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DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
So why can't I get matched with people in my own level? Why am I constantly facing off against max levels in PvP?

Is matchmaking that hard to do?

It wouldn't matter imo

I think the game needs player skill based rankings more than anything else.
 

Hubbl3

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBLKzesxkKU

Has anybody tried this farming spot? I've basically given up on farming but if people say it's better than say the first moon mission farming then I'll consider it.

Yeah man, I've been working this area for a couple of hours now. Tons of greens drop and quite a few blues drop, but I've yet to find a legendary item. I've gotten lots of strange coins and motes of lights though.

And I finally made level 22 today! My god it's been a slog trying to find good enough equipment to gain light-levels. I guess "Vault of Glass" also just opened up for me, but I don't think I'll be dealing with that just yet...
 
So why can't I get matched with people in my own level? Why am I constantly facing off against max levels in PvP?

Is matchmaking that hard to do?

Matchmaking really sucks in this game. Last night I kept getting put into teams of idiots, constantly getting the most points out of everyone on my team and losing every match.

I keep thinking, "give it time, matchmaking systems need some data before they are able to balance teams," but isn't a week enough?

Also really annoyed about the melee death delay thing.
 

Cømet

Banned
To add to my question earlier for those it may be useful to- Archers line is definitely the way to go for helium coils. Tonnes o gas!


The Lamonster said:
Matchmaking really sucks in this game. Last night I kept getting put into teams of idiots, constantly getting the most points out of everyone on my team and losing every match.

I keep thinking, "give it time, matchmaking systems need some data before they are able to balance teams," but isn't a week enough?

I've had that experience with every FPS going though. I accepted a long time ago that the W/L ratio is gonna be shit unless you only play with fireteams, and that your personal K/D is the only thing worth worrying about. And having fun :p

Teams of idiots and shotgun campers are what ruined call of duty for me forever.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
bungie hyped it up like people wouldn't figure it out until friday. or at least, that's what i anticipated.

again

these guys went a full day straight of nothing but trial and error. these guys treated it like their job

how much of the player base is even capable of that?
 

MidEvlDed

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When people are level 50 or something like that then maybe it will be possible? I remember when I did the moon strike at level 12 and it took forever. Went back and did it at 24 to complete a bounty and it barely took 10 minutes.
 
Matchmaking really sucks in this game. Last night I kept getting put into teams of idiots, constantly getting the most points out of everyone on my team and losing every match.

I keep thinking, "give it time, matchmaking systems need some data before they are able to balance teams," but isn't a week enough?

Also really annoyed about the melee death delay thing.

You really need to play with friends, or at least a team. I had been going in with one buddy for a while and getting rocked by other teams. But last night I played with a team of 4 and we absolutely dominated. It was great.
 
I'm still kinda lost on some of the damage types. I've noticed that higher-ranking enemies (or at least their shields) can resist regular bullet damage, is there a type of damage that does work on them?

look at the shield color they have. Look at the special/heavy weapon color.

Purple beats purple
Blue beats blue
Orange/yellow beats orange/yellow

It's as simple as that. It isn't that big of a deal until you're gonna attempt say the night strike, weekly event, or the Raid where you want to have different weapons with you that do different damage.
 
Ah I see. Do you think the raid could be done with 2 people? What about less than 6 in general?

I watched a few earlier today, and I don't think it's possible. There's always the need for someone to be shooting the boss while someone else takes out grunts that can one-shot you, and another person clears the void. Really can't be done with less than 6.
 

X-Frame

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So now everyone is going to be patrolling in Skywatch? Awesome, I love that area and many times whenever the huge battle or Warsat events drop I'm by myself.

Also, be sure to kick the crap out of the Hallowed Ogre or Knight down in the cave. The ??? guy from the alpha/beta.
 

VE3TRO

Formerly Gizmowned
My god finished 5 bounties in the past hour, time to get 500 rep on Vanguard. Then I need to do another 3 possibly 4 then I'm level 2 Vanguard and start buying some Legendary gear.
 
