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Destiny |OT3| Oh sweet a Legen- wait never mind, it's a rare.

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Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
This is by far the best guide I've read so far on being level 20+ it's comprehensive, straight forward and not patronizing in any way.

It needs to be in the OP as a permanent fixture.

Kudos to Hawkian for explaining it all.
Thank you! The crazy thing is that even though there are a huge number of people getting upset about the loot drops, I'm really kind of digging this system when played as intended. Once you have your vendor Rank up (I've got 2 in Vanguard and am about to hit 2 in Crucible) your options reallllly open up, all with no RNG necessary.
I'm definitely team rep and marks
There aren't teams! Farming is simply not intended as an avenue toward gearing up in this game.

There's nothing wrong with farming, and it gets you gobs of useful stuff even without a single legendary drop. Certain kinds of it I honestly even find fun- the core gameplay in this game is just that wonderful. But it's just not a viable method of gearing up especially in terms of Light. The odds are so heavily stacked against you with legendary engrams! Everybody needs to understand this. Even if you have heard people say that "it works," these anecdotes can't affect your personal rolls against the loot table.

Consider 4 hours of farming one spot. Because of RNG you could:
-Not get any Legendary engrams at all
-Get a legendary engram, but have it turn into a blue (most likely)
-Get a legendary engram, but have it turn into a currency (handy, but definitely not what you're looking for)
-Get a legendary engram, but have it turn into a purple/exotic weapon (no Light)
-Get a legendary engram, but have it turn into an armor piece for another class (after clearing the "armor piece" roll, 66% chance of this happening)

All of those are individually more likely than getting a Legendary/Exotic armor piece than you need, but taken together it's like counting on one ticket to 6 simultaenous lottos. It's just not good.

edit: And of course in those 4 hours, you could have earned hundreds of points of Reputation, dozens of marks, still had plenty of random rolls from strike mobs/clears or pvp matches....

Again I have nothing against farming, it's farming for the specific purpose of advancing in gear that is a losing game.

Destiny is a game for the patient. All the design decisions are geared towards finding things out yourself and progressing slowly.
Highly accurate.

24 hours and 1 legendary, but I am starting to feel the drop rate is just fine. It is not near as bad as Diablo was (put near 200 hours before my first legendary) I can sort of see what they are trying to do with gear in this game.
Yeah, it's a really different approach. I have had no legendary drops, but if I happen to get one tonight at say 9pm, that will be the 4th legendary item I own in about 36 hours of play.
Does showstopper instakill? Or close to it? Never actually used it in PVP.
Close to it sounds about right. I've definitely killed two people at once with it but I have no clue if either of them were at full health. Basically it's a perfect followup if your first slice puts you between two people at close range.
 

JohnIIVII

Member
On xbox one here. Should be level 26
maybe 27
by tomorrow night. If anyone needs another for a weekly strike or raid this weekend add me. Will be on all day saturday. GT - CruxII7
 

Tawpgun

Member
If you wanna knock 2 out with one throw just do the Daily mission on Venus. Plenty of Fallen majors there and you complete the daily.
 
So in terms of Rare Armor "level", from worst to best is it:
Knight Type 3>Knight Type 2>Knight Type 3?

I want to use Hawk's guide but want to make sure I'm running the best possible Rare Gear.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
I've played a ton of this game via remote play (Finished the Moon strike mission last night on it), and it's amazing. I'm still in awe of how well it works.
 

Wallach

Member
So those loyalty gifts I've been reading about.

Do you get them for getting to vanguard/crucible rank 3 too? Or is it just the factions?

I was sent a legendary sniper rifle and something else when I hit rank 3 Vanguard. It also gave me a new bounty to go get sniper kills in the Crucible (which I declined and later dismantled the sniper). I will probably hit rank 4 on Friday and see if it sends stuff every rank, but I suspect it does like the Cryptarch.

On a side note I have decided it would also be acceptable if Xur has The Armamentarium instead of Helm of Saint-14 tomorrow.
 

Alucrid

Banned
soon...

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PSYGN

Member
Both are viable. I'd say that if you're going with Stalker for on-demand invis, faster recharge gives you a lot of flexibility with Blink Strike to have it up almost whenever you need it. However, in tougher/above-your-level PvE content, sustained melee is NOT an option, so I'd swap back to the invis.

Ludicrous. Invisibility drops you off radar in PvP. PvP is massively about radar and positioning. It's huge.

Vanish is the one thing I can't recommend. Showstopper is too good an R2.

Wait, how does invisibility work? Is it a timed ability or do you stay off the radar the entire time? I'm a noob, sorry.
 

