xplicitone
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Destiny |OT40| Killed by the Architects
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Oh yea LOL that's it
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RIP ALL INFUSION CALCULATORS [September 15, 2015 up to April 12, 2016]
Interficium
Banned
The quasi death threats from BreezyLimbo ("i'm not saying DeeJ should be killed, just that he should be 'first up against the wall'!") were a real low point in the history of OPs here.
People like BreezyLimbo demanding open and honest communication and transparency from Bungie while simultaneously going on multiple profanity-laced meltdowns a day is like a guy with a gun to your head telling you that you can "speak freely."
Not surprised Luke stopped posting here, either.
Finally got time to view the stream from yesterday... as someone who never uses snipers and mainly plays IB the new ammo timer seems like it will be much less fun.
If I can start with special ammo each time I die, I think I can keep at least a few rounds in my shotgun till the next crate arrives, so I'm staying open mined till I get to play it out before I decide to cry about it, but I don't feel the heavy ammo needed changing much.
I'd say I pick up heavy ammo maybe half the time it's available (maybe a little more than half), and those are usually the only times I can get a decent streak going.
If I could change it, or if it has to be reduced to 1 heavy crate per round, I'd like for ammo to be available to the entire team: if a member of Alpha claims a crate, everyone on Alpha can run over and grab a clip, same for Bravo. Or maybe expand the proximity, if possible. I wouldn't mind if they went back to only 2 heavy drops per round, since most rounds I play seem to get it 3 times now.
Either way, I don't think they're done tinkering with ammo drops. If it sucks bad enough for everyone, I'm sure they'll fix it back real quick like the last time they tried to fix special ammo....
If I can start with special ammo each time I die, I think I can keep at least a few rounds in my shotgun till the next crate arrives, so I'm staying open mined till I get to play it out before I decide to cry about it, but I don't feel the heavy ammo needed changing much.
I'd say I pick up heavy ammo maybe half the time it's available (maybe a little more than half), and those are usually the only times I can get a decent streak going.
If I could change it, or if it has to be reduced to 1 heavy crate per round, I'd like for ammo to be available to the entire team: if a member of Alpha claims a crate, everyone on Alpha can run over and grab a clip, same for Bravo. Or maybe expand the proximity, if possible. I wouldn't mind if they went back to only 2 heavy drops per round, since most rounds I play seem to get it 3 times now.
Either way, I don't think they're done tinkering with ammo drops. If it sucks bad enough for everyone, I'm sure they'll fix it back real quick like the last time they tried to fix special ammo....
JohnOfMars
Banned
And Breezy got banned. Nobody else was anywhere near that.
Are things negative? Yes. Too much at times? Yes. But DGAF is not some toxic place that hates Bungie folks.
By the way, Luke posted a total of once for all of Year 1.
TheAquaticApe
Member
You. Me. Shaxx bounties tonight? Or do you have to go home and be a family man?
If not, we can try and do a card this weekend. The last weekend of Doctrine and TLW. RIP.
Rollo Tomasi
Member
If you see Luke around the office today please put in a good word for us.
xplicitone
Member
"I got a stupid exotic rocket launcher" were my words I'll never forget when I got it since I didn't know what it was either hahaha
The next day, my IRL friend said "what did you get from atheon last night again?" I said some stupid rocket launcher named Gjallarhorn. He said "WAIT WHAT REALLY?! THATS THE BEST GUN IN THE GAME I HEAR!" I was like oh really? Hmm I'll try it out, I guess. I really wanted a primary with an element, like REALLY BAD. I thought they were the coolest things. I really wanted a Vision of Confluence more than anything in the game haha. It explains why i was upset I got a RL instead of a primary with a burn like VoC.
Good times.
BlindMonkey
Member
Going through all my Share pictures looking for Gjallarhorn drops was quite the nostalgia trip.
I had 7 in total, a crazy 3 in 11 days.
My 7 Gjallarhorns were from:
18-11-14 - VoG Exotic Chest
03-03-15 - Nightfall
05-05-15 - CE Deathsinger
12-05-15 - Nightfall
16-05-15 - VoG Atheon
11-07-15 - CE Crota
25-08-15 - Nightfall
I had 7 in total, a crazy 3 in 11 days.
My 7 Gjallarhorns were from:
18-11-14 - VoG Exotic Chest
03-03-15 - Nightfall
05-05-15 - CE Deathsinger
12-05-15 - Nightfall
16-05-15 - VoG Atheon
11-07-15 - CE Crota
25-08-15 - Nightfall
xplicitone
Member
Hahaha that's pretty awesome.
I know I've gotten a few afterwards but I could never keep track that much! Really cool though
I've got my Gally on a end game drop on crucible. I remember I was last on my team. I'm the example that Bungie has for "loot system works as intended" back on December Y1.
Also, that was the first exotic weapon that I fully upgraded, back then upgrading a weapon was stupidly expensive, you had to buy the shards from Xur and as a scrub, I didn't had any SCs.
Question, is it worth to edge the Variks rep doing Skolas this week? Can't remember if Variks levels will give a good rep package after the patch.
