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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided I Review Thread I I asked for this
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Intheflorsh
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That's actually pretty good.
12 hours with 90% of the side quests... Somethings seems off but eh.
Xaero Gravity
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Sweet Jesus I hope not. Narrative wise, MGSV is my biggest disappointment in quite some time.
He said that while he did go on killing sprees at times he also used vents a lot to skip encounters and areas which meant he went through the levels fast.
You can go through any DE game quite quickly if you do that and 12 hours is actually quite reasonable in that sense.
It's one thing to just disagree, but I don't think dismissing criticism as "people just being offended" helps facilitate a rational discussion.
badcrumble
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I think this'll probably have some postgame DLC.
Utterly delighted to hear that it's got new game plus, by the way.
Utterly delighted to hear that it's got new game plus, by the way.
True, you can skip a lot of stuff in those games.
If racism ends up being shallow and hamfisted game mechanic in Mafia 3 I don't think it can get free pass just because "Well at least they tried within realities of a time and place". If they fuck up handling that topic then they need get called out on it, but we don't know yet as game isn't out. What devs have said about mechanic doesn't sound that much better than MD's on-the-nose approach of its topics.
Augs afaik
Kenzodielocke
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What do you carry over to NG+ ?
MasterMenace
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You carry over all your augmentations. That's all I know. I don't even know if you can carry over weapons and inventory stuff?
Intheflorsh
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Also sounds like the non-stealth combat isn't amazing, surprising since that's the thing they said they were really overhauling.
I don't know, if the the game feels like it's missing a last act or like content has been cut out I could see that being a valid comparison. I hope not, but we'll see.
Well sure, but I hope you see why people are more willing to give Mafia 3 the benefit of the doubt for the time being. At least they haven't been so in-your-face edgy with it in the marketing.
I don't know, if the the game feels like it's missing a last act or like content has been cut out I could see that being a valid comparison. I hope not, but we'll see.
Well sure, but I hope you see why people are more willing to give Mafia 3 the benefit of the doubt for the time being. At least they haven't been so in-your-face edgy with it in the marketing.
Laurentius
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Kenzodielocke
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Watching UPF right now, Jeff says that the side quests are where the game's story is. Main arc is too video gamey and generic.
orthodoxy1095
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Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Ehh, that's the same bit of horseshit I heard with XBX and I ended up being bored to tears, I hope that's not the case here.
Kenzodielocke
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Yeah, I thought of The Witcher 3, too. Great side content, meh main story arc.
I think a lot of games have a mediocre main story, but gread side stories. Just because they're smaller in scope so you can focus more on telling a simple little story. Haven't played XBX.
demosthenes
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Will beat it within a month and then shelf my NG+ until the DLC comes out just like Dark Souls 3.
White Wolf
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seems like it. witcher 3 main story is good but some of the side quests were fucking amazing, especially the red baron quest line. maybe mankind divided is similar.
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White Wolf
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what rig did he play on? and did he report specific performances?
badcrumble
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If anything, it reminds me of how Assassin's Creed Brotherhood scaled things down to one central more-detailed setting (as opposed to Assassin's Creed 2's and Human Revolution's multiple cities), tweaks the gameplay to improve it in some key ways, provides some deeply rewarding power boosts, but doesn't necessarily do much to move the story forward. I think this is their "make sure we completely nail the gameplay and level/quest design" game and I'm fine with that.
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Kenzodielocke
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ibn Saïd;214294635 said:
I think he had a 980 ? Don't know if he already upgraded to a 1070.
He could've also played it on their office PC's, which have 770s and one has a 970.
MaverickHunterAsh
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Man... the common complaint about the story being a disappointment and falling short of Human Revolution's has really kind of stymied my hype. I was so drawn into Human Revolution's world and narrative setup by that first E3 trailer and the story eventually told within the game itself, and I had kind of assumed/expected that Mankind Divided would act as a natural extension of or conclusion to the conspiracies introduced in Human Revolution... but the reviews kind of make it sound like that's not the case and Mankind Divided's story feels smaller and less ambitious.
It's great to hear that the gameplay is fantastic, but I pretty much knew it would be and that's not what I primarily care about going into Mankind Divided. Human Revolution is almost the last kind of game I would ever choose to play because I normally can't stand FPSs or stealth in general, but the story in HR was just so damn great that I was able to embrace the gameplay.
If the story isn't as much of a driving force in Mankind Divided, I don't know if just the gameplay will carry me through it. My gaming time is so limited these days too that I can't exactly just take a chance on it and hope the story pans out for me, so... man.
I've been so hyped for this game... not sure what to think now. Looking forward to hearing GAF's impressions.
It's great to hear that the gameplay is fantastic, but I pretty much knew it would be and that's not what I primarily care about going into Mankind Divided. Human Revolution is almost the last kind of game I would ever choose to play because I normally can't stand FPSs or stealth in general, but the story in HR was just so damn great that I was able to embrace the gameplay.
If the story isn't as much of a driving force in Mankind Divided, I don't know if just the gameplay will carry me through it. My gaming time is so limited these days too that I can't exactly just take a chance on it and hope the story pans out for me, so... man.
