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Destiny |OT40| Killed by the Architects
- Thread starter DrDrizzay101
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I definitely am, and I was going to last night, but I just really wanted to make some more progress in the division
Was that not you on Eric's strim??? Under a new gt?I definitely am, and I was going to last night, but I just really wanted to make some more progress in the division
Night_Knight
Unconfirmed Member
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You just gotta put up the Hawkian signal.
If only I was near my laptop to pull up photoshop and change the Bat Signal to the Hawk Signal.
Pandora012
Member
You are right. If and when we do Oryx I will do the running for you,
as we saw what happens when you take the lead....
Shots fired
Also armsday hype tomorrow. Holding 3 packages, please let one be a good roll you stupid game.
optimus8936
Banned
He is, but he said he wasn't going to be able to do it for a few weeks, not sure when he's coming back though
Wow three whole days... 4Head
Night_Knight
Unconfirmed Member
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Thanks Nami, I'll send him a PM. He hasn't been around lately.
Again, xplicit has me beat on that one. Dude hit 30 like a week before me. Since division came out I've spent very little time in Destiny.
Dthomp
Member
What's your issue with staying on maps?
Nami do you still have the "Thorn in the trash" GIF you made a while back? I miss that one, it's among your best. I still think your crowning achievement as a GIFmaker was the Hype Rises one tho
Pandora012
Member
Oh god, please. We do not discuss what happened yesterday. I saw waaaaay too many turn back messages.
So, how do we know when good rolls come out? Does someone have to take the plunge and risk getting something bad?
Which one?Nami do you still have the "Thorn in the trash" GIF you made a while back? I miss that one, it's among your best. I still think your crowning achievement as a GIFmaker was the Hype Rises one tho
This one?
Or this one?
Or this one?
I really should have added my name to that Hype Rises gif. See it every now and then in hype threads.
Which one?
LOL. I hate thorn so much. Saved.
Hype rises will need to be put up a few hours before the Bungie Twitch tomorrow.
Yeah, scrubbier than that and you were dunking the wrong daughter... Doh! ;-)
You can check the roll before you buy it.
Pandora012
Member
I seem to be remembering that differently.
Go figure. That still doesn't help me, since I'm hopelessly lost when it comes to this sort of thing.
TheAquaticApe
Member
LF1M for 3X Golgoroth CM...right...NOW! Could it be you? Maybe you? How about you?
Night_Knight
Unconfirmed Member
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Inapplicable
Member
I'll join.
TheAquaticApe
Member
Dope. Bring a hunter to start if you can
Night_Knight
Unconfirmed Member
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darkistheway
Member
I officially hate the Taken. Just terrible lazy design compared to year one Destiny. They go a long way to making PvE unplayable for me.
This is most evidenced in the strikes from year one (I used to love running strikes) where they were shoehorned as content 'updates.'
The encounters are tiresome exercises where the enemy placement and ability spam encourage the sort of camp/cheese gameplay that is supposedly the reason Bungie took Icebreaker out of the game.
None of the individual enemies are hard so Bungie almost always shoves them at you in increased numbers. The removal of elemental primaries and nerfs to shotguns means hanging back and picking the enemies off one by one remains the best strategy for Heroic/Nightfall levels of difficulty. And it is tedious to play that way.
Now they are adding them to PoE? FML
This is most evidenced in the strikes from year one (I used to love running strikes) where they were shoehorned as content 'updates.'
The encounters are tiresome exercises where the enemy placement and ability spam encourage the sort of camp/cheese gameplay that is supposedly the reason Bungie took Icebreaker out of the game.
None of the individual enemies are hard so Bungie almost always shoves them at you in increased numbers. The removal of elemental primaries and nerfs to shotguns means hanging back and picking the enemies off one by one remains the best strategy for Heroic/Nightfall levels of difficulty. And it is tedious to play that way.
Now they are adding them to PoE? FML
Destiny Reddit has a nice post on armsday about what to buy and what to avoid. And with the Arminius-D package arriving tomorrow, you can bet it will be analysed to death on which roll is the best one. But I think A-D can't get the counterbalance perk... Am I wrong or is it persitence?
