Destiny - Review Thread

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There's no confusion. You're just trying to define MMORPG as you please.

While not many players appear on screen at any given time, the player pool is massive. The systems are those typically associated with MMORPGs.

It deserves to be compared to other MMOs that don't charge a monthly fee.

As I please? Oh please. PSO is an MMORPG, and Destiny is structured a lot like it. That's only one example.

Edit: And wtf do you mean there's no confusion? Why is Destiny being an MMO or not such a HUGE topic for the game if there was "no confusion." You make no sense, and if you thought I was referring to something else when I said "that's where the confusion comes from" then you misinterpreted and it's irrelevant.

I didn't say it doesn't deserve to be compared, I just said it's simply not an MMO, plain and simple.
 
I think reviewers who mark it down to 6-7 are just making a point to Bungie that they did overhype the game and it is lacking in Story and a couple of extra locations. Then it would of been very good.

However, its easily an 8 it plays very well and any game hat gets 15-20 hours of your attention is often not a 6. Don't think I have ever played a 6 for > 10 hours.

Story is overrated, so many games have crap stories, I cant tell you the story of any Gears or Halo, I just ran around and shot things. It did not really matter

Makes you wonder how much the Activision and DLC stuff pushed Bungie into coming short on content ?
 
Just because they went for it on a far smaller scale doesn't change what it is at its core. The basic building blocks are there, and I think you very well know this. To me an MMO isn't just solely about player count, but also very much the structure and design of that game.

I mean, if it makes people feel better we can call it a Multiplayer Online FPS RPG, and leave out the massive part, but it absolutely borrows heavily from MMO game design. That's not a crime. However, when it apparently doesn't do a very good job in areas that are vital to making a player feel a sense of reward or continued motivation to keep playing and coming back for more, that kind of becomes an issue. Maybe the raw gameplay alone is motivation enough for many, but that alone isn't what was sold to people. Nothing at all wrong with people that feel the gameplay alone is rewarding enough to make up for the areas in which it lacks, but if you're going to include all these other things at all and talk about how great they are, then at the very least a lot more is expected than what players actually received. It doesn't really get a pass simply because it's not entirely in line with your traditional MMO experience. Never forget that a big part of the excitement in the first place was that these other elements would be totally up to standard and executed with pretty high quality in a game that played as Destiny did, that took place in a massive world as beautiful as what was built, with a story experience to match.

I didn't argue with that it isn't a lot like an MMORPG, it's just not an MMO.


"To me an MMO isn't just solely about player count, but also very much the structure and design of that game"

But you cant do that, because if you do, then Planetside isn't an MMO, which it is.

Edit: I mean I understand the comparisons and everything. Your second paragraph makes sense. I'm was solely debating on the "is Destiny an MMO" topic
 
My hope is that this becomes a Diablo 3 at launch situation. The complaints are very similar (poor story, stingy loot, repetitive/limited content).

If they're as responsible and humble towards criticism as Blizzard was then they should be able to fulfil Destiny's full potential.
 
There is def a difference in regard to that hiphopgamer tweet. I def do think people go into experiences with a critical eye instead of just trying to enjoy the experience. Kinda like a person bringing a list to a first date trying to find the one instead of just going with the flow.

Eh sometimes I can see he's right, but plenty enough people share the same problems with Destiny that I don't think it's fair to say it was an unfair score/review.
 
My hope is that this becomes a Diablo 3 at launch situation. The complaints are very similar (poor story, stingy loot, repetitive/limited content).

If they're as responsible and humble towards criticism as Blizzard was then they should be able to fulfil Destiny's full potential.

Diablo 3 was a pain in the ass for not even working at launch.
 
http://youtu.be/vUxRTCTr7ic
This talk from GDC 2013 featured Joe Staten(former story lead who departed from Bungie late last year).

It gave the impression that Destiny was going to be FAR deeper storytelling-wise. To see the contrast between this vision and the final product is jarring, but I recommend you give it a watch.

I'm starting to suspect that Activision and the higher-ups at Bungie were limiting him from achieving something deeper story-wise. Mind you, Joe Staten had been at Bungie for over a decade. His enthusiasm in this talk doesn't match the quality of the released product.
 
I think reviewers who mark it down to 6-7 are just making a point to Bungie that they did overhype the game and it is lacking in Story and a couple of extra locations. Then it would of been very good.

However, its easily an 8 it plays very well and any game hat gets 15-20 hours of your attention is often not a 6. Don't think I have ever played a 6 for > 10 hours.

Story is overrated, so many games have crap stories, I cant tell you the story of any Gears or Halo, I just ran around and shot things. It did not really matter

Makes you wonder how much the Activision and DLC stuff pushed Bungie into coming short on content ?

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Digital Chumps should be a thing.

Yeah, maybe one day. Today, it was just my opinion. *shrugs* I have fun with the game. Apologies.

And just to get it out of the way:

- No, we don't make profit.
- No, Activision/Bungie didn't pay us.
- Yes, I enjoyed it.
- Feel free to say the part that starts with 'No, this game isn't perfect.'

*shrugs*

It's just one man's opinion.
 
This game is only fun with a group of three playing through all the missions. Even then it's not super fun or anything. Once you get past earth every freaking mission is just fighting wave after wave of super aggressive bullet sponge jerks. The strikes are the worst. Doing that by yourself is insane and just not fun at all.

The PvP is complete garbage so I won't even go there. Kind of regret getting this game now. I think I'll just play a bit of KZ2 to wash the bad taste from my mouth.
 
I haven't picked up destiny yet. The plan was to pick it up in a few weeks when I have more time to play. I am not surprised at the reception the game has received. Like most, the issues with the game were noticeable in the beta.