Also, that was the first exotic weapon that I fully upgraded, back then upgrading a weapon was stupidly expensive, you had to buy the shards from Xur and as a scrub, I didn't had any SCs.
Question, is it worth to edge the Variks rep doing Skolas this week? Can't remember if Variks levels will give a good rep package after the patch.
Wait, Breezy did what now? Breezy man cmon, we know you're passionate about Destiny and it leads to salt when things don't seem to be going right, but don't take it that far ffs.
I know the three streams have gotten people, myself included, saltier and saltier with each successive week, but you have to remember that Bungie is made up of real people who are trying their hardest to get a good game out. Will they get things wrong? Damn right they will, way too many times for many people's liking (RIP Red Death), but you must always have to try and keep the salt in check and avoid crossing the line.
Hopefully Breezy didn't get a perm and he'll be able to rejoin us soon having learnt this lesson.
I know the three streams have gotten people, myself included, saltier and saltier with each successive week, but you have to remember that Bungie is made up of real people who are trying their hardest to get a good game out. Will they get things wrong? Damn right they will, way too many times for many people's liking (RIP Red Death), but you must always have to try and keep the salt in check and avoid crossing the line.
Hopefully Breezy didn't get a perm and he'll be able to rejoin us soon having learnt this lesson.
Were you on a break the second time Xur sold it?
(Tbh it was only meaningful when running solo Raids or speedrunning stuff, you didn't miss out on all that much despite what people say)
Actually it's great for soloing the taken bounty bosses for Petra. Keep an eye out for the legacy heavy engrams from Xur, that's how I got mine a couple of months back.
I had quit playing last November and started up again that weekend he sold it, but I had no strange coins. ¯_(ツ
_/¯Yeah, I may do the engram route, but it's sort of a waste at this point, though I'd like it for the catch 'em all aspect if nothing else.
I remember getting my Ghorn from an engram a month into the game. It was around the time when news about how good it was began spreading throughout the community like wildfire and I was the first of my group of friends to get it and try it out, and boy did it wreck.
I'm surprised Bungie made the Ghorn irrelevant, it was a white whale for the community and had everyone playing the game like mad trying to get it.
I'm surprised Bungie made the Ghorn irrelevant, it was a white whale for the community and had everyone playing the game like mad trying to get it.
ReignofSparrows
Member
I'm not going to comb through the thread for every example of people being complicit in the toxicity they are denying existed, but here is one example.
Says the person who summarized an incoherent rant containing this:
as "good stuff" because it had two clauses in it you agreed with.
Says the person who summarized an incoherent rant containing this:
as "good stuff" because it had two clauses in it you agreed with.
illiniguy05
Member
That's good stuff, Reign!
Here's more good stuff: https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/44577/7_Destiny-Weapon-Tuning--April-Update
notable changes:
JohnOfMars
Banned
I think I'd prefer Trials, but you've had a rough few weeks with Trials, so what's your pref?
mehrmantrout
Member
Looks like even the Hakke scopes may be snared, rip.
xplicitone
Member
Hmm...
Hahaha tomorrow lol
LoL Ya Dirtbag
Hmm...
.Yeah, looking forward to stories like that in the future.
Yeah, because I'm not going to dissect it when his intent wasn't generally bad. I give people the benefit of the doubt. Passion isn't always eloquent.
Lately, you seem to only focus on the toxicity.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Well I was with Destiny since day one, and when Xur sold G-horn the first time, I remembered I didn't have enough coins, and I really didn't understand what it was at the time, and that one mistake of not buying it then would turn into 5 months of agony.
Like I said when I got it on February 17, 2015. I will never forget, I literally cried.
Vault of Glass for ever.
Like I said when I got it on February 17, 2015. I will never forget, I literally cried.
Vault of Glass for ever.
The 1KYS adjustment is a very large outlier as far as changes go. The 1KYS ammo reduction is almost as brow raising as the first boost to Thorn's ammo capacity. The only thing that had to happen was adding LDR and Longbow into the pool earlier. Put that 1KYS ammo reduction line of code on hold for a month and then revisit the 'problem.'
Better yet, stop giving out useful weapons as mission rewards because then they apparently become too common. No more raid weapons either. What's the point of a raid weapon? Boosting the reload speed on raid primaries is boring. Boosting cocoon would have been much more interesting, but I guess we can't have that. Everybody would be using their raid rocket launchers to do something nefarious. When weapons become interesting they become coveted and.... used
eckkkkkkkkkk
No more beating the drum. Screw it.
Better yet, stop giving out useful weapons as mission rewards because then they apparently become too common. No more raid weapons either. What's the point of a raid weapon? Boosting the reload speed on raid primaries is boring. Boosting cocoon would have been much more interesting, but I guess we can't have that. Everybody would be using their raid rocket launchers to do something nefarious. When weapons become interesting they become coveted and.... used
eckkkkkkkkkk
No more beating the drum. Screw it.
From the update preview.
With this and the 1K Stare, Bungie is 1) outright stating they are balanced, 2) providing us only usage data rather than data about how effective they are in their intended role, and 3) nerfing them anyways.
