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Destiny |OT34| Stop Hammer Time!
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i plays game lol
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I mean, it's not your fault their tools are shit though. Realistically small stuff like that SHOULD be quick/easy. Pretty mind blowing for a huge studio to have such terrible tools.
the start of the Lunar Complex with the hive was pretty creepy
TheCanisDirus
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Imagine if raids incorporated something like that where you end up having 12-18 guardians engaged in some super chaotic boss war!
MostWantedZero
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They kind of did it with Court of Orxy. But real implementation would be awesome
I think they are running two studios, Bungie and High Moon to work on it so as to speed up development and crank out more content for the sequel.
They REALLY need a huge game for Destiny 2 to shut up all the "just another content less husk" haters
JohnOfMars
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WOAH. This bit about Taken King:
(That entire last Mars chunk was later cut and passed to Activision subsidiary High Moon Studios to develop for Destinys full-sized 2016 sequel, a source said.
gutterboy44
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Well that part is accurate. It just seems they have garbage tools. Hopefully they can resolve those in the next year so in Destiny 2, five minute fixes actually take five minutes.
VE3TRO
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Kind of like Court of Oryx in a way, but without messing around getting a couple of fireteams together by swapping in and out of groups......
Poker Face
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No way.
Strangelove77
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From reading the article it sounds like the original story was bad and this stitched together version we got was better, though still bad because of the nature of taking pieces and jamming them together hastily.
I'm glad they ditched the original story, but I wish they had a lot more time to rework it.
Too many people focus on what could have been and assume what was there before was better than what we got. People never assume that maybe the old thing was bad and while this isn't necessarily good, it's better.
I honestly don't think a good Destiny story ever existed until TTK. Which is faint praise.
I'm glad they ditched the original story, but I wish they had a lot more time to rework it.
Too many people focus on what could have been and assume what was there before was better than what we got. People never assume that maybe the old thing was bad and while this isn't necessarily good, it's better.
I honestly don't think a good Destiny story ever existed until TTK. Which is faint praise.
Fantastic article Jason if you're reading - well-written, researched, and measured.
I don't think there's a smoking gun or anything but this further outlines what many have suspected.
The big takeaway for me moving forward is continued pessimism about the quality and volume of content we're going to get from the 'live team' in lieu of formal DLCs, supported by statements like this:
I don't think there's a smoking gun or anything but this further outlines what many have suspected.
The big takeaway for me moving forward is continued pessimism about the quality and volume of content we're going to get from the 'live team' in lieu of formal DLCs, supported by statements like this:
It is, but I'm not gonna be mad a "normal joe programmer" who just wants to fix stuff and has to hope his loader works overnight when he comes to the studio.
The blame lies with the people who sanctioned all this.
Imagine being a programmer at Bungie and all you want to do is fix stuff for the community you care about and it takes you DAYS just because the tolls you were given or even told to make are shit.
theSlacker
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It sounds more like they are doing finishing touches on things that have already been developed while Bungie works on the bigger new things. At least that is what I hope.
I have a full set of the Hunter NM stuff too. It's sexy.
Nah. Jason Schrier is an asshole for pushing the tabloidization of regular game development.
Him coming in here and hyping up his article should tell you he's more interesting in "look at me!" than any actual investigative product.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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Can anyone TL;DR the article? Don't have time to read the whole thing right now.
gutterboy44
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I don't know. As someone who has spent some time reading Grimoire lore, I think they built a really cohesive mythology in Destiny and there was some really intriguing things that could have been uncovered and explored in the game had that lore been represented. It is hard to say that the shipped version of the story is better than the scrapped version because there isn't even a story in vanilla destiny. It is fragmented crap. I guess I would have preferred an over ambitious linear story falling flat than no story at all.
Good article and pretty much what we heard/speculated did happened. Sounds like that Super Cut was pretty bad.
I like that they made the story/game less linear but the story that it originally had sounds way more interesting.
The stuff about the engine/code was depressing, definitely explains why it takes them a while to fix things.
I hope the people at Bungie really dont get too burnt out because that release schedule is pretty rough. They really did make a great/innovative game that does a ton of things extremely well and a few things just ok or so so (at least in Vanilla).
I like that they made the story/game less linear but the story that it originally had sounds way more interesting.
The stuff about the engine/code was depressing, definitely explains why it takes them a while to fix things.
I hope the people at Bungie really dont get too burnt out because that release schedule is pretty rough. They really did make a great/innovative game that does a ton of things extremely well and a few things just ok or so so (at least in Vanilla).
wowbaggerBR
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I want to go to Europa (there were some concept art before launch that looked amazing) and I want that multiple fireteams meeting up to take down some boss ASAP.
iRAWRasaurus
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It was what I expected and I enjoyed what I read quickly
got classes soon :/ and will fully read over it later
From the site that posts Microsoft press-releases word for word as truth when 2 minutes of googling shows a complete fabrication.
suuuuuuure
Why so rude? It was a nice read.
TheCanisDirus
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I was actually going to say the complete opposite.
The original story sounds magnitudes better than what we've got/gotten so far. Day one Destiny rescuing a kidnapped Rasputin on the dreadnaught who's actually controlling/or is an exo.... Cayde-6 being a mysterious villain character antagonizing us through the story... Osiris, our jedi-master like mentor living in a hidden Vex outpost on Mercury... vs...
Well, you all know what we've got so far
gutterboy44
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Didn't even think about this aspect. I agree. The details of this story make me even more pessimistic about what the live team are going to be able to deliver in the next year.
A bit harsh. The guy regularly posts in DGAF threads as player and him letting us know a new Destiny article was coming was him having a bit of fun.
noomi
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So ready, so fucking ready
KanameYuuki
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No one is on Undying mind for touch of malice : ( any of you guys free to help me?
Yeah, I could have told them the game wouldn't score so high if they let me play it before release
Anyone running NFs? If so, join on me, V1ctIm.
Wait for the patch that fixes the rewards in a few hours.
About time someone wrote an article about this. I thought I'd have to wait for some employees' tell-all book 9 years down the line.
TheCanisDirus
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Yeah that's what i'm thinking as well. Bummer. But, thankfully Halo and BOIII are right around the corner if this is true.
mehrmantrout
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Think i need it too. Psn AengerdX
If a small team made TDB in 9 weeks it's possible we could still get a Crotas End sized raid between now and then.
noomi
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You can actually solo it
Took over an hour, but I found it pretty manageable. Hunter invis helps a bunch.
It was information that was already known, or is standard game development being presented as a big revelation.
Bungie already said themselves publically multiple times that they had to get their internal tools up to speed. They repeatedly said it was a new engine. Which means new middle ware, which means you lose all the 'battle tested' code you had with your previous games.
It's hilarious when people keep begging for developers to make new engines and then ignore the cost of making a new engine (rebooting your entire internal toolchain and retraining everyone)
This isn't journalism, investigative, or even useful. It's a hitpiece on a developer that has always been open about their failures, but because they didn't write their post mortems fast enough they're now being treated as "hiding something".
gutterboy44
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So the crucible maps Widows Court and Memento are totally from the cut European Dead Zone right? Damn, I think those maps have some really cool art direction and a patrol space in that zone would be sick.
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