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[MasterMenace]

man, i really need to vent. i got the game early and just finished it (ps4). what a fucking joke.

there are no story spoilers, but i decided to put my impressions in spoiler tags, since they cover the whole game.

the game is much shorter than human revolution (i did 90% of the side quests and was able to finish it within 12 hours or so)

Uhh, wut??

So let me get this straight..you beat the game doing the campaign and "90%" of the side quests in 12 hours?

 

[S1kkZ]

Uhh, wut??

got the game 2 days ago, played for 4 hours. yesterday another 4, this morning 2 and then another 2 hours (normal difficulty).

 

[Maintenance]

got the game 2 days ago, played for 4 hours. yesterday another 4, this morning 2 and then another 2 hours (normal difficulty).

Incoming "you should play at X difficulty to have the whole experience".

 

[Lashley]

Is there a sale going on or something?

Dogma was on sale, sick of waiting for HITMAN, so bit the bullet, and FM is my most played game every year, so that was a no brainer

 

[flozuki]

got the game 2 days ago, played for 4 hours. yesterday another 4, this morning 2 and then another 2 hours (normal difficulty).

KHADD! So you are not satisfied?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

got the game 2 days ago, played for 4 hours. yesterday another 4, this morning 2 and then another 2 hours (normal difficulty).

Disappointing on the length. Looks like I'll definitely get it on pc with a sale or discount then.

 

[S1kkZ]

KHADD! So you are not satisfied?

gameplay is great, story/lenght/ending are a big "fuck you buy some dlc!"

there is some replay value, and the 2 remaining quests should add maybe 2 hours or so.

 

[StereoVsn]

man, i really need to vent. i got the game early and just finished it (ps4). what a fucking joke.

there are no story spoilers, but i decided to put my impressions in spoiler tags, since they cover the whole game.

Spoiler

- the game is much shorter than human revolution (i did 90% of the side quests and was able to finish it within 12 hours or so)
- only 1 hub, seperated into 4 areas. there is one mission in a more open area that could be considered a hub, but its not even close to human revolutions second hub.
the prague hub is pretty big, but the lack of a real second hub has a big impact on variety.
- the ending...holy fuck. the game just ends, you dont see it coming. when the trophy showed up, i was speechless. this isnt a complete story, this is a fucking tv-show pilot with the rest of the season missing (probably coming via dlc).
- the game itself (mechanics, gameplay) is great. like i said, an improved human revolution.
-stealth/hacking is way to powerful, much more than in hr.
- breach mode is fun
- performance on ps4 is fine, except for the hub. here, you have to deal with some massive stutter and framedrops. also rare short freezes.
-side wuests are pretty great, i just expected a lot more of them.

cant wait for the spoiler thread to read what others think of it (maybe i overreact?).
and dont freak out: these are my impressions. its not a universal opinion.

Huh, its really weird this is not mentioned anywhere in reviews. Most say 20+ hours for the story and another 10-20 for the sidequests. This is kind of worrying and bullshit if true.

Edit:

Disappointing on the length. Looks like I'll definitely get it on pc with a sale or discount then.

I'll get it on PC around Black Friday/Winter sale and hopefully performance will be patched up as well and DLC plans will be clear.

 

[Laurentius]

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[Turin Turambar]

man, i really need to vent. i got the game early and just finished it (ps4). what a fucking joke.

there are no story spoilers, but i decided to put my impressions in spoiler tags, since they cover the whole game.

Spoiler

- the game is much shorter than human revolution (i did 90% of the side quests and was able to finish it within 12 hours or so)
- only 1 hub, seperated into 4 areas. there is one mission in a more open area that could be considered a hub, but its not even close to human revolutions second hub.
the prague hub is pretty big, but the lack of a real second hub has a big impact on variety.
- the ending...holy fuck. the game just ends, you dont see it coming. when the trophy showed up, i was speechless. this isnt a complete story, this is a fucking tv-show pilot with the rest of the season missing (probably coming via dlc).
- the game itself (mechanics, gameplay) is great. like i said, an improved human revolution.
-stealth/hacking is way to powerful, much more than in hr.
- breach mode is fun
- performance on ps4 is fine, except for the hub. here, you have to deal with some massive stutter and framedrops. also rare short freezes.
-side wuests are pretty great, i just expected a lot more of them.

cant wait for the spoiler thread to read what others think of it (maybe i overreact?).
and dont freak out: these are my impressions. its not a universal opinion.

Spoiler

-stealth/hacking is way to powerful, much more than in hr.

But it was already too good in HR. Enemies had blinders, and were almost deaf, and there were abundant tools (ammo for the stun gun for example) to finish everyone in stealthy ways.

 

[d00d3n]

got the game 2 days ago, played for 4 hours. yesterday another 4, this morning 2 and then another 2 hours (normal difficulty).

You obviously didn't place all enemy bodies in neat stacks! Or spent 5 hours breaking difficult computers with quickload and random luck! Or insisted on 100% non-lethal takedowns, undetected throughout the entire game!