I've been so hyped for this game... not sure what to think now. Looking forward to hearing GAF's impressions.
Well do you really blame them considering in Deus Ex the plot centres around it and it's right up there in the name while in Mafia it's just an added detail?
CrichtonKicks
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ibn Saïd;214294536 said:
Red Baron is part of the main story.
Deadly Cyclone
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I have the game, it's solid overall. Much deeper systems than the previous and the stealth and levels are better. More verticality, etc. Runs solid on PC as well.
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grosvenor_92
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Despite issues with the story it sounds like a solid enough sequel. Going to hold off on picking up a copy for now though
Red Baron is awful to me (ymmv), so I'm hoping W3 elements don't seep into other games like this one. Let CDPR fans wait for Cyberpunk.
When is your review going to be up? Are you enjoying the story?
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Karak
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Still working on it all right now.
Golden_Pigeon
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Great to know that Karak, i hope you don't mean that side story is as "meh" as the story..
Very eager to see your review.
I doubt it will be. The actual story in Human Revolution was nothing particularly special, its strengths lay elsewhere. Mankind Divided will be the same, and that's fine. This really sounds like one of the most cut and dry sequels I have ever heard of - more or less the same strengths and weaknesses as its predecessor.
MasterMenace
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This might be the reasoning for the so-called abrupt ending in MD. Apparently they are tracking our decisions in the game to plan for a possible sequel. This could explain why the story just stopped abruptly? Also could allude to Jim Sterling's previous comments about how this game was chopped up into 3 games and MD is now "part 1" of the trilogy?
"Eidos Montreal reveals it has learned from its mistake with Deus Ex: Human Revolution, and will track all your decisions in its sequel, Mankind Divided."
Q: "Human Revolution had a couple of endings. Did you ever consider tracking player's choices in that game so the ending could transfer to Mankind Divided?"
A: "For the previous game, Human Revolution, we didn't have any technology to track your actions. When we started Mankind Divided, we felt we needed to take a bit of truth from all the four endings so players could feel that, 'okay, this kind of makes sense for me.' Plus we kept things a bit more mysterious to start Mankind Divided, saying that such a big event would probably suffer from a lot of misinformation from civilians and the news.
As for this new game, we don't know whether there will be another Deus Ex game or not. However, we are tracking your choices and the consequences in Mankind Divided. When you're done, we seal your save game file with everything that you've done and that's gonna give us the option in the future. If we’re lucky enough to work on a sequel, we can use that as a stepping stone for you to come in and continue where you left off. So we have changed our approach to tracking your progress."
This might be the reasoning for the so-called abrupt ending in MD. Apparently they are tracking our decisions in the game to plan for a possible sequel. This could explain why the story just stopped abruptly? Also could allude to Jim Sterling's previous comments about how this game was chopped up into 3 games and MD is now "part 1" of the trilogy?
"Eidos Montreal reveals it has learned from its mistake with Deus Ex: Human Revolution, and will track all your decisions in its sequel, Mankind Divided."
Q: "Human Revolution had a couple of endings. Did you ever consider tracking player's choices in that game so the ending could transfer to Mankind Divided?"
A: "For the previous game, Human Revolution, we didn't have any technology to track your actions. When we started Mankind Divided, we felt we needed to take a bit of truth from all the four endings so players could feel that, 'okay, this kind of makes sense for me.' Plus we kept things a bit more mysterious to start Mankind Divided, saying that such a big event would probably suffer from a lot of misinformation from civilians and the news.
As for this new game, we don't know whether there will be another Deus Ex game or not. However, we are tracking your choices and the consequences in Mankind Divided. When you're done, we seal your save game file with everything that you've done and that's gonna give us the option in the future. If we’re lucky enough to work on a sequel, we can use that as a stepping stone for you to come in and continue where you left off. So we have changed our approach to tracking your progress."
Eh? You don't agree that the story isn't that great, or you don't agree with the story of the game.
Pancake Mix
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Very impressed, definitely keeping my pre-order. Eidos Montreal delivers. I indeed asked for this.
CrichtonKicks
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Only the final portion of his storyline is optional. It's an important one, to be sure, but it's only one optional quest. The rest of the Bloody Baron story is part of the critical quest line.
This. It spins off a side story quest line after a certain point and that's depended upon you but the bulk of it is part of the main story. I always get confused when someone says the whole thing was a side story and question if I was wrong. So if Mankind Divided is like that that's fine. From some of the trailers it seems you have more freedom to explore and what you do determines how things could unfold or what you could stumble upon. The Prague demo has the devs outright say this as they're running through it. They mentioned if they went one way it would trigger a mission/quest that might last an hour but take you away from what you were originally trying to do I believe or another way would cause things to unfold a different way for example.
I would imagine or hope that the more side stuff you do the more that might influence the ending or maybe even the main story or just the world around you. One of the things I wanted more off when I played Deus Ex Human Revolution was more of the world. For all the freedom you might have in a given level it's overall a pretty linear game.
Icyflamez96
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We already know there will be a new trilogy to come with the Deus Ex Universe stuff. MD was always supposed to be part 1, so if Jim Sterling's statement is actually true, that would mean part 1 of the DE trilogy is getting split up into 3 parts.
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