Usually someone on here (or reddit) says if it's a good roll or not. That's what I'm banking on, at least.
I was laughing so hard when that happened.
You can get CB, I have it, but it's not as good as the Doctrine.
Pandora012
Member
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was Nico!
How....how could you?
Yes it was. Don't let her tell you otherwise...
(Now I'm a lying traitor scrub... List keeps getting better...)
Kalamari
Member
Bungie's Halo multiplayer was much better received than Destiny's due to it being better balanced due to its greater simplicity. But all of these snarky responses that have come from Bungie employees just reeks of "leave us alone, so we can do our jobs" despite the untimeliness of their content releases. I have thought that Bungie is a little inefficient in terms of production, but the recent tweets has me wondering that the magnitude of that inefficiency could be 10x.
What I would give to be a fly on the wall of Bungie.
utsavinheaven
Member
Any raids/cm ?
JohnOfMars
Banned
I officially hate the Taken. Just terrible lazy design compared to year one Destiny. They go a long way to making PvE unplayable for me.
This is most evidenced in the strikes from year one (I used to love running strikes) where they were shoehorned as content 'updates.'
The encounters are tiresome exercises where the enemy placement and ability spam encourage the sort of camp/cheese gameplay that is supposedly the reason Bungie took Icebreaker out of the game.
None of the individual enemies are hard so Bungie almost always shoves them at you in increased numbers. The removal of elemental primaries and nerfs to shotguns means hanging back and picking the enemies off one by one remains the best strategy for Heroic/Nightfall levels of difficulty. And it is tedious to play that way.
Now they are adding them to PoE? FML
I used to feel as you did. But I had my mind changed recently. Counter-argument from Slayerage, the guy who solo'd Oryx.
I personally couldn't disagree more. Taken centurions give me something to worry about other than direct fire, taken goblins force me to prioritize them over even much bigger enemies, taken psions need to be killed all in one go so you can't just kill a couple and get back to them later, taken vandals make it so you can't just always kill them whenever you want, taken wizards will spawn extra enemies nonstop until you kill them, taken phalanx make you need to be aware of your surroundings, taken hobgoblins are only smart to fight if you have cover because of their homing retaliation, taken acolytes aren't much of a threat but the eyes they spawn should generally be killed as fast as possible, and taken captains are always important to be aware of even if damage from them isn't the threat.
If taken knight's fire took up more space and lasted longer for "zone control," they'd be more interesting. Finally, taken minotaurs and thralls are just plain annoying variations of the enemy. Not a huge fan of those three.
The taken actually make you think about how you're engaging enemies and make different prioritization strategies more or less effective. The black spindle mission is an awesome example. You wipe the blights to prevent enemy spawns, then kill the major centurions, captains, etc. because they're the biggest threats, then wipe the psions because they are vulnerable if they won't have cover to give them a chance to refresh their numbers again. As a second example, when you're fighting oryx, you have to watch out for axion darts and acolyte eyes - but the centurions and acolytes themselves aren't too important, so you can kill ogres or knights when those taken aren't using their abilities actively. If I see an acolyte eye alive and firing I always kill it because it's only a matter of time before it melts my teammate. If I see a dart chasing one of my teammates I try to get it off their back. But the regular enemies? Not really very troublesome.
So for two major reasons, keep the taken coming: they give our opponents a chance to have abilities too, which is just fair and makes the concept of space magic gunfights a lot more interesting, and they actually encourage a strategic approach to gunfights and priorities. They aren't perfect, but they are a thousand times more interesting than vandals, acolytes, hobgoblins, etc are. If the vault of glass were the exact same except with taken goblins, hobgoblins, and minotaurs, it would be a whole new level of difficulty and it would be much more difficult, which is appropriate for an activity that we have been doing for a year. If they were to just buff levels and numbers the content would still be a joke.
I think they should continue to make more enemies that actually pose more than one meaningful threat, instead of just enemies that are only dangerous when in line of sight. It fits much better with destiny's combat style to have enemies that don't just require cover based fighting.
Tl;dr it's good that unlike every other enemy in the game, the best strategy for the taken isn't always "see it shoot it."