Fortunately, that shit adds up, so I fully expect to get a good 50 hours out of the game.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Huh, its really weird this is not mentioned anywhere in reviews. Most say 20+ hours for the story and another 10-20 for the sidequests. This is kind of worrying and bullshit if true.

Consider different play styles though. The guy playing guns blazing is gonna beat this faster than the guy doing ghost and stealth

 

[Robobandit]

I spent over 40 hrs on HR, I expect I'll get a similar amount of time out of this one..

I like to sneak around, hack every computer and terminal, read every ebook, every email, etc.

 

[[HP]]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvbkwjk9ML8

Deus Ex Retrospective - Part 1 - Easy Allies

I used to love GameTrailers retrospectives, now the staff is doing one for DeusEx!

 

[S1kkZ]

I spent over 40 hrs on HR, I expect I'll get a similar amount of time out of this one..

I like to sneak around, hack every computer and terminal, read every ebook, every email, etc.

if you do this and want to play as a ghost, you should easily get 20 hours out of it. i played mostly stealthy.

and please: dont get to hung up on the (estimated, i didnt use a stopwatch) lenght of my playthrough.
the problems with the game are elsewere.

 

[Maintenance]

I got basically all the HR achievements on steam (except the ones that required a no kill run) under 21 hours. I never expected MD to be a 20-30h game, but 12 is kinda surprising.

I want the spoiler thread to open so I can understand why you did not like the ending though, that's my biggest fear.

 

[Jonbo298]

I wish more sites did reviews of the PC version.

Developers/Publishers need to step up to the plate. They're the ones at fault for not doing this more often anymore.

On a separate note, I'm not too surprised about the benchmarks for PC. Nixxes has a good history porting things and I expect this to run fine with my 1060. I may have to turn down a few settings but I'm still getting a better visual experience than on a console.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

if you do this and want to play as a ghost, you should easily get 20 hours out of it. i played mostly stealthy.

Wait you played stealth and still only got 12 hours? Now I'm worried

 

[[HP]]

Developers/Publishers need to step up to the plate. They're the ones at fault for not doing this more often anymore.

They need to get on this, fast! PC is more alive than ever, and it's growing.

 

[BadTaste]

got the game 2 days ago, played for 4 hours. yesterday another 4, this morning 2 and then another 2 hours (normal difficulty).

Fine with me, I was ready for HR to end only moments into Panchaea.

 

[Rellik]

Wait you played stealth and still only got 12 hours? Now I'm worried

Yeah I keep seeing this mentioned now.

I think I'm going to wait for a Steam sale. This sounds way too short for me to buy at full price.

 

[Tovarisc]

got the game 2 days ago, played for 4 hours. yesterday another 4, this morning 2 and then another 2 hours (normal difficulty).

Huh. Interesting difference between your time played and reviewers who mention time played. ~14h vs ~35h

 

[S1kkZ]

Wait you played stealth and still only got 12 hours? Now I'm worried

it didnt always work out. i had to resort to "kill everyone" here and there.
if you use the vents, you can skip whole combat/stealth sections. and i used a lot of vents.

a different playstyle (and difficulty) and it could easily take 16+ hours.

 

[StrikeFirst117]

Last playthrough of Human revolution director's cut took me 30 hours, so I'm hoping for something like 20-25 for Mankind Divided. The reviews seem pretty decent though.

 

[rdytoroll]

Anyone else that has the game for PS4 know how to get the Day One Edition DLC? Registering the game on the Square Enix site is supposed to give you a PSN code, but there's no code to be found after registering.

 

[commish]

it didnt always work out. i had to resort to "kill everyone" here and there.
if you use the vents, you can skip whole combat/stealth sections. and i used a lot of vents.

a different playstyle (and difficulty) and it could easily take 16+ hours.

That's pretty disappointing. That puts the game into "buy later" territory, tbh. Need to spend wisely this fall. Too much to get.

 

[S1kkZ]

That's pretty disappointing. That puts the game into "buy later" territory, tbh. Need to spend wisely this fall. Too much to get.

you shouldnt decide to (not) buy a game, based on one opinion. the game is not even out yet and there will be plenty of other (and better written) opinions next week.

 

[Allnamestakenlol]

If it turns out to be on the short side, well...at least I got a 25% discount from GMG (and tax free), so I can't be too upset. If I'd paid $60 + tax, I'd be pretty cheesed.

 

[Caleb187]

I'm personally excited that the campaign is shorter. I find many long campaigns have a lot of padding that slows it down. That and I guess I'm getting old.

 

[Mechazawa]

PS4 is 750TI. It will choke on this game at 1080p even on Medium I would wager.

The analogous card to a PS4 is a 7970, and if there can roughly be a 60-90fps difference between Medium and Ultra on a 980ti, then 17-23fps on the highest settings makes perfect sense for that card.

Nothing about this looks very atypical, outside of the difference between High and Ultra not looking crazy enough to warrant the difference in framerate.

 

[Jonbo298]

They need to get on this, fast! PC is more alive than ever, and it's growing.