I haven't read any reviews but I have kept an eye on gaf opinions. It seems that what I did like about the game is still present. I spent about 24 hours in the beta playing mostly PvP. So I'm still gonna pick up the game for this alone. I had a blast with just 3 maps or whatever it was.
 
have to say alot of the reviews I've read are pretty much on the mark. I do wonder why BF4, Titanfall didn't get the same treatment. Did Activision/Bungie not post any cheques ?
 
Yeah, maybe one day. Today, it was just my opinion. *shrugs* I have fun with the game. Apologies.

And just to get it out of the way:

- No, we don't make profit.
- No, Activision/Bungie didn't pay us.
- Yes, I enjoyed it.
- Feel free to say the part that starts with 'No, this game isn't perfect.'

*shrugs*

It's just one man's opinion.

Oh shit, it is a thing? I'm sorry, I thought someone was just making up a name. Haha, oh man no offence :/
 
I think optics matter. I don't see a practical difference between play level -> defend ghost in setpiece and play level -> have setpiece in room and then watch cutscene where character leaves the level, but it feels repetitious and monotonous. That's on the designers and they should have caught it. Optics do matter.

Yeah okay, I can see that, that some people are bothered by the (lack of) context around what you do in Destiny. But it doesn't really bother me personally. That's how I would describe the criticisms levied at this game. I agree with most of them, but they don't bother me. I guess that's what happens when the core game mechanics feel great.

Resident Evil 6 scored worse in late 2012.

Reviewed so unfairly. The game is really great.

y2kev pls
 
Destiny feels like a Halo game with light RPG elements. I'm really enjoying it.

I've played every Halo game, some a couple times, and I can't wrap my head around the idea that anyone thinks Destiny's story is any worse than pretty much any Halo from Bungie with maybe the exception of Halo 2.

Most of my friends who call themselves huge Halo fans never even bothered to finish the campaign modes in Halo.

This is pretty standard Bungie, imo. I've always thought reviewers gave them huge a pass on their writing quality.

At least with something like Halo CE, stuff was actually explained to you. You started out not knowing much about the world, you meet Captain Keyes and he gives you a rundown about what's going on, you go down to the Halo, and get much more answers over time

While in Destiny, it doesn't feel that much is explained to you about the Universe, maybe the card things do, but I haven't got around to reading those (but even so, side content to the main game seems to be much better with Bungie, the Halo 3 Terminals were excellent despite the story in that game sucking)

Here are some reviews that I agree with quite a lot
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1flIRD7Tk5eLbsK7aayelCFXmNQgZ2tqwgQxfWReG4q0/edit

http://haruspis.wordpress.com/2014/09/11/destiny-dinklage-ex-machina/
 
This game is only fun with a group of three playing through all the missions. Even then it's not super fun or anything. Once you get past earth every freaking mission is just fighting wave after wave of super aggressive bullet sponge jerks. The strikes are the worst. Doing that by yourself is insane and just not fun at all.

The PvP is complete garbage so I won't even go there. Kind of regret getting this game now. I think I'll just play a bit of KZ2 to wash the bad taste from my mouth.

To each their own, this is actually the most fun I've had in PvP since either the original Gears or Halo 3. I've maxed a class and started on a subclass and I'm really enjoying the differences it brings out in play. My Blade Dancer is lethal in PvP as is my Gunslinger, but both require very different techniques and it's really got me hooked already. Disclaimer: I'm actually really enjoying all of the game even if I do wish there were some more cutscenes to flesh out the story.
 
So as gamers we make fun and critique all the games that get 8/10 9/10 etc.. But not this time.

THIS TIME They actually did a real review?

Give me a break the game is an 8/10 for sure.

But whatever it's not like these "gaming" journalist have a clue about anything.
 

It is without a shadow of doubt the most ridiculous line I have ever heard in gamedialogue. "There are so many deep and interesting reasons and explanations for doing this, but I can't be bothered to tell you.". Literally, can not believe not a single person in the dev team said: "Dudes... seriously...?" to his co-workers.

Also, I´m guessing the Game of Thrones story influence is your character saying "Your grace" once. Cringeworthy stuff.

Still, I was having fun, until today I noticed doing strikes over and over, grinding away at ridiculous healthbars for better loot that you´re not going to get, is actually kinda boring.
 
So as gamers we make fun and critique all the games that get 8/10 9/10 etc.. But not this time.

THIS TIME They actually did a real review?

Give me a break the game is an 8/10 for sure.

But whatever it's not like these "gaming" journalist have a clue about anything.

Well, you didn't really explain anything, so I'm not sure why I should believe you.
 
This game is only fun with a group of three playing through all the missions. Even then it's not super fun or anything. Once you get past earth every freaking mission is just fighting wave after wave of super aggressive bullet sponge jerks. The strikes are the worst. Doing that by yourself is insane and just not fun at all.

The PvP is complete garbage so I won't even go there. Kind of regret getting this game now. I think I'll just play a bit of KZ2 to wash the bad taste from my mouth.
It's not even possible to play strikes by yourself...
 
That the open terrain is potentially explorable.

http://youtu.be/BTfhrONAp-c?t=2m30s

People seem to forget the qualifiers made, but hey - anything to drive a narrative.

Really?

Saying something like "We hope to send you guys there someday" is purposefully vague and misleading, especially when you consider that demonstration of the game happening prior to the release of Destiny.

If there intention wasn't to mislead they would have said, simply "We hope to expand the game into those areas in the distance for post-launch DLC", not "All that stuff, if you ran out there, it's all playable terrain".

Nowhere in the video does he say that you'll be able to do that at launch.

Nowhere does he say you won't be able to do that for launch. The implication is that you will be able to, but it is left purposefully vague to mislead.
 
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