darkistheway
Member
I think that really does sum up why people can argue about the effect of aim assist. I am a more deliberate sniper and I miss headshots by a pixel length all the time. When that happens, I wish the game had more aim assist!
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Destiny |OT38| The 0.04% of the 4%
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the_log_ride
Member
Huh. That sheds some light for me. I also prefer the Eirene AA. Thanks for the insight, Boguester.
He's not lying when he describes the mechanics of sniping. Aim assist does not curve the bullet to hit the head. It does however slow down the reticle while aiming over the person's head, essentially "magnetizing" the reticle to their head.
igordennis
Member
There is no point in looking at what is being said. Its a subjective thing, that much has been made clear by the pointless arguments i have seem and had here on this thread. I can play this game and play any other shooter and tell you the AA in this game is crazy high compared to pretty much anything and someone just comes and say no that's not right snipers are just fine where they are, they are difficult to use whatever etc etc. There's no middle ground here, folks on either side of this fence will never persuade one another, we are looking at the same facts and taking opposite conclusions, there's not much to be said.
Got mine to 320 yesterday, I think it's better then the hung jury. Sucks that it's only for the warlock tho.
I am on my way. Just gotta power the system on.
carterd1981
Member
I'm in. psn kortez1981. sending friend invite
Just filled adding you to FL for future reference.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
I think the sharp uptick in the amount of people using snipers that we've seen after the 2.0 patch is enough evidence to argue that they have gotten significantly easier to use.
carterd1981
Member
captscience
Member
Exactly! I had the same experience.
Something that's beyond debate is that no matter the rarity or means of acquisition, the number of desirable exotic gear has to increase dramatically.
Dedicated players not getting their white whales was certainly frustrating and unfair, I myself didn't get a GHorn until well after HM Crota, but the famous hunts added interest and fun to the community. I wanted to be in Narmer's fireteam when he got his Horn, I jumped into a strike with Noomi just to congratulate him on his Hawkmoon, and I waited eagerly for Drizzay's Thunderlord post.
If Destiny is to function as an addictive loot game as I'd like, treasured gear must be "rare." I need a carrot on a stick.
Not necessarily. You can't establish how good or easy something is in a vacuum - things are only viable insofar as they compare to alternatives.
The rise of snipers has to do with many things, but I'd contend the most important aspects are the significant range need to quick-killing HCs like Thorn and TLW, along with the reduced effectiveness of one-shot Shotgun range.
Darryl M R
Member
God I hate having to get 800 more kills on my warlock for grimoire. I play like trash on my warlock. .
And nope, I'm leaving every game if my teammates don't know how to play the objective or revive. It is not fun losing. If I was on the opposing side I would not care since I get my win.
And nope, I'm leaving every game if my teammates don't know how to play the objective or revive. It is not fun losing. If I was on the opposing side I would not care since I get my win.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Was playing Wicher 3 and looking at picking up the expansion. This review had a pretty good burn:
Witcher 3 is sooooo good, though. And so is Diablo 3 and the new 2.4 patch.
There's never been a better time to stop playing Destiny.
So anyone for Trials on Friday?
Witcher 3 so good. Put in 200 hours in the last 10 days, still so much left to do. The amount of effort and detail gone into every character, every dialogue, every side quest is phenomenal.
Also the game looks like a dream. Actual screenshot I took on ps4 few days ago (now my wallpaper):
Yeah the game is gorgeous and has so many memorable moments, and the writing is top notch. DLC totally worth it, I picked up the season pass when I bought the game as it was 50% off that time
Absolutely. The only downside is loading times (~45 seconds) in big areas like Novigrad, and frame rate sometimes drops, but only for a second or two.
Pandora012
Member
I always wondered, but why do people laugh when I say I use the Spindle in pvp? Is there something wrong with it?
No.
It's just a weird choice for PvP. Low magazine size, not much aim assist, low stability etc.
Also people generally don't want to use an exotic as their special cause they use an exotic primary.
MagnetoWasRight
Member
Going to do totems and warpriest at 8. Maybe twice.
