HerroRygar
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Wait, what? I haven't heard of the terrible PC performance...
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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided I Review Thread I I asked for this
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Wait, what? I haven't heard of the terrible PC performance...
BoosterDuck
Banned
thanks breh, but we should all be thanking the king himself Sean Murray
you get more xp for hacking/stealth/non lethal.
So where are people getting it's short? Just because of the abrupt ending?
Either way, I was okay with HR's story so I'm not worried about this. I also love to go through all the emails and recorders and what not, the same shit happened with Quantum Break where people claimed it was short because they rushed through it and didn't pay attention to the narrative. I ended up with a solid 14 hours in that game, I bet the same happens with this. So many people just rush through story driven games these days it's mind boggling.
There is one benchmark out in which game demolishes basically all GPU's @ Ultra settings. What benchmark doesn't do is explain what settings are actually doing at Ultra level so we have no any actual idea why game is so heavy on Ultra.
I wouldn't draw "Port is pure shait! Abort mission!" conclusions from just one benchmark, that doesn't even bench lower settings.
You can't max the game on 1080P on a 1080. That's enough to know it's going to be a hassle to configure for me.
I have a 980 ti and knowing that even very high (not ultra) doesn't get me 60 fps is going to cause me to tweak the graphic options for ages and not really enjoy the game. I don't want that. I'd rather wait till they release optimization patches or if someone releases a tweaking guide or something.
And a supbar story in a Deus Ex game ? No thanks.
Abrupt ending I guess. Well there is also one GAFfer, S1kkZ if I remember right, who said he did all side and main content in ~14h which is only half of what reviewers clocked. That has some people concerned.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I've played 16 hours myself and completely agree with everything that he said. So it's not like I didn't played the game and do not understand how everything works in it. There's barely anything that works in it cuz it's bare bones concept with literally nothing that can be called a game.
There's zero story, zero characters, zero world, races and lore bulding, zero game design (everything is procedurally generated), zero meaningful, interesting and satisfying gameplay and mechanics, zero fucking anything you can possibly imagine in a fully fledged AAA (and NMS is marketed and positioned as a AAA game and it's fucking not in any way, shape or form) or even goddamn B game that is actually feature complete right from the start and it doesn't matter if it's good or not.
Overreaction doesn't even begin to cover it, really. If the gameplay is the same, if not improved like most of the reviews say, then I am good to go.
not all of the side content, skipped 2 missions (which could lead to more side missions).
and thanks to the overpowered stealth + vents, i was able to breeze through most of the areas within a few minutes.
Well, the presentation of mails and everything besides the main story parts in QB was horrible so it isn't suprising that many people skipped them. And since Remedy unfortunately hasn't delivered what was promised and underdelivered compared to their earlier works it is no suprise that the few people that bought it wanted to get finished with it quickly.
On the positive side MD is leagues ahead in my opinion.
KINGofCRA5H
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Seriously? Yeesh.
BoosterDuck
Banned
Money is definitely no problem since I got this sucker for $36 from Games Republic ( ≖‿≖
I hope Deus Ex: Mankind Awakens makes up for this game's story though
Thanks for your feedback. I'll go for it on NMS, need a new game to play and from the sound of it I'll get at least more than 25 hours.
I really can't excuse how they butchered Deus Ex. I had some pretty high hopes for the future of the series, but it looks like SE doesn't. Breach mode being used as some leverage to excuse the lack of main game content. Who are they kidding here?
Oh wait, I forgot, they also turned Deus Ex into a tablet game before making a sequel.
MasterMenace
Member
see my big post above
Guys I'm torn. Never played a Deus ex game but have this pre ordered for a really good deal.
All the videos I have seen make it seem very budget, slow paced and very been there done that look to it. Should I pass? What am I missing because it seems like it's very much anticipated.
All the videos I have seen make it seem very budget, slow paced and very been there done that look to it. Should I pass? What am I missing because it seems like it's very much anticipated.
