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[revolverjgw]

How hard is the hardest setting, particularly with bosses? I'm debating whether I even want to bother.

It feels exactly the same to me, for the most part, because I only rely on stealth and it doesn't seem like anything changes except damage given and taken. So of course the bosses are noticeably harder to kill and more annoying. I just cheesed them with the stun-gun or Typhoon.

 

[Stallion Free]

OK thanks. Yeah I would not be doing a pacifist thing on that difficulty. I may give it a shot.

It's piss easy as a stealth character. Just make sure you bring 3-5 mines on the relevant missions for bosses.

Even doing pacifist on it wasn't bad.

 

[Dresden]

Give Me Deus Ex is easy. It's not as forgiving if you get caught in the open, but that's about it.

 

[EatChildren]

I REALLY REALLY hope that if they do DLC for this game that it's a new hub and not just a mission level. I would easily pay 15$ if they just added Montreal into the game. Like you said, a couple side missions and a story mission or two, 4-6 hours of gameplay with new goodies to explore. SOLD.

I'm pretty sure Montreal has said they wont be using any cut content for DLC, and that the plan for DLC is to add extra adventures and side missions. I guess they dont want to rip up the existing game too much.

Personally, I'd have no problem with them building a huge expansion pack of sorts that essentially overhauls the last third of the game to include a new hub and missions. A director's cut of sorts. Alas, it wont happen.

 

[Neuromancer]

I'm pretty sure Montreal has said they wont be using any cut content for DLC, and that the plan for DLC is to add extra adventures and side missions. I guess they dont want to rip up the existing game too much.

Personally, I'd have no problem with them building a huge expansion pack of sorts that essentially overhauls the last third of the game to include a new hub and missions. A director's cut of sorts. Alas, it wont happen.

That article about the cut hubs made me think of the same thing. I wonder if any SP experience has ever been significantly altered in gaming's history through DLC. I can't think of any but it would be really interesting.

 

[Londa]

Wow I would loooove to see the upper parts of China.

 

[KorrZ]

I'm pretty sure Montreal has said they wont be using any cut content for DLC, and that the plan for DLC is to add extra adventures and side missions. I guess they dont want to rip up the existing game too much.

Personally, I'd have no problem with them building a huge expansion pack of sorts that essentially overhauls the last third of the game to include a new hub and missions. A director's cut of sorts. Alas, it wont happen.

I would absolutely prefer an expansion pack type deal as well. It doesn't have to be Montreal but really just any new Hub would be ideal. It's not that I hate the actual missions in this game, a lot of them are really well done and

Spoiler

Picus

is probably my favourite area in the game. It's just, I can't see paying 10$ for a quick mission. Walking around the hubs and finding all the little hidden secrets and paths are what I love about this game.

 

[Deadbeat]

I would like a DLC expansion that continues the story a bit. Just for more closure on certain characters. But levels that are equivalent to the first mission in the game.

 

[DryvBy]

Finally got my copy and I love it. Game is hard. I'm playing Hard as John McClane. Angry at the terrorist, he's just throwing everything at them and giving smart remarks to everyone he talks to. Yippie-ki-yay!

 

[Enco]

That would be so amazing. An entire hub as DLC, complete with 3 side missions and 3 story missions for $15 - $20.

Yup.

I wouldn't need any other single player game (save for Skyrim). Between this, BF3 and Skyrim, I'm set for life. FOR LIFE!

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

Yup.

I wouldn't need any other single player game (save for Skyrim). Between this, BF3 and Skyrim, I'm set for life. FOR LIFE!

I just want an augment wired into my brain that gets a steady stream of new hubs and missions for HR.

 

[A Human Becoming]

I snuck out of the room without being spotted, didn't even use cloak.

Impressive. You have much more patience than me.

 

[PhatSaqs]

Im interested in this and coming in totally blind. Not reading any reviews. What says you GAF?

 

[KorrZ]

Im interested in this. Not reading any reviews. What says you GAF?

Buy it. Buy it now. Don't hesitate.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

Im interested in this and coming in totally blind. Not reading any reviews. What says you GAF?

It's probably my favorite game this generation. That's my review.

 

[Neuromancer]

Im interested in this and coming in totally blind. Not reading any reviews. What says you GAF?