This is maddening. It contradicts their own previously established balancing philosophy, and simply hits them with arbitrary nerfs because they are popular. They are literally nerfing guns because they are balanced and fun to use. If they are doing so for other reasons, they did not supply data to justify doing so.
Between this and shotguns getting nerfed again , it really does feel like they are working to suck the fun out of using weapons in this game. I know that's not their actual goal, and it feels unfair just to type it. But between the net effect of the actions and the communication of why they are taking them, that's exactly what it feels like.
What really sucks here? My Hunter mains the MIDA and 1,000 Yard Stare in PvE. So I get whacked for arbitrary PvP balancing. What a bummer.
Bungie has gotten a lot of grief for nerfing things for reasons that are difficult to understand, but these are really frustrating because they are actually good, well balanced weapons. They've even written in the past about how the popularity of a weapon is not that important - it's how successful the weapon is in its intended role. How often is the user of MIDA coming out on top when fighting hand cannon users, when inside of hand cannon's intended useful range? How does that compare to other weapons? Relativity.
With this and the 1K Stare, Bungie is 1) outright stating they are balanced, 2) providing us only usage data rather than data about how effective they are in their intended role, and 3) nerfing them anyways.
This is maddening. It contradicts their own previously established balancing philosophy, and simply hits them with arbitrary nerfs because they are popular. They are literally nerfing guns because they are balanced and fun to use. If they are doing so for other reasons, they did not supply data to justify doing so.
Between this and shotguns getting nerfed again , it really does feel like they are working to suck the fun out of using weapons in this game. I know that's not their actual goal, and it feels unfair just to type it. But between the net effect of the actions and the communication of why they are taking them, that's exactly what it feels like.
What really sucks here? My Hunter mains the MIDA and 1,000 Yard Stare in PvE. So I get whacked for arbitrary PvP balancing. What a bummer.
I don't mean to rub it in, but you really did. It was a different game back then.
The 1KYS adjustment is a very large outlier as far as changes go. The 1KYS ammo reduction is almost as brow raising as the first boost to Thorn's ammo capacity. The only thing that had to happen was adding LDR and Longbow into the pool earlier. Put that 1KYS ammo reduction line of code on hold for a month and then revisit the 'problem.'
Better yet, stop giving out useful weapons as mission rewards because then they apparently become too common. No more raid weapons either. What's the point of a raid weapon? Boosting the reload speed on raid primaries is boring. Boosting cocoon would have been much more interesting, but I guess we can't have that. Everybody would be using their raid rocket launchers to do something nefarious. When weapons become interesting they become coveted and.... used
eckkkkkkkkkk
No more beating the drum. Screw it.
Bungie really has no idea what they're doing when it comes to snipers. While this change could help, all they have to do is pull the data from before the range patch and see that snipers were much more balanced back then. I despise the 1k Stare but hitting it that hard doesn't even make sense.
The reload speed on the raid weapons is the biggest problem. They did that to make cocoon feel more valuable, but all it did was make them annoying to use. The handcannon reload still looks too slow for my taste but I might give the pulse rifle a try again. (If I ever get another one.)
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
I agree with Mtashed 100%.
Typically with Thorn you'll hit the target at least twice, so the optimist in me is looking at it as 2 stacks for 8 total damage.
...
Okay, the realist in me now agrees with you.
What really sucks here? My Hunter mains the MIDA and 1,000 Yard Stare in PvE. So I get whacked for arbitrary PvP balancing. What a bummer.
The removal of HC rounds from MIDA really nerfs it for PvE too. :/
So there's this new website Bungie put out to advertise all the ways to increase your light level. This bullet point is interesting.
"Engrams now guaranteed to grant an item with Light value higher than players total Light"
https://www.destinythegame.com/light-journey
"Engrams now guaranteed to grant an item with Light value higher than players total Light"
https://www.destinythegame.com/light-journey
Would've lead the stream with this. Huge.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
The problem with Bungie's approach to balancing is that the end result is a sea of bland weapons.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
First thing I'm doing.
All of the events are telling me Exotic Engrams drop at 310 Light and 335 Light.
/stares at the drum
I don't even get what it means. It seems like misinformation more than anything. You'd level up so fast.
If you're 325 light, you get a 326 item? It can't be blue engrams, I'd assume they're capped at 310 or 320. It's not exotics, they go up to 335. Is it just legendaries? I don't know.
optimus8936
Banned
It said exotic engrams drop up to 335 and non exotics drop up to 310
Dreamgazer
Member
TheTylerDurden
Member
I can't find that...what activity do you see this under?
EDIT: there's more than one mistake there. It says these things under 'visit your faction'
Exotic Engrams now grant items up to 335 Light
Exotic Engrams now grant items up to 310 Light
Engrams now guaranteed to grant an item with Light value higher than players total Light
That's a cut and paste. Obviously the first two lines are at odds with each other.
That whole page makes no sense.
Inapplicable
Member
I could join, probably won't be able to use mic though because people are sleeping.
Edit: Full, that's okay, I'll go play some crucible.
In the same few lines of text it says faction packages reward up to 330 light, which also contradicts your theory.
Bungie can never make things simple.