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Destiny |OT3| Oh sweet a Legen- wait never mind, it's a rare.

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I can confirm that Destiny's loot system is bullshit, but at least it worked in my favour this time:

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congrats for being terrible :)
 

Nodnol

Member
Hit level 24 today. Nearly maxed my Bladedancer; once that's done I switch over to Gunslinger before handing in Bounties to get that up too.

No Legendary items, though everything is blue and fully upgraded. Considering my chest piece is only Rare, it has like 270 armor on it. Total armor is 900, which I thought was pretty cool.

Rinsed the PvE Bounties earlier (only about 500 points away from Vanguard 2 now), farmed a bit, got some improved gear, but still no lovely purples!

I have 8 Strange Coins; should be able to get enough for some goodies from Xur at the weekend.

Tearing Vanguard Tiger Strikes apart; think I'll try and smash the Weekly Heroic with my buddies tonight.
 
Finally got my first piece of Legendary armor! Pushed me clear up to 23 :)

Sadly, it's hideous and the bonuses aren't so hot, but w/e. I'll be raiding by Friday :)
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
Just gonna put my opinion down on the PvP. Not gonna say it's outright bad because it isn't and some of you may love it the way it is at the moment. But here's my thoughts.

It's too much of a cluster fuck for my liking. Here's a list of the things capable of killing you in one hit:

Shotgun
Fusion Rifle
Sniper Rifle
Supers (which usually each player gets 2-3 a game)

Also grenades do crazy damage.

IMO the multiplayer is amazing when you can actually manage a 1v1 gun fight, it's just these moments are few and far between. Most of my deaths are from just rounding corners and BAM. Dead.

If I could change things the way I wanted...

1. I'd lower the amount of supers per match. The meter would regenerate way slower.
2. Grenades would do less damage
3. Shotguns would be nerfed to the way they were in the beta.
4. Assault Rifles would be nerfed. Atm I feel handicapped when I'm not using one

Basically. Make it more about gunfights/skill. Less other stuff.
It is about gunfights and skill. People complaining about shotguns need to make the same effort to stay away from shotgun range as the people using them make to get into shotgun range.

And the only reason ARs are everywhere is because they're easy to use and reliable. If more people could actually aim, you'd see more complaints about crossmap SR dropping people in 4 hits Pulse Rifles in sometimes 3, and Hand Cannons with 1 shot anywhere and a head shot to follow.

Grenades can't even 1hit kill anyone unless its a sticky. Its right on par with any other halo game and honestly some of them could deserve a buff (skip, swarm grenades in particular)

Like I said earlier, there's no point in ever taking a corner hard when the radar lights up a like Christmas tree anytime someone is even two rooms out - and if you're going to hit the corner anyways? JUMP come around it high and you've already stretched the range of the encounter past the shotguns 1hk range and put the other guy on his heels trying to find you.

Also, anytime someone wastes a super on you out of panic and kills just you and no one else - you WON. You won HARD. That means that they're not creating orbs for the rest of their team and you know they're gonna be out of trump cards for a long, long time. Take the death and move on. Its not like you're getting kill-streaks in this game so keep it moving and be sure to stomp them out when you see them next time.

tl;dr git gud and realize that destiny isn't Halo, Killzone, or CoD. Play it like the game it is.
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
At least two raid streamers are stuck in the same location; at that one shiny boss...whatever his name is.

Saw one group hit the enrage at 50% boss health.
I think people are way too undergeared for that fight.
They need to gear up and go back at 28 or 29.
 

shwimpy

Member
Can someone please explain to me the point of grinding patrols? Other than doing bounties, what do people grind patrols for? The loot? The public events? Thanks.
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
To me they are seemingly dying at random. The raids look super confusing with all the teleporting as whatnot

You see these mechanics introduced in the earlier boss fights. They are just combined here.

Once you understand what the mobs do, it is pretty clear what they are getting killed by.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
While we're on the topic of PvP, allow me to repost some questions I wrote up last night that didn't get answered:

- How much does gear matter? I find myself unloading charged up fusion blasts, multiple rounds from pulse rifles, and two shotgun bursts without being to kill some opponents, yet I find myself being absolutely murdered in literally three bullets from a pulse rifle, for example. What gives? Does the Armor stat matter, too? If it does (along with gear), why would anyone choose to play a non-Titan class?