Take the plunge. It's awesome.

 

[Salaadin]

Im interested in this and coming in totally blind. Not reading any reviews. What says you GAF?

Its a steaming pile of crap. Dont waste your time with this garbage. Also, today is opposite day.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Im interested in this and coming in totally blind. Not reading any reviews. What says you GAF?

It's pretty good. I didn't care much for the story or the characters, but the gameplay was good.

 

[Sullichin]

Im interested in this and coming in totally blind. Not reading any reviews. What says you GAF?

if you like fallout or mass effect, you'd like this. if you want an FPS game, you might not like it.

 

[Enco]

I felt like a HUGE asshole after walking over

Spoiler

the dead bodies covered in white sheets near the end of the game

.

Also, I should have known better than to

Spoiler

get the biochip upgrade

. Those

Spoiler

moving muscle mannequins

were super creepy.

 

[PhatSaqs]

Thanks all. I'll cop it sometime this weekend

 

[Akuun]

I really hope that in a few weeks/months someone does a mod to make this more of a straight-up shooter with augs.

I'm playing stealth, ghost, foxiest of hounds, and freakin' pacifist right now, and I want to absolutely wreck fools on my next play through. But there's no ammo in the game. :-/

Oh what I'd do for a New Game Plus.

I plan to do that in my next playthrough. I'm just doing whatever I want in my first playthrough (stealth but lethal), and I don't understand the mentions about ammo. There's plenty of ammo to be had in the game. I'm near the end now, and I'm overflowing on the ammo for the guns that I use the most often.

 

[The Quiet Man]

Those

Spoiler

moving muscle mannequins

were super creepy.

I'm surprised that there's so little talk about this - that made the sequence very memorable for me.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

I plan to do that in my next playthrough. I'm just doing whatever I want in my first playthrough (stealth but lethal), and I don't understand the mentions about ammo. There's plenty of ammo to be had in the game. I'm near the end now, and I'm overflowing on the ammo for the guns that I use the most often.

The reason you aren't having problems with ammo is because you're playing stealth but lethal. If you play straight up combat as if the game were a normal FPS or TPS I would imagine that you would find yourself running out of ammo quite frequently.

 

[Solo]

Im interested in this and coming in totally blind. Not reading any reviews. What says you GAF?

Much better than IW, but not as good as DX

 

[(._.)]

I've decided I hate the hacking mingame in this game. It's just annoying and the cool down is such a waste of time. Also some amount of change goes into it and it makes it unfair. One of the few faults in this game.

 

[OG Kush]

Can someone explain this?
Met the polcie guy at the convention center.. I ask about

Spoiler

bomb

and he says some shit then adam says "Did he have the shirt too?" police guy then goes "what?" and continues on another topic. is this some inside deus ex joke?

 

[bonesmccoy]

Can someone explain this?
Met the polcie guy at the convention center.. I ask about

Spoiler

bomb

and he says some shit then adam says "Did he have the shirt too?" police guy then goes "what?" and continues on another topic. is this some inside deus ex joke?

Che shirts.

 

[eek5]

I've decided I hate the hacking mingame in this game. It's just annoying and the cool down is such a waste of time. Also some amount of change goes into it and it makes it unfair. One of the few faults in this game.

If you're about to lose, disconnect and you don't have to wait for a cooldown but it eats up one of your tries

 

[EatChildren]

Can someone explain this?
Met the polcie guy at the convention center.. I ask about

Spoiler

bomb

and he says some shit then adam says "Did he have the shirt too?" police guy then goes "what?" and continues on another topic. is this some inside deus ex joke?

The guy was quoting Che Guerva, and Jensen was joking about the shirts featuring the guy's mug that all the 'viva la revolution' wanker uni students wear. You know, this one:

 

[JohnOfMars]

I plan to do that in my next playthrough. I'm just doing whatever I want in my first playthrough (stealth but lethal), and I don't understand the mentions about ammo. There's plenty of ammo to be had in the game. I'm near the end now, and I'm overflowing on the ammo for the guns that I use the most often.

There's plenty for playing as a stealthy character. And I'm non-lethal, so maybe my concerns are unfounded, but I want to play unstealthy shooter focused next just to see how diverse the play experience can be. So when I pick up a machine pistol with 2 bullets in it, I'm not sure that unstealthy violence is an option.