SharkJAW

Member
Wait, how does invisibility work? Is it a timed ability or do you stay off the radar the entire time? I'm a noob, sorry.
You're invisible, physically and radar-wise, temporarily. Think stealth vandals. There's a skill that extends it, but as it stands, I believe the "crouch or blink strike, turn invisible" lasts around 5-8 seconds, just enough time to catch someone by surprise if your radar shows someone nearby. It does have a cool down and a start up period, though.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
So in terms of Rare Armor "level", from worst to best is it:
Knight Type 3>Knight Type 2>Knight Type 3?

I want to use Hawk's guide but want to make sure I'm running the best possible Rare Gear.
Wait I'm sorry, can you clarify? I have no idea what you mean by Knight Type o.o
Wait, how does invisibility work? Is it a timed ability or do you stay off the radar the entire time? I'm a noob, sorry.
While invisible (you, you know, actually look invisible) you don't appear on radar. Using a gun, melee, or Blink :)''''() take you out of stealth.
 

Afrocious

Member
Question about stats:

I only have two pieces of legendary armor and some maxed out lv 20 blues. My Intelligence is at 100% while the other two hover at around 30%. I'm going to focus on INT/DIS, but I'm finding it way too easy to get my stats the way I want them and still have some STR to boot.

Anyone else finding it easy to get 100% of a stat?
 

BraXzy

Member
I really really really want an Exotic/Legendary Auto Rifle. I won't have enough crucible marka till after this week resets so otherwise it's fingers crossed Xur brings me the shiny shiny.

What Exotics are considered the best at the minute? My fusion rifle doesn't seem all that special and worthy of the single exo slot.
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
I really really really want an Exotic/Legendary Auto Rifle. I won't have enough crucible marka till after this week resets so otherwise it's fingers crossed Xur brings me the shiny shiny.

What Exotics are considered the best at the minute? My fusion rifle doesn't seem all that special and worthy of the single exo slot.
Dunno how true this is quite yet, but I've heard rumors that a lot of Exotics actually start out rather gimped and then become amazing with the high-tier upgrades.

That said, I have a feeling that an Exotic Heavy Weapon might be the best use of the slot.
 

Afrocious

Member
Could some kind soul fill those of us stuck at work behind a net nanny what this is all about?

Thanks!

You’ll be able to tell them, “I beat Bungie at their own game!”

Your mission (if you choose to accept it) is:
Clash
Thursday, September 18th
7:00 PM – 8:00 PM Pacific
PlayStation 4

Encountering us will not be enough to earn your reward. You’ll need to achieve victory against our designated team. Here are some of your marks:

imtylerdurden Josh Hamrick, Senior Designer
CE_Wizard Jon Weisnewski, Designer
Thug Larz Lars Bakken, Design Lead
DeeJ BNG Yours Truly, Community Manager
…and alternates to be named at gametime.

Hope that works. Basically Bungie employees will play Destiny and we get a special emblem for beating them
 
Tried to get in a strike before work this morning and everything was great until I got booted out right at the final boss. Since I was playing with randoms, there was no way for me to hop back in.

I seem to be victimized with more than my fair share of drops and I have no idea why. My connection is middle of the road but this doesn't happen with any other games. I even plugged my PS4 in via wire but to no avail.

I really hope Bungie a) fix their netcode and b) put in either some sort of quick-rejoin last group/fireteam or a recent players list on the roster screen. Very frustrating.

I was able to kick out a couple of bounties and got my gold stars of the day on a public event in the Cosmodrome. I know I could look up the schedule but I really like when I either stumble into one or when it happens out of the blue. I prefer not knowing when they're going to show up.
 

Andrew.

Banned
Bunch of sweet and easy bounties today. I love when you can group two or three (or more) together on one planet. Today, the Cosmodrome.

I can knock out the 10 Fallen/Ultras, acquiring 9000xp without dying, 6 patrols, and collecting 200 sensor mites basically in one go. Super convienient and super fun.

The only thing keeping me going at work today is the constant thought of going home to play and kick ass.

Only 300 more Van rep for level 2!
 

WITHE1982

Member
Thank you! The crazy thing is that even though there are a huge number of people getting upset about the loot drops, I'm really kind of digging this system when played as intended. Once you have your vendor Rank up (I've got 2 in Vanguard and am about to hit 2 in Crucible) your options reallllly open up, all with no RNG necessary.

There aren't teams! Farming is simply not intended as an avenue toward gearing up in this game.

I've found that I can farm quite happily while at work on my Vita for the sole purpose of upping my Cryptark rank. So IMO there is a place for farming in the game. Just not as a reliable way to get gear. I decrypt the engrams just to gain levels and if something good drops then it's just a bonus.