- What is up with these white shields? Seems incredibly unfair for some people to have them and others to not. I've never got a piece of gear that gives me extra shields so far.

- What does match making take into consideration? I just did a Skirmish where it was me (lv. 20), a lv. 8, and another lv. 20 guy up against a lv. 26 and two lv. 24 players. They absolutely brutally stomped us. Like 4k to 1k score. I stay in the matchmaking, and... it's the exact same teams the next match! Yes, please. I'd love another ass-handing while I waste 10 minutes of my life in exchange for a tiny faction experience boost.
 

Strider

Member
It is about gunfights and skill. People complaining about shotguns need to make the same effort to stay away from shotgun range as the people using them make to get into shotgun range.

And the only reason ARs are everywhere is because they're easy to use and reliable. If more people could actually aim, you'd see more complaints about crossmap SR dropping people in 4 hits Pulse Rifles in sometimes 3, and Hand Cannons with 1 shot anywhere and a head shot to follow.

Grenades can't even 1hit kill anyone unless its a sticky. Its right on par with any other halo game and honestly some of them could deserve a buff (skip, swarm grenades in particular)

Like I said earlier, there's no point in ever taking a corner hard when the radar lights up a like Christmas tree anytime someone is even two rooms out - and if you're going to hit the corner anyways? JUMP come around it high and you've already stretched the range of the encounter past the shotguns 1hk range and put the other guy on his heels trying to find you.

Also, anytime someone wastes a super on you out of panic and kills just you and no one else - you WON. You won HARD. That means that they're not creating orbs for the rest of their team and you know they're gonna be out of trump cards for a long, long time. Take the death and move on. Its not like you're getting kill-streaks in this game so keep it moving and be sure to stomp them out when you see them next time.

tl;dr git gud and realize that destiny isn't Halo, Killzone, or CoD. Play it like the game it is.

I already do every tip you just mentioned...I'm quite good at the multiplayer. Just speaking my thoughts.

I'll really only comment on one thing you mentioned, the shotgun. My suggestion to nerf the shotgun to what it was in the beta isn't necessarily bc I think they are crazy OP... It's because they were fine in the beta since you can just shotgun-melee combo, and a slight nerf could bring about more variety.
 
I think you're right. However, farming Glimmer to boost the Cryptarch's rank is probably very helpful to make sure those higher level engram drops get turned into higher level gear. So some amount of farming would be beneficial for this purpose, at least.

You're right of course, but when you're stuck at lvl 21 or 22, it's not the most productive use of your time. You're better off focusing on getting yourself to 24 or 25 first. At that point, your random straight drops will be higher level (at 24 even your "trash" greens will likely be 19-20 which means better chance at higher groups of mats when you destroy them) and you'll be more likely to get Blue and Purple engrams.
 

bitoriginal

Member
It's telling me I don't meet the requirements for PVP, what's this shit about? I do have playstation plus, and I've been playing all week.

Edit: restarted ps4,its working now.
 
Soooo seems I missed the part about this being on xbox and ps3 as well as next gen, so as im pretty out of touch when it comes to games these days, is the game linked on one set of servers or is it platform by platform servers?
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
I want to get a raid group going at 7:30 PM Pacific tonight on XB1. PM if you're interested!
 

Zephyrus

Banned
The crucible changed for the better for me once I got a good auto rifle.

it's by far the best type of weapon in the game.

Hate using my handgun where I'm only dealing headshots, a guy turns aroudn spray's me and we either both die or he wins. And I don't miss a shot.
 

rugioh

Banned
Can someone please explain to me the point of grinding patrols? Other than doing bounties, what do people grind patrols for? The loot? The public events? Thanks.

Vanguard Rep. If you sit around the right areas when the public events pop you get marks on top of that.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Just logged in, and my Vanguard and Crucible Marks are gone? What? Am I missing something?
Check your inventory. You might be seeing your weekly cap and not the actual currency you have.
 