 

[OG Kush]

The guy was quoting Che Guerva, and Jensen was joking about the shirts featuring the guy's mug that all the 'viva la revolution' wanker uni students wear. You know, this one:

Che shirts.

ah ok cool thanks

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

I love the game, and will continue to love the game, but i am already sensing the dying hype on here on gaf. How long till the cycle completes itself and people systematically begin to put down the game as good but not great, as opposed to the heaps of praise of those first couple days?

 

[coopolon]

I love the game, and will continue to love the game, but i am already sensing the dying hype on here on gaf. How long till the cycle completes itself and people systematically begin to put down the game as good but not great, as opposed to the heaps of praise of those first couple days?

The game starts off really strongly and ends really poorly. I think all it takes is a playthrough for the cycle you're talking about to finish.

 

[EatChildren]

I love the game, and will continue to love the game, but i am already sensing the dying hype on here on gaf. How long till the cycle completes itself and people systematically begin to put down the game as good but not great, as opposed to the heaps of praise of those first couple days?

The game starts off really strongly and ends really poorly. I think all it takes is a playthrough for the cycle you're talking about to finish.

This, basically. The very final chapter is rubbish, so its easy for a lot of people to end on a sour note.

Seems to be a curse for a lot of games like this. Bloodlines too had a shitty final act, and yet it remains one of my favourite games of all time.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

The game starts off really strongly and ends really poorly. I think all it takes is a playthrough for the cycle you're talking about to finish.

I can see that. I however, strangely liked the last level, especially my second play through as stealth.

I just love that 200 foot icarus drop.

 

[Treemonkeys]

The game starts off really strongly and ends really poorly. I think all it takes is a playthrough for the cycle you're talking about to finish.

Absolutely this. Unexpectedly it was not my expectations from the original game that caused this, but the expectations set in the first half or so of the game. After that it really tapers off to the point that I was kind of mindlessly sneaking through everything without much knowledge or concern over what was happening in the story.

Still a good game, but leaves a bitter sweet feeling where I just wish they had spent more time on it.

 

[Red Blaster]

I love the game, and will continue to love the game, but i am already sensing the dying hype on here on gaf. How long till the cycle completes itself and people systematically begin to put down the game as good but not great, as opposed to the heaps of praise of those first couple days?

When people start their second playthroughs and realize they've pretty much seen everything there is to see with the game on their first playthrough. Game doesn't have anywhere near the lasting appeal that the original had.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

The game starts off really strongly and ends really poorly. I think all it takes is a playthrough for the cycle you're talking about to finish.

I think people will blow the mediocrity of the final mission way out of proportion, as seems to be happening already. Personally I thought the gameplay of the mission wasn't very good but I enjoyed it because of the story and I loved the ending. Even so, that entire mission is probably about 3% of the entire game, although I'm sure that will be enough for some people to write the entire thing off as a "disappointing failure."

Not me though, I'll stick by HR as one of the best games of this generation, if not the best. It's not perfect but it's as close as anything I've played in years and it has completely sucked me in since last Tuesday, even into my second playthrough.

 

[HotHamWater]

NVM, didn't realize it was already out there (that's what I get for watching England).

 

[Always-honest]

I love the game, and will continue to love the game, but i am already sensing the dying hype on here on gaf. How long till the cycle completes itself and people systematically begin to put down the game as good but not great, as opposed to the heaps of praise of those first couple days?

It basicly starts after your post. Soo.. since i'm still very hyperbolicly positive about this game, i'll just elave this thread till i'm done.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

DLC info:



http://deusex.com/news/The-Missing-Link

If someone would be kind enough to make a new thread.

I'm guessing "sprawling new environments" means a few new levels and nothing close to another hub. I'll keep my expectations low but I'd love to be proven wrong.

Either way, as much as I love this game it would take some pretty crappy DLC for me not to get it.

 

[stuminus3]

When people start their second playthroughs and realize they've pretty much seen everything there is to see with the game on their first playthrough. Game doesn't have anywhere near the lasting appeal that the original had.

Which is ironically where I wish they'd taken more cues from Invisible War.