Crimsonclaw111
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BoosterDuck
Banned
You do realize No Man's Sky will be forgotten in a month and won't be franchised with sequels and books and spinoffs like Deus Ex right?
The story in Human Revolution was absolute trash anyway so this doesn't surprise me. Even if reviews were saying it was good it would probably still be junk cos Eidos Montreal looked at all the cool stuff in the original Deus Ex and thought 'ah, right, it's about robots! we can do robots!!!' when that was a small part of the actual world and wasn't really the focus of anything.
This game'll be pretty good. All they need to do is have a decent amount of stuff to explore, some nice ambient music and maybe a side quest or two which is accidentally interesting. I'm sure they can pull it off!
This game'll be pretty good. All they need to do is have a decent amount of stuff to explore, some nice ambient music and maybe a side quest or two which is accidentally interesting. I'm sure they can pull it off!
Lol Geforce experience is SHIT.
Icyflamez96
Member
To be fair, considering that HR is covering the reniassaince period, it's probably reasonable that it focused more on the robot stuff than the original might have.
BoosterDuck
Banned
What do you mean with "robots"? Mechanical augs? You know right that HR and MD takes place before nano augs exist. HR and original DX both had plenty robots as sentries, patrolling streets etc.
Meh, I'm a little OCD when it gets to graphics tweaking. I can't handle this lol.
BoosterDuck
Banned
So you're telling me You Never Asked for This?!
Maintenance
Member
Why does every thread is turning into a NMS thread in the gaming side? That's like how every DC movie thread turns into Thor 2 The Dark World thread.
I mean Deus Ex was really about conspiracies in general and they threw in lots of depth and references to real world conspiracies, then mixed it with their own ideas. Human Revolution had zero depth it was just about 'Augs', and this seems to be the same, and they think they are doing something good by providing us with this baby level augs vs norms racism allegory a 12 year old could write.
I said robots being facetious, but my general point is Deus Ex had a pretty wide ranging bunch of topics to play with, and some actual real world knowledge that implied there was even more going on than the game directly presents you with, while Human Revolution creates its own extremely thin and uninspired mythology and just stays within it almost entirely.
Ravensmash
Member
Well, I'm enjoying it.
Put a few hours into it but haven't really done much in terms of completion.
It feels like a natural evolution of HR so far, and this is fine for me.
Put a few hours into it but haven't really done much in terms of completion.
It feels like a natural evolution of HR so far, and this is fine for me.
Uhh...
Saucycarpdog
Member
Basic math.
Lots of hype + Disappointment = Lots of moaning and groaning
OT: I don't mind if the story isn't that good. People said the same about HR's story and I thought that was good enough to have a good time with the game. As long as the same characters and themes and cyberpunk atmosphere are there again, I will be satisfied.
So does putting yourself in a state of extreme anxiety have some benefit that I just didn't get the memo about? Jesus people love to get themselves all worried over one or two people saying that they don't like something.
The game is going to be fine. Everything is going to be fine.
The game is going to be fine. Everything is going to be fine.
Rotch Crot
Banned
Whats with the length complaining? I haven't read length anywhere yet.
Abrupt ending
~30h according reviewers
One GAFfer did most of the games content in ~14h
Sky started to fall
Ravensmash
Member
The game is so good, that people are complaining that it's not double the length.
In all seriousness, some people are saying that the ending is fairly abrupt.
Edit: And whoever managed to complete most of the games content in 14 hours must have a very different playstyle to my own.
Strife In a Teacup
Member
Got my gtx 1060 and I'm pre-loading the deluxe edition now. I definitely ask for this/my body is ready.
Massive overreactions. Gut feeling is most of us will still get at least 20 hours out of it, which is great. Let's actually wait a week or so until people have had a chance to play, before we burn Squenix at the stake.
ed- I have 21 hours logged on HR and 8 on Missing Link. I'm totally fine with that.