Juraash

Member
Has anyone snagged shaders from chests or out in the world? I've found ships and engrams up to legendary in a chest, but I really don't know the best way to track down shaders. The vendor in the tower hasn't really been very cooperative about rotating her stock.
 
Has ANYONE validated somehow that this actually happens?

Well aside from the fact that leveling the Crypto gives you free engrams in the mail, it stands to reason that a higher level Crypto gives you better odds at getting the relevant rarity or better when decrypting. Otherwise, there's no real point to him having more than one or two levels.
 
Well aside from the fact that leveling the Crypto gives you free engrams in the mail, it stands to reason that a higher level Crypto gives you better odds at getting the relevant rarity or better when decrypting. Otherwise, there's no real point to him having more than one or two levels.

I haven't noticed any difference and my cryptarch is level 11
 

jiiikoo

Banned
I'm going pretty much insane here. Did the temple of crota farming or what the hell it is called for an hour. I had an inventory full of fucking rare engrams and all I got was strange coins, shaders and level 16-20 rares. Fuck you Bungie. I think I'm done with this game.
 
Has anyone snagged shaders from chests or out in the world? I've found ships and engrams up to legendary in a chest, but I really don't know the best way to track down shaders. The vendor in the tower hasn't really been very cooperative about rotating her stock.

I saw someone on my team in the Crucible get one as a reward last night.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
While we're on the topic of PvP, allow me to repost some questions I wrote up last night that didn't get answered:

- How much does gear matter? I find myself unloading charged up fusion blasts, multiple rounds from pulse rifles, and two shotgun bursts without being to kill some opponents, yet I find myself being absolutely murdered in literally three bullets from a pulse rifle, for example. What gives? Does the Armor stat matter, too? If it does (along with gear), why would anyone choose to play a non-Titan class?

- What is up with these white shields? Seems incredibly unfair for some people to have them and others to not. I've never got a piece of gear that gives me extra shields so far.

- What does match making take into consideration? I just did a Skirmish where it was me (lv. 20), a lv. 8, and another lv. 20 guy up against a lv. 26 and two lv. 24 players. They absolutely brutally stomped us. Like 4k to 1k score. I stay in the matchmaking, and... it's the exact same teams the next match! Yes, please. I'd love another ass-handing while I waste 10 minutes of my life in exchange for a tiny faction experience boost.
A lot of people blame gear when they should be blaming lag. Gear doesn't matter as much as people think it does (especially low level players - their abilities recharge at a faster rate I think. discipline,strength, etc boosting their recharge times on a different scale)

also, some weapons handle differently. i had the biggest discussion with a friend of mine today about weapons only to realize that he had no idea that you have to lead your targets with the fusion rifle. you can essentially 'drag' the FR to spread the blast with it. there are plenty of nuances like that in the game. the trigger squeeze being a noticeable deal for some weapons as well.

about shields... yeah, some of it does have a definite advantage in terms of the added perks - but its no different than a level 20 sizing up a 6th prestige guy in CoD. They're not Gods by any means. Just stack the deck in your favor and use your map awareness to not be in positions where you're in a fair fight with those guys while they're supercharged. (even then, a few more shots kill them just as easy). those aren't usually gear related though.

armor/restoration/agility DO matter, but having high armor and no speed means you're just an easier target while you're alive in on spot. and good luck chasing anyone or anything down on top of that. i ran basically pure speed builds with my blade dancer and straight crushed people because i could hop in, fight, hop out and regen, then hop back in faster than anyone else.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
Just logged in, and my Vanguard and Crucible Marks are gone? What? Am I missing something?
definitely missing something. Be more specific? The cap reset, which means you can continue earning them again. Any you had previously earned are safely tucked away in your inventory
 

Juraash

Member
I'm going pretty much insane here. Did the temple of crota farming or what the hell it is called for an hour. I had an inventory full of fucking rare engrams and all I got was strange coins, shaders and level 16-20 rares. Fuck you Bungie. I think I'm done with this game.

But you can use strange coins to buy exotics from the weekend vendor. Those are probably more valuable than any piece of rare/blue gear. A healthy stack of those could net you some nice upgrade come Friday. Not that I don't understand the frustration, but coins are a nice net overall imo.
 
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