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Deus Ex: Human Revolution |OT| I never asked for this... It gave me lemon-lime
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Backfoggen
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I definitely snuck around a couple of them which makes me think that it's possible. Kinda dumb that they give you a lethal weapon though.markot said:
Backfoggen
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I think it does. But I'm afraid to start killing again if it maybe doesn't.SalsaShark said:
Where's my goat?
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SalsaShark said:
From what I've heard from others, I'm afraid it does.
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My first play-through is on 'Normal' difficulty and I'd call it aggressive stealth. My main weapon is a fully upgraded pistol (silencer + laser + powerful ammo), but I try not to kill unless I'm put in a corner.
I have to say, having infiltrated Derelict Row as part of the Jenny Alexander mission, going back there and mowing everyone down with the Combat Rifle as I took the helicopter to the
was IMMENSELY satisfying.
My second play-through will be pacifist on Give Me Deus Ex, but I'll probably keep a combat rifle in my inventory (if there is space) just for the bosses.
I fucking love this game, I'm just worried if I'll have the motivation to do all the side missions, etc. again on a second go round. Thoughts?
I have to say, having infiltrated Derelict Row as part of the Jenny Alexander mission, going back there and mowing everyone down with the Combat Rifle as I took the helicopter to the
FEMA facility
My second play-through will be pacifist on Give Me Deus Ex, but I'll probably keep a combat rifle in my inventory (if there is space) just for the bosses.
I fucking love this game, I'm just worried if I'll have the motivation to do all the side missions, etc. again on a second go round. Thoughts?
revolverjgw
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bigjimmystyle said:
Here's my MO- I maxed out my hacking-stealth immediately, I never bother fortifying anything (don't even know what it is! maybe it's useful but I don't need it). I hack everything even if I have the code, going for every possible bonus node, which gives me tons of worms and nukes. Don't be afraid to back out of a hack if you start getting traced before getting the bonuses... back out and try again until you have one attempt left, in which case it's time to break out the viruses if you're in danger. This only happens to me on the hardest hacks.
Works for me, I hack everything and have a growing stockpile of viruses that should last forever and then some.
im seriously mad as fuck
youre gonna say i had it coming, but the game should fucking tell me about it instead of giving me a lethal gun and showing me a weapons tutorial video in the fucking TUTORIAL SECTION. I ASSUMED that didnt count cause the game was pretty much asking me to shoot those guys.
holy shit, 11 hours playing like that for no reason.
youre gonna say i had it coming, but the game should fucking tell me about it instead of giving me a lethal gun and showing me a weapons tutorial video in the fucking TUTORIAL SECTION. I ASSUMED that didnt count cause the game was pretty much asking me to shoot those guys.
holy shit, 11 hours playing like that for no reason.
Where's my goat?
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bigjimmystyle said:
There is a stealth hacking aug that helps lessen the chance of being caught. Other than that, just need to be quick, and don't be afraid to use nukes and stops. Once you get a hang of it hacking becomes fun, or at least it did for me.
I've only used 1 lethal takedown so far and have killed 4 people not counting the first boss. I think its because the game creates such a realistic world that even though there is no explicit morality system I want to only kill the really bad guys and not the suckers who just get in my way.SalsaShark said:
Castor Krieg
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Was going to wait, but 20EUR for Augmented Edition - BOUGHT! Preloading now.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Whelp, the bug I have essentially shuts down the GPU.
Good job Eidos. Way to kill my boner.
Good job Eidos. Way to kill my boner.
Backfoggen
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Nothing wrong with wanting that achievement for playing non-lethally.
Castor Krieg
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revolverjgw said:
It makes the node ahrder to hack for the trace program = more time for you to hack.
d00d3n
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The game has much more freedom than I expected. I spent five or so hours yesterday going through the sidestuff in the first hub world outside sarif headquarters in Detroit. I have to take issue with some things, though:
As a "gotta catch em' all" power gamer you are very restricted when it comes to your first aug choices. I have spent essentially every available praxis point on somewhat boring augs that are needed to get everything (4 maxes out hacking access, 1 needed to make hacking less quickload dependent, 2 for social enhancements, 1 for larger inventory). The stealth enhancing augs seem more fun gameplay wise but you can compensate in those areas with quickload and repetition which makes them less essential. Passing up hacking to use keycodes is hugely penalized in the game with notably less experience, less hacking items and less credits. When you have used the code any reward you could have gotten by hacking is lost forever. The social enhancement aug is also needed early to get all the benefits in conversations, which I guess is self-explanatory. Inventory size is stupidly under-dimensioned at default which forces you to choose between leaving a lot of stuff behind or getting the augs. A permanent locker or storage area would mitigate this (weapon upgrades and some other stuff take up lots of space but are not really needed on the field) but I have not found one as far as I have played.
The thing that really annoys me with the game is the ridiculous loading times. This targets people who are trying to "power game" specifically and easily stretched the first primary mission several hours for me. It has also been annoying when hacking in the hub world. I have no idea how the testers for the game could find the loading times acceptable. I can think of no other trial and error-based stealth game with loading times even in the same ballpark as human revolution.
In conclusion the game is clearly GOTY-material despite everything I said above ...