Rep/mark ranking is 100% the way forward though.
 
My first Legendary Engram gave me a Legendary!


Also, I used my hand cannon on accident in PvP and decided I'll switch back to my AR when I died.

Holy crap.

Not going back.
 

sploatee

formerly Oynox Slider
Holy crap, great stuff Hawkian.

+1

Great guide hawkian.

Pretty much what I did.

Over that 24 hump woot

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Me too!

Thank you! The crazy thing is that even though there are a huge number of people getting upset about the loot drops, I'm really kind of digging this system when played as intended. Once you have your vendor Rank up (I've got 2 in Vanguard and am about to hit 2 in Crucible) your options reallllly open up, all with no RNG necessary.

There aren't teams! Farming is simply not intended as an avenue toward gearing up in this game.

There's nothing wrong with farming, and it gets you gobs of useful stuff even without a single legendary drop. Certain kinds of it I honestly even find fun- the core gameplay in this game is just that wonderful. But it's just not a viable method of gearing up especially in terms of Light. The odds are so heavily stacked against you with legendary engrams! Everybody needs to understand this. Even if you have heard people say that "it works," these anecdotes can't affect your personal rolls against the loot table.

Consider 4 hours of farming one spot. Because of RNG you could:
-Not get any Legendary engrams at all
-Get a legendary engram, but have it turn into a blue (most likely)
-Get a legendary engram, but have it turn into a currency (handy, but definitely not what you're looking for)
-Get a legendary engram, but have it turn into a purple/exotic weapon (no Light)
-Get a legendary engram, but have it turn into an armor piece for another class (after clearing the "armor piece" roll, 66% chance of this happening)

All of those are individually more likely than getting a Legendary/Exotic armor piece than you need, but taken together it's like counting on one ticket to 6 simultaenous lottos. It's just not good.

edit: And of course in those 4 hours, you could have earned hundreds of points of Reputation, dozens of marks, still had plenty of random rolls from strike mobs/clears or pvp matches....

Again I have nothing against farming, it's farming for the specific purpose of advancing in gear that is a losing game.


.

You're sort of agreeing with me, right? :p

Legendary engrams are poop in my experience. Give me those marks!
 

Hawkian

The Cryptarch's Bane
O_O

I'm sorry, this is all foreign to me. Can you give me an example of an actual in-game item that is Type 1 versus Type 2, or whatever?

Barring some variable I am totally unaware of, that sort of thing doesn't matter. Your Level 24 set should consider of gear that is:

-Rare (blue)
-Base level 20 (should start with +13 Light)
-Fully upgraded (making it +15)

Everything else is totally irrelevant IMO. You won't even be wearing it that long- by this evening I'll only have one rare piece left.
You're sort of agreeing with me, right? :p
Oh I'm 100% agreeing with your points, I just wouldn't phrase it like there are two "teams" on how to gear up- farming versus earning. There's just one intended method of progression pre-raid, which can be augmented by farming. Engrams are an absolute joke if viewed as "the way forward." But they're quite nice when you understand that you don't need them :) I love it when a blue one turns into a strange coin.
 

DesertFox

Member
Just got my first Legendary.

Came from a blue engram while I was out doing public events/bounties/missions in Cosmodrome.

I didn't have high hopes when I returned to the Cryptarch. I was shocked when I got a purple from it.

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joecanada

Member
so I'm level 20 , doing patrol on venus and a legendary shotgun drops, i guess I should feel lucky? I was only on for about two hours.
 

LiK

Member
Read through some of the Grimoires last night. Disappointing. Destiny is fun to play but man, the world building is God awful.
 

WITHE1982

Member
Just got my first Legendary.

Came from a blue engram while I was out doing public events/bounties/missions in Cosmodrome.

I didn't have high hopes when I returned to the Cryptarch. I was shocked when I got a purple from it.

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There seems to be a lot of that happening lately. I wonder if Bungie have stealth patched the engrams a bit.
 

Flo_Evans

Member
O_O

I'm sorry, this is all foreign to me. Can you give me an example of an actual in-game item that is Type 1 versus Type 2, or whatever?

Barring some variable I am totally unaware of, that sort of thing doesn't matter. Your Level 24 set should consider of gear that is:

-Rare (blue)
-Base level 20 (should start with +13 Light)
-Fully upgraded (making it +15)

Everything else is totally irrelevant IMO. You won't even be wearing it that long- by this evening I'll only have one rare piece left.

from what I can tell the type (0,1,2,3,4) is just slight cosmetic differences. The base stats are based on the level of the gear, the type is how it looks.
 
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