AmateurHour212
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What is everyone using for their primary, all-purpose weapon these days (auto/scout/etc)?
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It becomes an endless loop of upgrading gear to its maximum potential through upgrades and getting gear that will become an upgrade through farming mats.
Admittedly I'm a little concerned with how much grinding it will take just to max out one piece of legendary/exotic gear that could be replaced. Any loot game I've played before didn't need such a heavy investment in a single piece like this and I could see myself getting a bit disoriented in the near future...I'll wait and see though.
Praise RNGesus!
backflip10019
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Auto rifle -- Shingen-E specifically, since I can't find anything better (though the Shingen-E is pretty great).
The Lamonster
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Admiral Woofington
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Once I get an exotic auto rifle I'll probably use that as my main all-purpose. Until then I have
PvP: AR
PvE: Hand Cannon.
the game doesn't tell you anything. What you have to do not look at the higher number on your armor and weapons but look at the ability. For example if you use handcannon alot, your armor pieces should have faster reload for handcannon and more ammo for it.
And you should have all 3 element weapon types in your invenyory. Void, arc and fire. Once your 20, you should get more high lvl blue weapons n things. Its about knowing your build.
BUT if you have joined a faction, built it to rank 2 and get the stuff there to match your play style. Look at the stats and buy what you use mostly. And then upgrade them. For example dead orbit gives you high strength and dicipline which I was looking for.
MidEvlDed
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The Destiny app definitely shows you. Not sure of any other ways.
super-famicom
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Hmm, I think it'll take me longer. I'm a Hunter and only have a void shotgun. I did get +54 in two Rumble matches last night, so I think if I go in with a fire team, I should be okay. It's just so frustrating. I'd rather kill 1000 Fallen or Vex with void damage instead.
I like the hand cannon because of dat impact rating.
MonkeyDLuffy
Banned
I constantly go back and forth between love and hate in this game. Let me just ask my questions here that I've been asking myself and people I've played with for the past week.
Why are people with auto rifles killing me SO DAMN FAST? It's like if I'm in a firefight, I'm dead every time. Without fail. Even though I have a gun with a ton of damage (does that count in multiplayer?) and am shooting them right in the head, they'll kill me first. I watch streams of people playing and none seem to have the same problem.
Despite this, I'm able to mostly succeed because the game isn't about shooting in the traditional sense. Using my powers and sneaking around, I am able to win matches (with my team) for the most part. But then, some powers seem better than others. These people teleporting all over the map lately are the cheapest things in the world. The Titan bubble thing just makes the entire team invincible. And then some people seem to have grenades that cause damage for a year after they've been killed, while mine just pop and fizzle right away.
I guess my point is that after so many hours of playing, I still don't know what's making me fail as a player and it's driving me nuts. I don't know why my guns aren't as powerful as other people. I don't know why my magic seems weaker. And yet I can't stop playing it for hours at a time.
Why are people with auto rifles killing me SO DAMN FAST? It's like if I'm in a firefight, I'm dead every time. Without fail. Even though I have a gun with a ton of damage (does that count in multiplayer?) and am shooting them right in the head, they'll kill me first. I watch streams of people playing and none seem to have the same problem.
Despite this, I'm able to mostly succeed because the game isn't about shooting in the traditional sense. Using my powers and sneaking around, I am able to win matches (with my team) for the most part. But then, some powers seem better than others. These people teleporting all over the map lately are the cheapest things in the world. The Titan bubble thing just makes the entire team invincible. And then some people seem to have grenades that cause damage for a year after they've been killed, while mine just pop and fizzle right away.
I guess my point is that after so many hours of playing, I still don't know what's making me fail as a player and it's driving me nuts. I don't know why my guns aren't as powerful as other people. I don't know why my magic seems weaker. And yet I can't stop playing it for hours at a time.
Jest Chillin
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Your character level matters more than your Attack up until the point where you're fighting enemies of the same level as the game lowers your damage amount for every level higher the enemies you fight are.
Whether or not the costs are worth it is hard to say. Every little bit of Attack and Defense does help but on gear that's anything less than Legendary, there's always the chance that you'll invest in it and then find something better right after, so it's a judgement call in that regard.
HawksWinStanley
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Been doing the best with Scout or Hand Cannon.
It seems like I see people mostly using Autos though.
KINGofCRA5H
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Right, because the Titan's invulnerable mode and Hunter's bladedancer is fair and balanced. Be thankful your super isn't interruptable like the Warlocks is
For me, something like the Skyrim or Minecraft help menus would go a long ways. They each have a deep list of topics that explains in simple terms what the various systems in the game are. I think that alone would get me over the hump.
Myoclonic Jerk
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OMG look what I just got from the crucible
Didn't get a legendary item yet but two of those today
Didn't get a legendary item yet but two of those today
backflip10019
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yeah, all legendaried out
Damn. You win.