(the reply is a double post from rockpapershotgun)
As a "gotta catch em' all" power gamer you are very restricted when it comes to your first aug choices. I have spent essentially every available praxis point on somewhat boring augs that are needed to get everything (4 maxes out hacking access, 1 needed to make hacking less quickload dependent, 2 for social enhancements, 1 for larger inventory). The stealth enhancing augs seem more fun gameplay wise but you can compensate in those areas with quickload and repetition which makes them less essential. Passing up hacking to use keycodes is hugely penalized in the game with notably less experience, less hacking items and less credits. When you have used the code any reward you could have gotten by hacking is lost forever. The social enhancement aug is also needed early to get all the benefits in conversations, which I guess is self-explanatory. Inventory size is stupidly under-dimensioned at default which forces you to choose between leaving a lot of stuff behind or getting the augs. A permanent locker or storage area would mitigate this (weapon upgrades and some other stuff take up lots of space but are not really needed on the field) but I have not found one as far as I have played.
The thing that really annoys me with the game is the ridiculous loading times. This targets people who are trying to "power game" specifically and easily stretched the first primary mission several hours for me. It has also been annoying when hacking in the hub world. I have no idea how the testers for the game could find the loading times acceptable. I can think of no other trial and error-based stealth game with loading times even in the same ballpark as human revolution.
In conclusion the game is clearly GOTY-material despite everything I said above ...
(the reply is a double post from rockpapershotgun)
duckroll said:I play a non-lethal character, but I have no moral qualms about tranq'ing gangbangers in the sewer, and then dragging their bodies into the electrified water after looting them, thus ending their miserable lives. What sort of person does this make me!?
ive been reading online that if youre somewhat harmful while draggin the bodies they can die, lol. So beware those who are playing non-lethal.
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14 hours played, just got to Shanghai. Why yes, this game is fucking incredible.
Unknown Soldier
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duckroll said:I play a non-lethal character, but I have no moral qualms about tranq'ing gangbangers in the sewer, and then dragging their bodies into the electrified water after looting them, thus ending their miserable lives. What sort of person does this make me!?
Look, if you're going to kill people, don't waste time with passive-aggressive nonsense like that! Just shoot them in the head while they are unconscious and be done with it!
I actually wonder if doing that body dragging thing counts as killing them or not.
CF_Fighter
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Going to pick up my PS3 copy today. First new game I've bought this year besides Portal 2. So glad to hear this thing is getting great reviews. Family is gone for the weekend so I'll have the big screen and great sound system to myself.
Man, have my first few Praxis points and I'm having a tough time deciding. So many choices. Might just go the hacking route. Or the cloak ability.
That first mission was great. Found myself using stealth the whole way through, which is surprising since I'm not usually a big stealth guy.
And Jensen's takedowns are so brutal lmao, some of them literally made me cringe the first time I saw them.
That first mission was great. Found myself using stealth the whole way through, which is surprising since I'm not usually a big stealth guy.
And Jensen's takedowns are so brutal lmao, some of them literally made me cringe the first time I saw them.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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1. A node with 50% of higher chance of detection will definitely get detected. Try to prioritize your captures. If there are two nodes with 35% and 50%, capture the 35% first and continue from there.bigjimmystyle said:
2. Best to follow not only the shortest path but the path with a most accessible nodes. Remember, you will get detected no matter what.
3. You can capture all the accessible nodes at the same time. At the beginning, it's best to capture as quick as you can. Fortify whenever you get that extra second cause fortification slows down the alert process.
4. My recommendation is to spend the first few augmentations on Hacking skills, preferably Hack levels (Level 1-5) and Detection rate. Reduce the detection rate to ensure the 50% or more nodes come down to 15%.
5. Do not spend money on guns. At all. You will get loads of ammo and weapons in your playthrough. When you get around 10,000 credits, spend 5,000 on a praxis kit at hospital, thus ensuring that the other 5,000 is safe incase a mission requires you to bribe someone.
6. Don't spend your praxis on armor, recoil, cloak, jump or any of the "useless" abilities either. These are all irrelevant and only necessary once you leave Detroit. Invest on hacking cause without it, you won't get to many places without confronting/attacking a few people and reading the password in their inventory/log.
7. Oh and there are special nodes like Spam and what not. They also help in slowing down the alert process. Remember: Once the countdown starts, speed up!
8. There are a abilities like Nuke and Stop virus, which can help a lot and can be either bought from gun merchant or by hacking the inventory nodes.
9. If you don't think you can make it through the hack without getting the countdown to zero, exit the hack and start over again. You won't get penalized.
TL;DR: Welcome to Detroit! Hacking will be hard in the beginning and you'll get to enjoy it as you get the right Augmentations. Spend on Hack Levels, Detection rate, Backpack upgrades, and Security access (cameras/bots), and spend it on other items only when you feel comfortable with hacking (which you wont until you are five to ten hours deep into the game. Damn long game lol) you'll start appreciating the level of combat, stealth and hacking.
EatChildren
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Corky said:err wtf
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GTX 570 (factory OC'd).
There's one specific area of the game that is completely bugged. Every second I spend there is a gamble as to whether or not the game will crash. If I'm lucky, the crash will simply be the game freezing then booting back to Windows, reporting an error. If I'm unlucky the screen fills with green graphical artifacts while the game freezes, then the image is lost completely and my screen reports no signal from the GPU, forcing me to restart the computer. Or, if I'm really lucky, I can get in and out without the game freezing at all.
I'd blame my GPU, but nowhere else in the game have I had any graphical or performance issues (other than the common ones, eg: long loading), nor have I had any problem in any other game.
Thus I am blaming the game, and I'm pretty fucking livid.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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God no. Dont invest on cloak. At all. You need to save every big of energy, and cloak sucks a lot of it. Invest to hacking level so you don't get stuck and miss out on key data.Fjordson said:
Invest on cloak 20+ hours into the game.
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