Edit: Full
Edit: Full
It's perks are PVE oriented so its just a waste of your exotic slot really.
That reminds me I need to collect helium on the moon.
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Boombloxer
Member
Yes, that's probably the one thing I'd want more of.
I think weapons like Tlaloc are a step in the right direction, but there should be more elements to really capitalize, or uses for them.
Like the Nighthawk, I only use this on my gunslinger and can't miss, but if I had an armor piece that say, turned me invisible upon activation, or released chain lighting in an area upon crit or kill, or changed the damage to poison when combined with Vanish in Smoke, or summoned a clone that does 50% extra damage if crit, it'd make things more interesting to use.
As it stands now, I can only get a few orbs, or kill/damage one guy. It's useful, but to really expand, the system needs a bit more to exploit. It's already ruined me for other shooters, so I'd like to see more experimentation.
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Snipers have always complimented hand cannons well with their range, the only difference is now snipers have to fill a larger range due to the reduced hand cannon range. As for shotguns initially after 2.0 practically nothing changed. All that was done was having shot package removed. The last balance patch nerfed them a bit more but still left the issue, which is the highest impact archetype being what it is.
I agree that balance doesn't exist in a vacuum, but I believe the increase in sniper use is not mainly the result of other weapons being nerfed so much as the increase in usability of what has always been the most powerful weapon in the game.
Nghtly was using the black hammer as his main weapon in ToO during the HoW days while he was the top PS4 ToO player.
Until he did PvE enough to roll Her Benevolence into Ambush+Snapshot. Never again after that
Slammin_Hammon
Member
Use what you are comfortable with, but know there is no benefit to using spindle in PvP. The only time spindle will do anything that a 1kys can't is rez sniping a Ram wearing warlock who just self rezzed. Other than that you have an exotic slot in use, slow RoF, fewer rounds in the magazine, and an ugly scope.
Nghtly would have used a white sniper if he could have. The dude is a fantastic sniper regardless of the weapon so him using black hammer means very little.
rasengan1337
Member
yeah, for the impact. but once he got the queen's sniper, he vaulted it permanently.
edit: is it wrong that I main my Invective?
Would he have used it if it was exotic? You know the answer to that question.
Also Warlocks with Ram get sniped by 1k when they self res. Stop spreading this myth. This was never true. Not even in Y1 before the Ram nerf.
igordennis
Member
Not really. Its a very powerful gun in the right hands (and extremely annoying to go against during an agressive super).
JohnOfMars
Banned
The best thing the D3 team was abandon PvP. The insistence of the Bungie sandbox team to keep the player abilities the same across PvE and PvP is what makes PvE so bland. I really, really want to see PvE only abilities. Like just what you said.
rasengan1337
Member
these are my hands
there are many like them
but these are mine
and they aren't the right hands... lol
XD
XD
MagnetoWasRight
Member
We need two for totems and warpriest. Join on Macello.
j2theizzay
Member
If you still need to do it, I'll hop on my brother's account. He needs the solar sword. PSN: meginyu
Darryl M R
Member
Witcher 3 so good. Put in 200 hours in the last 10 days, still so much left to do. The amount of effort and detail gone into every character, every dialogue, every side quest is phenomenal.
Also the game looks like a dream. Actual screenshot I took on ps4 few days ago (now my wallpaper):
Yeah the game is gorgeous and has so many memorable moments, and the writing is top notch. DLC totally worth it, I picked up the season pass when I bought the game as it was 50% off that time
Absolutely. The only downside is loading times (~45 seconds) in big areas like Novigrad, and frame rate sometimes drops, but only for a second or two.
You got that sweet mastercrafted bear armor yet?
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Yeah I'll be on in 1-2 minutes. Can do 2.
I would use the Invective all the time against thermal Titans before the nerf. An amazingly annoying weapon which rendered a lot of hate mail.
igordennis
Member
Wut. 20 hours a day? Is that...healthy? Ruthless pls D:
You did good. Just don't join any online games. Too many hackers that will screw up your paragon level