That game is super short (compared to DX and HR at least), but the nature of the mission structure means you can play it twice over and have half the game literally be completely different. HR is too rigid.

I guess the downside is that if you had a game that was structured like Invisible War but the main game lasted as long as Human Revolution you'd either run out of money or be developing it for decades. Which was always Warren Spector's issue.

Also food for thought on the "HR's last mission is garbage" thing: people say the same about Half-Life, and that's a classic.

 

[shintoki]

When people start their second playthroughs and realize they've pretty much seen everything there is to see with the game on their first playthrough. Game doesn't have anywhere near the lasting appeal that the original had.

The actual mechanics and presentation are fantastic. It really has that golden first run through.

I think the big problem is they needed more AUGs. You can do the quests and missions different, but you really can't change up the style of play. or increase difficulty.

I said it before, its a pity the game has to be on consoles too. Since it would be perfect for an expansion pack. Adding in a new hub, 6-7 new side quests, and 3 missions maybe 5-6 new AUGs. For 20-25$. It would be perfect. Instead, it looks like we are just going to get mission DLC.

 

[bigdaddygamebot]

First playthrough...

Give Me Deus Ex...

Yelena Fedrova has me inventing swear words.

I'm sitting on 9 praxis points so I'm thinking I might...

Spoiler

Destroy the electrical thingies AFTER I make myself immune to electricity...and then shoot the hell out of her.

But man...these boss fights are for the fuckin birds.

 

[Dresden]

Just spend three points in Typhoon.

 

[Arklite]

Which is ironically where I wish they'd taken more cues from Invisible War.

That game is super short (compared to DX and HR at least), but the nature of the mission structure means you can play it twice over and have half the game literally be completely different. HR is too rigid.

I don't remember that being the case with IW at all. Where did it shift?

 

[Chiggs]

I don't remember that being the case with IW at all. Where did it shift?

Your alignment with the factions and the ability to kill of major characters?

What gets me is that IW's lighting engine from 7 years ago is more advanced than HR's. Never would have believed that if you told me back in 2004.

 

[Red Blaster]

The actual mechanics and presentation are fantastic. It really has that golden first run through.

I think the big problem is they needed more AUGs. You can do the quests and missions different, but you really can't change up the style of play. or increase difficulty.

I said it before, its a pity the game has to be on consoles too. Since it would be perfect for an expansion pack. Adding in a new hub, 6-7 new side quests, and 3 missions maybe 5-6 new AUGs. For 20-25$. It would be perfect. Instead, it looks like we are just going to get mission DLC.

The lack of difficulty is killer. The game is pathetically easy even on Deus Ex difficulty because you get a billion praxis points. Being a super armored, cloaking hacker with a souped up silenced 10mm pistol is boring.

 

[Treemonkeys]

Which is ironically where I wish they'd taken more cues from Invisible War.

That game is super short (compared to DX and HR at least), but the nature of the mission structure means you can play it twice over and have half the game literally be completely different. HR is too rigid.

I guess the downside is that if you had a game that was structured like Invisible War but the main game lasted as long as Human Revolution you'd either run out of money or be developing it for decades. Which was always Warren Spector's issue.

Also food for thought on the "HR's last mission is garbage" thing: people say the same about Half-Life, and that's a classic.

Personally I don't think it's so much that the last mission is garbage, it's poor and that is a small piece of it. More challenging and more interesting enemies should be standard closure for an action game, not easier/stupider. In the very least, a challenging boss and exciting boss fight at the end.

Much more than that though, for me at least, was the severe cut of story presentation towards the end. In detroit you are presenting with cut scenes, in depth conversations with main characters, side conversations with other characters, and lots of conversations to listen in on to further flesh out the world. All of this becomes virtually non-existent by the end of the game, when the story should be getting MORE interesting and MORE exciting, the presentation drastically tapers off. That is the biggest problem for me, not the actually gameplay or length of the ending, but how it is presented.

Still an amazing game, and still one of the best this year - but I don't exactly like many new games these days. Witcher 2 blows it out of the fucking water with pure fun and grin factor. Even though that also gets complaints about the ending, you get epic boss fights, epic new scenery, epic new armor, and solid focus on closing out the story in the end.