That's my feeling. I burned through HR and all side missions in about 24 hours, and thats with reading every computer / note ect I came across.
Missing link was about 6. I've also replayed HR/ML/DC about 6 times all together. I'll just wait and draw my own conclusions, especially about the story since that is such a high subjective matter.
spiderferi
Member
No one in this thread has talked about the game's soundtrack. I want it to be perfect like Human Revolution.
(please ignore the bad sub portion!)
A game is not poorly optimized if you can't max it out. There are graphics options that today's cards just can't handle well which includes true global illumination along with soft shadows/contact shadows.
All you have to do is run Deus Ex with a mix of ultra and high, problem solved. And if you want to put in 0 effort to figure out what to use, just run it high. Or wait a few hours after release and Gaf (or perhaps Nvidia will post a Deus Ex Geforce experience website with detailed analysis) will figure it out for you. Sites that only post a few benchmarks just with ultra settings are useless, especially since 4x or 8x MSAA and contact shadows are so costly to use.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
Canceled preorders and NMS comparisons. What even is.
I played through Human Revolution twice this past week and they give hints of the greater conspiracy. But the majority of the game is "find out who kidnapped the scientists."
I'm not saying reading emails and datapads is bad. But I'm saying we don't know if reviewers did that when they played through it to be able to judge the story appropriately. I mean I could be wrong and it could be MGSV for all I know. But the preorder cancel talk and NMS comparisons is just ridiculous fear mongering. For as disappointing as MGSV's lack of story and ending are, the gameplay was topnotch. And that's the primary factor I'm interested in with MD considering I didn't think the story of HR was all that either.
I played through Human Revolution twice this past week and they give hints of the greater conspiracy. But the majority of the game is "find out who kidnapped the scientists."
You don't unravel the shadowy hand behind it all and you never confront them at the end. You don't even know if the machine you destroy was malevolent or part of the grand illuminati plan or how it fits in there along with Panchea.
I'm not saying reading emails and datapads is bad. But I'm saying we don't know if reviewers did that when they played through it to be able to judge the story appropriately. I mean I could be wrong and it could be MGSV for all I know. But the preorder cancel talk and NMS comparisons is just ridiculous fear mongering. For as disappointing as MGSV's lack of story and ending are, the gameplay was topnotch. And that's the primary factor I'm interested in with MD considering I didn't think the story of HR was all that either.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
nah, it's pretty good.
NMS doesnt have more content at all, unless you count every single boring samey empty planet content individually , content of which 98% you will never go to either. And nevermind with such a shallow depth of gameplay where the game gets old after 8 hours.
Static Veins
Member
What the...
When I was in this thread yesterday everyone seemed really hyped on the game after the mostly glowing reviews and today I come back to countless "pre-order cancelled" and "Square clearly don't care about this franchise" posts.
...the hell happened?!
When I was in this thread yesterday everyone seemed really hyped on the game after the mostly glowing reviews and today I come back to countless "pre-order cancelled" and "Square clearly don't care about this franchise" posts.
...the hell happened?!
(please ignore the bad sub portion!)
A game is not poorly optimized if you can't max it out. There are graphics options that today's cards just can't handle well which includes true global illumination along with soft shadows/contact shadows.
All you have to do is run Deus Ex with a mix of ultra and high, problem solved. And if you want to put in 0 effort to figure out what to use, just run it high. Or wait a few hours after release and Gaf (or perhaps Nvidia will post a Deus Ex Geforce experience website with detailed analysis) will figure it out for you. Sites that only post a few benchmarks just with ultra settings are useless, especially since 4x or 8x MSAA and contact shadows are so costly to use.
It's a personal decision and I wasn't really complaining. I know I could do what you said but I know I won't and won't be able to play the game without thinking " should I lower this setting and gain 5 fps or should I not touch it"
And the actual cons of the game are deal breakers to me . I'm allergic to shitty endings .
Ulysses 31
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Reality struck.
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