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[EroticSushi]

Can someone share the discord link?

EDIT: Thanks Deku

 

[Pandora012]

Doctrine nerf?

You can finally get your 320 artifact X'D

Yeah like I need another one of those things. Forever 319.

 

[Night_Knight]

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[ocean]

Hand Cannon Buff - Ocean gets hyped
"Increasing ammo inventory size" - someone kill these people

 

[Dthomp]

I missed the beginning of the guns talk. What happened with Doc?

 

[SgtCobra]

More accuracy for snipers.

lolololol
Kill me now.

 

[Ghazi]

Can someone share the discord link?

Here

 

[Pandora012]

Hand Cannon Buff - Ocean gets hyped
"Increasing ammo inventory size" - someone kill these people

Yeah I got excited for a second

 

[NeOak]

I missed the beginning of the guns talk. What happened with Doc?

Slight base damage decrease.

Low RoF are getting a slight buff to base damage.

 

[ocean]

Oh shit Ambush/Longview gonna zoom further now to make close range snipes harder
longer scope animation
Snapshot nerfed
reduced stability across the board

get the salt shakers

 

[spyder_ur]

More accuracy for snipers.

lolololol
Kill me now.

When did they say that? I heard increased zoom (i.e. less short range sniping), longer time to scope and less stability. Seems logical and measured.

 

[Dthomp]

Mida nert coming!

-edit- lol nevermind

 

[NeOak]

More accuracy for snipers.

lolololol
Kill me now.

lol nope


MIDAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[Night_Knight]

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[ErnieMcCracken]

Oh shit Ambush/Longview gonna zoom further now to make close range snipes harder
longer scope animation
Snapshot nerfed
reduced stability across the board

get the salt shakers

This should be interesting. Streamers salty.

MIDA nerf incoming...

 

[SgtCobra]

When did they say that? I heard increased zoom (i.e. less short range sniping), longer time to scope and less stability.

He did say that the accuracy would be higher but I don't really know how I should interpret that. Perhaps he's only talking about the "zoom" aspect of it which is fine.

Edit: kill the mida nowwww

 

[Pandora012]

Fuck you Bungie. Don't mess with my Mida.

 

[Dez_]

I actually like Mida. I also liked that hidden high caliber rounds for pve.

 

[ErnieMcCracken]

Fuck you Bungie. Don't mess with my Mida.

Balanced? Nerf it...

 

[NeOak]

Fuck you Bungie. Don't mess with my Mida.

Fuck your MIDA

 

[Dthomp]

lol Mida balanced...That's why it's used more then 70% more then every other primary

 

[ErnieMcCracken]

SUROS new meta

 

[spyder_ur]

Suros and Hawkmoon buffs to range - fantastic.

TLW perk damage down.

 

[Dez_]

I better complete that Last Word quest fast.

 

[Dthomp]

lol....hasn't the Last Word been nerfed enough?

 

[Rainmaker]

why

 

[ocean]

lol Mida balanced...That's why it's used more then 70% more then every other primary

Conflating popularity with imbalance is what's led them to make so many stupid decisions so far. MIDA non-nerf is a great example of them looking past the data.

WAIT WHAT THE FUCK TLW NERF DAMAGE? BUNGIE WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHAT IS THIS

 

[NeOak]

Yeah, they will get hate due to the MIDA lack of Nerf.

lol Thorn

 

[SgtCobra]

lol....hasn't the Last Word been nerfed enough?

The gun is still nuts, it needs these nerfs.

 

[Rainmaker]

Like, uh, I just want the guns to be fun.

 

[Dthomp]

Wait? Nobody uses Thorn? Have they never went into PVP?

 

[Night_Knight]

.

 

[Dez_]

Lol, trolling with thorn buffs.

 

[FyreWulff]

thorn gettin' murdered

 

[stay gold]

HAWKMOON!

Poor Suros, reclaimed it's throne for 10 minutes.

 

[DonutTurtle]

Just beginning to catch up and boy...

 

[NeOak]

Wait? Nobody uses Thorn? Have they never went into PVP?

He was kidding

 

[haunted_taco]

every single exotic getting more homogonized.

 

[Rainmaker]

Hopefully Destiny 2 figures out a way to divide PVP and PVE weapon stats or something.

 

[Scousefury]

I haven't played since january and i still know these nerfs and buffs are whack as shit.

 

[Night_Knight]

.

 

[Dthomp]

So you did away with keeping ammo..AND brought back special at beginning???

 

[JetBlackPanda]

what is he talking about nobody is using ice breaker in PVE.

So you did away with keeping ammo..AND brought back special at beginning???

Bungie is just moving sliders back and forth and calling it updates.

 

[Kor of Memory]

Part 3

• John is a weapons guy. New, Old, balancing, etc...
• He brought cue cards.
• ARs
• high rate of fire base damage coming down
• low rate of fire base damage going up
• pulse rifle
• low rate of fire base damage coming up
• hand cannon
• increasing ammo reserves
• fusion rifles
• blanket stability increase
• as projectile leaves barrel, less kick, so more accurate
• snipers
• short distance scopes getting zoom increases.
• trying to discourage close range play
• small increase to ADS frames increase. Snapshot slightly nerfed.
• blanket stability decrease
• MIDA
• Saw tremendous exposure when brought forward
• "What are we doing to make this less popular" -Deej
• Removing High Caliber rounds
• REGIME
• Buffs from AR buffs. To powerful. Slight nerf to compensate.
• Focus Fire got range buff.
• Hawkmoon
• increased range
• TLW
• last work perk nerfed (less bonus damage and stuff). Zoba am cry.
• 3 shot kill still
• Just no more 2 shot kills
• Thorn
• Not coming to year 2.
• "No one is really using it" -John Weznewski
• DoTs are nerfed. less damage less ticks total
• Poison screen on enemy nerfed.
• IceBreaker
• Not coming to Year 2
• No more special ammo swap
• Handling nerf

More to come.

 

[ocean]

IB zooms more and handles worse. They really don't want us to use it ;(

 

[Zoso Achilles]

Almost had a heart attack with their thorn troll.

 

[LTWood12]

We decided to make anything cool into the equivalent of a flacid penis.

Other than Hawkmoon because broken clocks something something.

 

[Rainmaker]

I wish Thorn was brought back to glory. At least it would feel special.

 

[NeOak]

I wish Thorn was brought back to glory. At least it would feel special.

No. Fuck off. Bye.

RIP IB.

 

[ErnieMcCracken]

We decided to make anything cool into the equivalent of a flacid penis.

Other than Hawkmoon because broken clocks something something.

Just need to get rid of exotics. Nothing "exotic" about them anymore.