From my limited use it seems pretty decent, the problem is that it's hard to evaluate it in a vacuum, and it's not as good as some of the other exotics(especially the other 2 gunsmith ones).
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From my limited use it seems pretty decent, the problem is that it's hard to evaluate it in a vacuum, and it's not as good as some of the other exotics(especially the other 2 gunsmith ones).
I'd like to add the baron's ambition [I dubbed the bloody baron] to that list. That thing single handedly got me through the holiday quest [chaperone bounty] in 3 matches. I have a very nice stability roll on it though. It's a hard hitting lmg and mine has the highest stability of any lmg I've seen almost maxed. Can get easy 2-3 hit kills [headshots] clear across the map. It is laser, a very nasty laser.
ReignofSparrows
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You weren't participating in the conversation.
And I've never claimed superiority in a discussion here. My post history will validate that. But when you routinely appeal to how everyone doesn't know something about an aspect of the game, I think it's pretty worthwhile to point out that many of best PvP Gaffers completely disagree.
The lag is noticeably worse today honestly, every single game so far.
Edit: 2 more for IB train
I am not a fan of it. It's decent but I wouldn't waste my exotic weapon slot on it.
Dave1988
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I'm down. PSN?
Jest Chillin
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The nature of Striker and Warlock Supers along with Map design means those classes have to close to damn near melee range before they pop their supers. That means they show up on radar and can be attacked before they can get the maximum effect from their super.
Sunbreaker can activate well away and run up to the point with their increased armor already intact, forcing a team to either abandon the point/ammo spawn or die. Countering at that point is too late.
Your comparison doesn't fit.
BMO = GOAT
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Hmm alright, thanks! Just two weapon tests away from rank 3 on my titan.
Stephen_drewz
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Hunter - Level 5 IB
Titan - Level 4 IB
Total IB drops: 0
Between that and the raid drops this has not been my weekend.
Titan - Level 4 IB
Total IB drops: 0
Between that and the raid drops this has not been my weekend.
Teasing_Pink
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I like it in pve and crucible with close quarters maps, but I like it less than one of the gunsmith hakke auto rifles he had this week.
He didn't actually claim to be better than him though, he said other people on GAF
Plus what would you say about this then?
I'm already lvl 5 IB with my Titan. Is it worth doing with my hunter for the cloak. Not a big fan but anything is better then that hideous neurogast cloak. Looks like I'm wearing an octopus on my head. How long would it take to get to lvl 3? I can finish the weeklies no problem.
I'm over the Sunbreaker class now (as a Titan). I don't find it fun in PvP to almost effortlessly get Breaker medals so I've switched back to Striker/Defender. I will say that I really enjoy the Sunbreaker in PvE though, so I'm scared of whatever Bungie may do to the sub-class that'll affect PvE. I love Stoke the Forge and Fleetfire, it's very satisfying in PvE.
I just want Bungie to fix/update the older sub-classes now. Shoulder Charge seems to have been nerfed/affected by whatever melee attack aim assist update they did for 2.0 and is much less consistent. Fist of Havoc seemingly has much less damage resistance by default (without Unstoppable) and the blast radius for Fist of Havoc also seems noticeably smaller. This makes it incredibly weak and the risk:reward is completely out of whack compared to the other Year 1 super Nova Bomb.
Their weakness is compounded without The Armamentarium or Peregrine Greaves in Year 2. I'm sure the Dunemarchers and Twlight Garrison will help, but those don't seem to be 100% rolled out yet.
I just want Bungie to fix/update the older sub-classes now. Shoulder Charge seems to have been nerfed/affected by whatever melee attack aim assist update they did for 2.0 and is much less consistent. Fist of Havoc seemingly has much less damage resistance by default (without Unstoppable) and the blast radius for Fist of Havoc also seems noticeably smaller. This makes it incredibly weak and the risk:reward is completely out of whack compared to the other Year 1 super Nova Bomb.
Their weakness is compounded without The Armamentarium or Peregrine Greaves in Year 2. I'm sure the Dunemarchers and Twlight Garrison will help, but those don't seem to be 100% rolled out yet.
BreezyLimbo
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Because that's objective. People who think the Overshield is a huge issue don't realize it makes a Titan immobile if they're going for that playstyle.
I would say I'm better than you in PvP
Besides I don't think I've really played with you for you to make such an uninformed comment.Well to be fair Stormcaller has perk that allows super last 100-150% longer if you have full melee and grenade energy when activating super. Then you can have blink build into your super through another perk, duration and blink perks can and should be active at same time. Stormcaller is still super easy to take down tho and blink has internal CD making spamming it impossible.
With good timing play you can do serious damage with it, but few seconds of focus fire will kill stormcaller. Even person you are going after can kill you with shotgun because of supers range and it taking 2-3 ticks to kill.
You're better off buying one from the speaker. Both are solid this week and the best two IMO.
No drops? Shit dude, that's really bad luck.
I have Hunter & Warlock at 5.
4 cloaks, 1 bond, 1 sidearm
figadapaura
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You only lose 2 bursts for that extra stability. I think it's worth it.
Why do we have to devolve the dialog into the silly extremes?