You really need to play with friends, or at least a team. I had been going in with one buddy for a while and getting rocked by other teams. But last night I played with a team of 4 and we absolutely dominated. It was great.
Well I just got accepted into the GAF Central 3 clan...maybe that will help.
 
When people are level 50 or something like that then maybe it will be possible? I remember when I did the moon strike at level 12 and it took forever. Went back and did it at 24 to complete a bounty and it barely took 10 minutes.

Is there even a level 50?
 
If I say I suck at PvP it would be the biggest understatement of the decade


I'm a fucking joke.. level 10s rape me like a sitting duck.. I can't aim shit, I get killed in one blow! wtf?

I'm level 20 btw and I think I have semi-decent equipment

Ditto. But I've been getting better. It's a completely different mindset from PvE. I rule PvE (or so I'd like to think), but PvP is more unpredictable obviously and therefore it takes longer to "learn" a good strategy. Sometimes in PvE you can just hop in, move around, melee, get distance, rinse and repeat. PvP you have to maintain distance and be more "cunning" in your thought process. Unfortunately, practice makes perfect. So, be prepared to shit the bed a LOT before things get better. But they will, promise.
 
Question guys:

Sometimes when doing a mission (like the weekly strike that I'm trying to do now) with a random teammate, the teammate will disintegrate and leave me alone to press on alone. This tends to happen right before entering a new area; especially right before entering those "Respawn restricted" zones.

Why does this happen? Am I supposed to do the missions alone or something?
 
Question guys:

Sometimes when doing a mission (like the weekly strike that I'm trying to do now) with a random teammate, the teammate will disintegrate and leave me alone to press on alone. This tends to happen right before entering a new area; especially right before entering those "Respawn restricted" zones.

Why does this happen? Am I supposed to do the missions alone or something?

Those are "instanced" zones meaning you are in your own little bubble with your fireteam.

Are you guys sure there'll be a couple years? Seems like most people really hate all the hours and hours and they've put into the game.
Yes, the servers will still be live in a couple years and the level cap will have been raised. Is that what you mean?
 
again

these guys went a full day straight of nothing but trial and error. these guys treated it like their job

how much of the player base is even capable of that?

part of the 'challenge' bungie advertised was that people had to figure out how to beat it. 12 hours to figure it out isn't much for the only raid that will be around for a few months.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
breh. 12 hours of gametime on one event is insane. i don't know how you can say anything otherwise.
Why does it feel like some people have much stronger shields than me in Crucible?

some people invest in their armor ratings over recovery and agility
 
So I was farming the Skywatch Cave and a message appeared. "Enemies are fighting between them" or something like that. I have the game in Spanish, so I don't know.

Well, enemies started spawning, and spawning, and spawning. Wizards, Knights, Shanks and then everyone was elite enemies with yellow health bars and stuff.

What is this? Is an anti-farming thing?

It's an event that can trigger randomly where the two sides fighting each other suddenly mob up and throw all kinds of firepower at one another. This also happens on Venus near the Ishtar Academy in the area with Fallen fighting it out with Vex. Never saw a spot on the Moon like that and haven't been to Mars yet, but where you have two enemy factions fighting one another I'd bet similar events can trigger. It's pretty fun to get in the mix of all that, imo.


So is Skywatch better than first moon mission?

Honestly, YMMV with both but I found that the Moon is much more my jam, particularly given that you can rank up kills fairly quickly. Great for bounties whose counter don't reset if you die.


Hmmm. I just wish the public events let you know exactly where it is. Might as well go there though thanks for the heads up. I think the PE's give you less marks there but if they're more frequent might as well go

Isn't that what happens though? When a PE is inbound a marker pops up on the map showing you where it's at. As far as what parts of the map they spawn at, it isn't random AFAIK. E.g. a WarSat PE will spawn in Skywatch, a Walker PE spawns in the open area in the Divide, Mining Crew PE spawns in that area slightly to the right of where you first spawn on Patrol in Old Russia, etc... No clue as to spawn rates, but the type of PE spawned is pretty consistent.


that K/D is terrifying

holy fuck i want no part of that shit lmao

I'm contemplating glitching into that area to get the lay of the land a bit before running it with some friends this coming weekend. But yeah, that K/D is crazy. Gonna need to gitgud.
 

