everyone else was blinking with shotgun as a Warlock or Hunter
 
okay for real this time

at 5:50 you challenged the guy after he rezzed his teammate. it would have been wiser to retreat backwards and let them push you from a disadvantage unless your teammates were in position to assist you.

at 6:40, you and your teammate ran to a door in immediate view of the opponent's heavy ammo. he promptly got rocketed for giving away his position and you almost did too. this works with a bait and switch tactic, but your teammate pushed out too much. the enemy team foolishly rushed you guys in waves soon after, so it ultimately worked out for you. i probably would have flanked behind them with the heavy ammo, but you have a massive lead, so there was no reason to be aggressive.

that's really all i saw in that video. you overextended out of cover a bit when it would have been better to play closer towards an escape route, but your opponents weren't really in position to exploit that.

Thanks. :D

I would upload a video of me playing badly, but I usually don't save them lol.
 
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