Definitely.
I think Bungie was really smelling their farts when it comes to certain design decisions. I can sort of understand the weapon/shield stuff - but that's still no reason to just not explain certain weapon features (a big one being stability/recoil).
I have that same AR. It's good but the stability sucks until you upgrade it. I can't decide if it's good for PvP compared to the Shingens.
Admiral Woofington
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1. Multiplayer for now doesn't have level advantage, so it normalizes damage of all weapons to a standard of their basic stats.
2. Shingen-E is most likely the AR you're getting killed by. Just go with that once you find one.
3. Blink and Titan shield need to have some kind of longer cooldown if not a nerf to their skills. At least for PvP.
I would highly recommend a void machine gun if you can get one. It did soooo much work for me, but yeah I had a shotgun too. But blink+melee, supers, etc...I was basically what everyone hates.
Northeastmonk
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Someone beat the raid.
I don't know if that's the equivalent to Diablo on Inferno Hardcore, but it sure beats the stretch.
https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/511972115776425984/photo/1
I don't know if that's the equivalent to Diablo on Inferno Hardcore, but it sure beats the stretch.
The Lamonster
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IMO you are going to overwhelm Ghal. No one <20 should worry about having all three damage types across all of their weapons yet. Also, say he uses the hand cannon a lot right now and specs all his gear to buff hand cannons, it'd be kind of a waste considering that teen-level hand cannon is just going to be replaced in a few hours with something more powerful.
Ghal - my advice is to keep doing what you're doing. Look at "requires" levels and rarity level when deciding whether to replace gear. Don't spend weapon parts or other materials besides glitter on upgrading weapons because they are just going to be replaced. Once you hit 20 start aiming for purple legendary gear and level those up. THEN take Dante's advice
KINGofCRA5H
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Someone actually finished the raid
http://www.bungie.net/en/Legend/PGCR/2/4611686018428395824/2305843009214884105/132307271?_
http://www.bungie.net/en/Legend/PGCR/2/4611686018428395824/2305843009214884105/132307271?_
Byron Bluth
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I wonder what their loot haul was?
Rumble.
Right now I'm using a rare Regulator hand cannon w 11 shots, a range boost while ADS, two available damage upgrades I haven't leveled yet, AND a magazine upgrade I haven't leveled yet.
Twilight Gap
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no, those aren't either. everything is unbalanced or overpowered except gunslinger.
That's Datto right?
Lighthouse
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Msg sent. Dontbrickmebro on psn
Admiral Woofington
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If it really requires you to invest as much time as it does I would hope Bungie at least lets you choose what you want as a reward from a list. Like say "choose from these armor pieces and these weapons". But it's probably RNGesus. Like always.
Sunbros only get better damage resistance and can spam grenades relatively fast. I mean I guess they could also revive from the dead, but that would take away damage resistance.
zero margin
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you a hunter out of curiosity? because bladedancer is the most broken thing in pvp BY FAR.
Northeastmonk
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no , but not his group. May be his clan. I have no idea. I saw him in the Furchten, which may be part of PrimeGuard.
super-famicom
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Hand Cannon or Scout Rifle.
I vastly prefer dealing with those than I do Blink. Blink even sounds annoying. That sucking sound when someone uses it drives me crazy.
Jest Chillin
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AR's kill quickly because they can put a lot of bullets down range very quickly. With levels normalized in PvP, it's the secondary stats that are the most valuable. Higher Impact will do more damage per bullet but if the gun has a high rate of fire and the shooter is accurate, they can drop you quite quickly.
Dealing with players using Blink is a trial and error thing until you get more experience. The opening minutes of a match, you'll have to somewhat study the opponents behavior in order to learn their tendencies and anticipate who will use those kinds of things and when. Then you have to adapt your playstyle to counter theirs.
As for grenades, just take a look at your grenade options and experiment with the different types and find which one works best for your playstyle. Some grenades types are better for zoning (preventing other players from pushing forward or moving backwards) while others are better for direct attack as they stick to the player and do more damage immediately.
no , but not his group.
that K/D is terrifying
holy fuck i want no part of that shit lmao
Admiral Woofington
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Nope. A Sunbro Warlock. I've killed my fair amount of bladedancers by jumping into the air with a strong weapon and freezing in midair to aim at them.
Personally shield titans are the worst for me because the amount of damage resistance they get shouldn't be that big for that long.
That wasn't even Hard tier lol
zero margin
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alright then, your words have value lol
super-famicom
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This hand cannon is pretty sweet. It's just a rare but it has 242 attack when leveled up, has an 8 round magazine, and explosive rounds. It's great in PvE.
Silvered Maverick Mk. 41
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That is what I use. I love it. I can either have explosive rounds or insanely fast reloads on it, but not both. Its other skill is "kills increase reload speed for a brief time."
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