And the other classes need adjustments as well.
Stormtrance lasts too long.
Bladedancers should have lost Quick Draw ages ago. Free Quick Draw with blink is silly.
This 'my class' vs 'your class' stuff is for the birds.
Read somewhere that its perk may not be activating correctly and that if it did the Fabian would be a monster.
Braced Frame has the biggest effect on Pulse Rifles out of all the perks. It tightens grouping significantly.
I'd say it's worth it just so you'll have the cloak right off the bat when the next IB starts. Since your main is already rank 5 your hunter should earn double the rep on wins and bounties. It should go by very quickly.
BreezyLimbo
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In this case, alot of people are treating Sunbreakers as an extreme. Like, the way they talk about SB's, you would think a SB is an unstoppable Terminator with 100% perfect accuracy that can snipe you across the map, shrugging off rocket launchers and sniper rounds, whilst having the grace of a bird and flying around the map.
Like I said, nerf their armor. But unfortunately I don't think that'll make people happy until they butcher them.
I would say the little difference it makes is not worth losing a burst for. When you can get consistent 2-3 burst kills depending on engagement that 1 burst can be the difference between 3 or 4 kills per mag for example. The IB PR is so good enjoy.
Edit: 2 burst difference...totally not worth it IMO. Just try it both ways and if you can handle it without braced frame then keep that extra kill potential in hand.
iRAWRasaurus
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Fresh raid on ps4? Same PSN as my gaf name
1) rawr
2) friend
3) friend who has done it once
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1) rawr
2) friend
3) friend who has done it once
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Bring armor down by notch and put internal CD into cauterize so titans can't chain heal from kills. That would make SB more vulnerable for counter plays that don't involve popping couple supers into them while maintaining their viability in both PvP and PvP.
imo
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Buf if you land at least one headshot kill then reloading IB PR takes blink of an eye.
Stephen_drewz
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0 IB drops. Got a couple of legendary engrams along the way, both Neurocast or whatever it is but that was it.
Don't have enough marks to buy Pulse, Cloak, Butt Flag and both armours either which kinda sucks.
Collateral22
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Heh, just got a 10 killstreak with one stormcaller Feels good.
Feels good.It's so fast because of the 'catch up' buff... I got to 3 on my Titan, started on my Hunter and the Hunter almost caught him in just a couple matches.
I'm now 5 with my Titan, 3 with my Hunter and trying to decide if I should start with my Warlock or not. I got the PR and I bought the Wolf Hat, so I think I'm good.
You can probably earn that weekly bounty still (play 13 matches/win 7) and that'll rank you up super fast.
Pretty sure most people just refer to the DR when they talk about overshield.
Reckless Onion
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Heh, just got a 10 killstreak with one stormcaller
but.. but.. hammers
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Same on me for not reading the posts above me. Yeah with you, we would need 2 more
BreezyLimbo
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In a game where overshield has a very specific meaning, that's uh...that's on them.
Heh, just got a 10 killstreak with one stormcaller
Disgusting, I bet your skills chained to clumped enemies and killed them all too. Ugh, nerf.
Heh, just got a 10 killstreak with one stormcaller
The chaining ability is crazy on the super. I've never bothered trying the improved chaining. I routinely see it hitting people that are hiding that I would have not known were there otherwise. I wouldn't be mad if it got reduced a bit.
I can come on my titan. Psn thaennon. I believe we're already friends
Kamina
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Just sent you a FR
Heh, just got a 10 killstreak with one stormcaller
I also like roleplaying SB when I score that good chain and then get another good chain into their spawn wave. Damn rare tho as you get shut down so easily :/
iRAWRasaurus
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Just need 1 more to do a fresh raid
Edit: full
Edit: full
Collateral22
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mehrmantrout
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Massively worth it.
Edit another massively long ass grind to rank up a new monarchy level, another shit reward. Where's the smart loot, Luke
Jest Chillin
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Yup. And Sunbreaker wouldn't be as bad if it was also either lower armored or didn't have the regen. The class doesn't need to be nuked from orbit. It just needs to have something adjusted down.
There is zero drawback to Sunbreaker at the moment.
GG has a loud, bright animation that takes away control and the defenses are normal.
Blade Dancer has lower mobility and control is awkward limiting map travel.
Nightstalker leaves the player floating in the air, exposed for counter attack.
Nova Bomb leaves the player floating in the air, exposed for counter attack and has limited effect radius in smaller spaces.
Radiance has a loud, bright animation and has no "new" abilities.
Stormcaller has slow mobility, normal damage taken and limited to just beyond melee range.
Defender bubble is stationary, nearly no offensive use.
Striker one time use with limited range, ending animation takes away player control.
Sunbreaker... can't Carlton dance at the same time as they run around roflhammering anyone in sight?
Edit: Only appropriate
Breakfast at Noon
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Hate side arms, find them patheic and useless.
In love with the side arm from iron banner.. so much fun
In love with the side arm from iron banner.. so much fun
EL CUCO
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I'm kinda enjoying the Havoc Pigeon.Hate side arms, find them patheic and useless.
In love with the side arm from iron banner.. so much fun
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