If taken knight's fire took up more space and lasted longer for "zone control," they'd be more interesting. Finally, taken minotaurs and thralls are just plain annoying variations of the enemy. Not a huge fan of those three.
The taken actually make you think about how you're engaging enemies and make different prioritization strategies more or less effective. The black spindle mission is an awesome example. You wipe the blights to prevent enemy spawns, then kill the major centurions, captains, etc. because they're the biggest threats, then wipe the psions because they are vulnerable if they won't have cover to give them a chance to refresh their numbers again. As a second example, when you're fighting oryx, you have to watch out for axion darts and acolyte eyes - but the centurions and acolytes themselves aren't too important, so you can kill ogres or knights when those taken aren't using their abilities actively. If I see an acolyte eye alive and firing I always kill it because it's only a matter of time before it melts my teammate. If I see a dart chasing one of my teammates I try to get it off their back. But the regular enemies? Not really very troublesome.
So for two major reasons, keep the taken coming: they give our opponents a chance to have abilities too, which is just fair and makes the concept of space magic gunfights a lot more interesting, and they actually encourage a strategic approach to gunfights and priorities. They aren't perfect, but they are a thousand times more interesting than vandals, acolytes, hobgoblins, etc are. If the vault of glass were the exact same except with taken goblins, hobgoblins, and minotaurs, it would be a whole new level of difficulty and it would be much more difficult, which is appropriate for an activity that we have been doing for a year. If they were to just buff levels and numbers the content would still be a joke.
I think they should continue to make more enemies that actually pose more than one meaningful threat, instead of just enemies that are only dangerous when in line of sight. It fits much better with destiny's combat style to have enemies that don't just require cover based fighting.
Tl;dr it's good that unlike every other enemy in the game, the best strategy for the taken isn't always "see it shoot it."
Interficium
Banned
Comments like this always make me laugh, coupled with the "I want the old Bungie back" comments that are so frequently made.
Old Bungie's "weekly mailsack" in the Halo days was basically selecting the stupidest fanmail they got every week then mercilessly making fun of the people who wrote them. If they did that today the community would be flipping the fuck out about how Bungie is "disparaging the fans!"
Makes me wonder who really changed, Bungie, or the community.
darkistheway
Member
He does make some good points. I don't mind the Taken as much in their own missions and strikes - the encounters are designed with their unique flavors in mind (as slayer elucidates above). The physical approaches are designed to encourage you to utilize the Taken King sandbox (ie. snipers, the new supers/abilities) and so they do feel 'better.'
And Black Spindle and Fear's Embrace were top-notch experiences.
My anti-Taken salty rant is specifically spurred by running Heroic strikes - Valus, Undying Mind or Saber are all lessened by the presence of the Taken (imo, obviously). I prefer to run strikes fast and loose - I think they were designed to be run that way. The difficulty spikes I experience with the Takenified strikes feels like artificial difficulty all the way.
I do appreciate the strategy argument. Maybe the issue is playing with idiot randoms who don't know to do anything but shoot straight(ish).
Dreamgazer
Member
Anyone up for 2-3 quick golg CM run?
BlazeBreak
Member
A line of thought concerning "There's nothing to do" that I don't really see discussed much is the fact that the current endgame has doubled its expected shelf-life.
TTK has been out for six months now. Based on what we know, it was likely a late-in-the-game decision to forego smaller TDB/HoW style DLC and fill the revenue void with Eververse. Because of such, TTK's endgame was most likely designed only to be in its current state for ~3 months (the time between vanilla and TDB) -- For comparison, HoW, which was specifically designed to maximize available content for a longer drought, only had a four month shelf-life.
TTK has been out for six months now. Based on what we know, it was likely a late-in-the-game decision to forego smaller TDB/HoW style DLC and fill the revenue void with Eververse. Because of such, TTK's endgame was most likely designed only to be in its current state for ~3 months (the time between vanilla and TDB) -- For comparison, HoW, which was specifically designed to maximize available content for a longer drought, only had a four month shelf-life.
utsavinheaven
Member
I can join lightsaberut