I agree wholeheartedly. They're too afraid anymore, especially after the hellish launches in 2015 for PC. They don't have anyone to blame but themselves for piss poor performance at launch (obvious exceptions for people that think their Phenom II paired with a GTX 260 should be able to run AAA games of today without problems). I'm just really glad Valve changed the refund process in June of last year to be much more consumer friendly. Watching devs/pubs respond quickly to widespread issues because refunds are rolling through hard is the wakeup call this industry has needed.

 

[Sinatar]

Do any of the reviews mention if they fixed the shitty experience system from HR?

The fact that the game gave more xp for doing things certain ways was a massive massive misfire and I really hope they fixed it.

 

[Rodin]

The analogous card to a PS4 is a 7970, and if there can roughly be a 60-90fps difference between Medium and Ultra on a 980ti, then 17-23fps on the highest settings makes perfect sense for that card.

Nothing about this looks very atypical, outside of the difference between High and Ultra not looking crazy enough to warrant the difference in framerate.

Nope, the PS4 has a "7850+". 7970 is way more powerful.

 

[Mechazawa]

Nope, the PS4 has a "7850+". 7970 is way more powerful.

Ah, my mistake then.

 

[Skux]

The perfect game to upgrade to a 1070 for. Looking forward to it.

 

[Nags]

Only 12 hours with 90% sidequests done? That sucks.

 

[DukeBobby]

I'm personally excited that the campaign is shorter. I find many long campaigns have a lot of padding that slows it down. That and I guess I'm getting old.

A shorter campaign is fine. A campaign that's shorter due to an abrupt ending is not.

 

[Mad Season]

Yeah I keep seeing this mentioned now.

I think I'm going to wait for a Steam sale. This sounds way too short for me to buy at full price.

whats wrong with buying it now for $36?

 

[S1kkZ]

A shorter campaign is fine. A campaign that's shorter due to an abrupt ending is not.

even if it would have taken me 30+ hours until the ending, i still would have been diappointed. the problem is not the lenght (there is replay value and breach, which is pretty fun). the problem is that it feels like there was some pretty significant content taken out/left unanswered, so that they can sell you the "jensen stories" as dlc (which of course, has its own section in the main menu).

 

[Nzyme32]

Yeah I keep seeing this mentioned now.

I think I'm going to wait for a Steam sale. This sounds way too short for me to buy at full price.

Even if the game is 12hrs total for me playing everything I want, that would still justify the £23 I spent. I am still hoping that I get more hours out of it that just that though. Generally I will take longer than most as I explore and get lost in games like this. Considering no outlets have mentioned that kind of length yet, I doubt I will finish the game so quickly

 

[Nags]

whats wrong with buying it now for $36?

Buying a game that is cut short and likely to finish in the DLC? I see everything wrong with that. I'll buy it with the DLC when I can get it all together for $30. Probably rent it on console first to see if its worth it.

even if it would have taken me 30+ hours until the ending, i still would have been diappointed. the problem is not the lenght (there is replay value and breach, which is pretty fun). the problem is that it feels like there was some pretty significant content taken out/left unanswered, so that they can sell you the "jensen stories" as dlc (which of course, has its own section in the main menu).

What the fuck.

 

[BearPawB]

Buying a game that is cut short and likely to finish in the DLC? I see everything wrong with that. I'll buy it with the DLC when I can get it all together for $30. Probably rent it on console first to see if its worth it.

*edit never mind i read the thing wrong

 

[Tovarisc]

Even if the game is 12hrs total for me playing everything I want, that would still justify the £23 I spent. I am still hoping that I get more hours out of it that just that though. Generally I will take longer than most as I explore and get lost in games like this. Considering no outlets have mentioned that kind of length yet, I doubt I will finish the game so quickly

I'm genuinely interested why reviews imply ~30+ hours of gameplay while S1kkZ nailed it all in half of that.

 

[Nags]

You can buy the game and the DLC together for $35 right now

Holy shit! on GMG?

 

[S1kkZ]

I'm genuinely interested why reviews imply ~30+ hours of gameplay while S1kkZ nailed it all in half of that.

because people play games differently.

 

[Window]

because people play games differently.

How long/interesting were the Jensen stories (if you have the DLC)?

 

[BearPawB]

Holy shit! on GMG?

cdkeys

Turns out it went up in price from when I bought it the other day. Is now $39

 

[S1kkZ]

How long/interesting were the Jensen stories (if you have the DLC)?

nothing up yet. the menu only says that you need to be careful when playing the dlc, since it spoils the ending of the campaign.

 

[Tovarisc]

because people play games differently.

That is still very drastic difference, especially when you went "slower" route by taking stealth and still did basically all relevant content. Did reviewers put game on and AFK total of 15h? Just interesting and drastic difference.

Can't wait to play MD myself tho and see what kind hours my style gives.

 

[Rudiano]

it didnt always work out. i had to resort to "kill everyone" here and there.
if you use the vents, you can skip whole combat/stealth sections. and i used a lot of vents.

a different playstyle (and difficulty) and it could easily take 16+ hours.

This. Some parts I used vents and voila I was at the end lol I was half way through the game and I had only used the cloak, melee and tranquilizer rifle. So I forced myself to start playing aggressive, I wish they would force the action onto us and not allow us to stealth everything.