Vidpixel

Member
This game is a jerk. Of course, as soon as I reach Vanguard rank 2 and purchase a Legendary chest piece, I find another Legendary chest piece a mission later.
 

ocean

Banned
Question guys:

Sometimes when doing a mission (like the weekly strike that I'm trying to do now) with a random teammate, the teammate will disintegrate and leave me alone to press on alone. This tends to happen right before entering a new area; especially right before entering those "Respawn restricted" zones.

Why does this happen? Am I supposed to do the missions alone or something?

Those Darkness Areas will remove other players in your world instance unless they happen to be in your Fireteam. You can point at a player (as if you'd shoot him) and use R3+Options to either join his Fireteam or invite him to your own before you reach those areas.

Unless you're way over the suggested level, the darkness zones will be pretty tough solo.
 

doomquake

Member
When people are level 50 or something like that then maybe it will be possible? I remember when I did the moon strike at level 12 and it took forever. Went back and did it at 24 to complete a bounty and it barely took 10 minutes.

ive come so close to getting the bounty for not dying...2 times i fell off the stairs for no reason other than being lost or not knowing where im jumping. so it can't be that hard... cant you just do a level 12 raid with level 20s..
 

Afrocious

Member
part of the 'challenge' bungie advertised was that people had to figure out how to beat it. 12 hours to figure it out isn't much for the only raid that will be around for a few months.

At least it's better than The Old Republic not having an added raid/operation for a whole year.
 

DY_nasty

NeoGAF's official "was this shooting justified" consultant
Come again? I thought it was all balanced out in Crucible?

no

equipment attributes such as defense rating is balanced out. armor rating, recovery rate, agility - all of those things are in the skills of your subclass. they have an impact. its nothing that'll make you a god among men, but you can definitely change things to better suit your playstyle. some people prefer to be the equivalent of a walking tank. it has its perks. speed does too.
 

MidEvlDed

Member
Question guys:

Sometimes when doing a mission (like the weekly strike that I'm trying to do now) with a random teammate, the teammate will disintegrate and leave me alone to press on alone. This tends to happen right before entering a new area; especially right before entering those "Respawn restricted" zones.

Why does this happen? Am I supposed to do the missions alone or something?

There's no matchmaking for the weekly strike, which doesn't make any sense. So if you don't have a team already, you have to go forward alone.
 
Heroic story missions don't grant rewards at the end?

once you do it once you never get any rewards from them. Imho that's silly, I'd rather do quick story missions that give you 5 marks each time than a fucking raid that takes 20-30 minutes for 6 marks each. I think I might genuinely just start farming for spinmetal in rocket yard as my way to get marks/glimmer.
 

Cømet

Banned
If any of you slide/shotgun I hate your face

Do is it count if I do it with an AR? :D


So now everyone is going to be patrolling in Skywatch? Awesome, I love that area and many times whenever the huge battle or Warsat events drop I'm by myself.

Also, be sure to kick the crap out of the Hallowed Ogre or Knight down in the cave. The ??? guy from the alpha/beta.

There's a level 20 ogre at the open area where you beat the wizard from the moon in the alpha, just over the side of a seeming cliff that actually has a lower ledge, a room and a dead ghost in it. I just laughed when the ogre appeared, took seconds to obliterate.
 

Zomba13

Member
Why does it feel like some people have much stronger shields than me in Crucible?

Maybe they are speccing for Toughness/Armour rather than Recovery or Agility? I've noticed at least Agility does make a difference (faster to reach "top speed", more jump height, faster gliding and stuff) so I assume Toughness also works in PVP and gives more health or shields.
 
Yes, the servers will still be live in a couple years and the level cap will have been raised. Is that what you mean?

I was just joking. Sometimes I worry though that there won't be a long life for this incredible game after so many people have been disappointed for it.

Keeps me up at night.

Along with the emanating radness from my Legendary Exodus Greaves.
 
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