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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided I Review Thread I I asked for this
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DeathGlobe
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Did people forget this game had a season pass? If theres content thats the size of the missing link then thats fine
Coffee Dog
Banned
20 hours ish is just a bit shorter than Human Revolution, so that's whatever. The Halo 2 tier ending sounds like a much bigger issue.
Haha, yeah I agree. Low to mid 80s metacritic seems to be the standard nowadays for good games, aside from a few rare exceptions. Witcher 3 got a 90+ meta rating as deserved, not sure I agree with Uncharted 4 getting 90+ (felt unnecessary and a backwards step from Last of Us). Let's not talk about the ridiculously high scores of MGSV considering the abomination that is Act 2.....
It's perfectly understandable being disappointed in the lackluster ending, but people are acting like the game is a huge failure already. This isn't ME3 level of idiocy and most reviews are very positive.
Moff
Member
it's absolutely not fine to make a game shorter, maybe even give it an unsatisfying ending to sell extra dlc
It might be 20-30 hours but i'm probably going to replay it 5-10 times if it's anywhere near as fun as human revolution is.
prag16
Banned
No. You cherry picked mostly the worst feedback from a sea of largely better feedback, and no, I didn't see anyone but the one poster say it's a 12 hour game.
Shame about the story and ending, but Human Revolution wasn't stellar in that regard either. The imaginative world design and top notch atmosphere were what kept me engrossed in its setting. So as long as Mankind Divided excels in those areas, I think I'll be okay with a relatively uneventful plot.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Considering to play this in german. voice acting of Adam Jensen is just better.
Same in every review thread eventually.
The negatives are amplified the positives are ignored.
Considering most haven't played it either!
it's like the reverse uncharted 3 review thread
Well go play some COD big guy. Some of those are like 5 hours long.
Movalpolos
Banned
Have they even detailed what the DLC will be?
SJRB
Gold Member
Some random impressions, PS4 version.
I just finished the intro/tutorial section, just reached Prague. It took me a good 2.5 hours to get there, so the "13 hour total playtime" comments seem very strange to me. Granted, I ghosted through the section so I took my time. I imagine you can blast through it in 15 minutes if you just gun down everyone.
Game looks excellent, environments are extremely detailed. And the music is god-tier, as expected. Gameplay took some time getting used to. The new cover system reminds me of The Division, as in you're in cover, point to a location where you want Jensen to move, press X and he goes. However, in this game it's a simple button press whereas in Division you had to keep the buttons pressed. Haven't fiddled around with augments too much yet.
The Pague intro section runs terrible, there's no denying. Screentearing up the wazzoo, and massive framerate drops even though it's basically an on-rails section. Didn't encounter any of that during the prologue sequences, game ran super smooth. Also had a lengthy diaogue with a certain character and I could've swore it ran at like 10 frames per second at certain points. So weird.
Thing that impressed me the most so far is the presentation. The menus, the UI, everything is extremely slick. Game has incredible art direction overall, it just seeps style. Jensen's apartment is amazing.
Anyway, that's all I suppose. Now if you'll excuse me, I'd like to finish my morning coffee and watch my favouriteFox News Picus anchor give fair and honest newsreports.
I just finished the intro/tutorial section, just reached Prague. It took me a good 2.5 hours to get there, so the "13 hour total playtime" comments seem very strange to me. Granted, I ghosted through the section so I took my time. I imagine you can blast through it in 15 minutes if you just gun down everyone.
Game looks excellent, environments are extremely detailed. And the music is god-tier, as expected. Gameplay took some time getting used to. The new cover system reminds me of The Division, as in you're in cover, point to a location where you want Jensen to move, press X and he goes. However, in this game it's a simple button press whereas in Division you had to keep the buttons pressed. Haven't fiddled around with augments too much yet.
The Pague intro section runs terrible, there's no denying. Screentearing up the wazzoo, and massive framerate drops even though it's basically an on-rails section. Didn't encounter any of that during the prologue sequences, game ran super smooth. Also had a lengthy diaogue with a certain character and I could've swore it ran at like 10 frames per second at certain points. So weird.
Thing that impressed me the most so far is the presentation. The menus, the UI, everything is extremely slick. Game has incredible art direction overall, it just seeps style. Jensen's apartment is amazing.
Anyway, that's all I suppose. Now if you'll excuse me, I'd like to finish my morning coffee and watch my favourite
GringoSuave89
Banned
I think there was a steam "leak" that had everything named but one. Can't find it now though.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Who says you have to play it all in a weekend? If you have time for games period, you can ration that time however you please. Whether you play six five hour long games, or one thirty hour game, it's all the same.
Many many Neogafers are adults, and we still have time for the games we enjoy. If you have times to play games in general, and you have time to post on this board, you have plenty of time for a thirty hour game.
TheExhaustedWalrus
Member
I didn't wanna make a thread for this, but I want to play Human Revolution through completely for the first time. Is the Director's Cut preferred over the original game? Because I can't find a copy for PS3 anywhere around me. All I can notice is that the boss battles are improved in the DC along with the DLC added.
exmachina64
Banned
Even with graphical complaints on PC, the DC is superior due to the reworked boss fights and audio commentary.
Inserting the DLC in the main story works out a little awkwardly but yes DC is the way to go otherwise (worth it for the commentary alone).
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
Awesome, thanks for sharing. Hype level is through the roof here.
Always plenty of time to post on Gaf though. Hopefully not everyone has the patience of a child though and have to complete a game in a certain amount of time.
It's always been an argument more about their own insecurities than anything else. Majority of Gaf is 18+ from the last poll. Most have jobs, school, etc. But because they indicated that they have a job online, they aren't one of those people who play games all day and can't play any game past 10 hours. As you said, it doesn't matter if it is one game that is 30 hours long or 5 six hour long games. Ironic that they are on a message board too.
I view it more as this, they do not have the patience for a longer game. Some people do not like being challenged or having to invest time into a hobby. It's treated like fast food where they want to be done in X amount of time, or else they lose interest. It's not inherently a bad thing, there are times where I want to play something short for that very reason. But the excuses typically come in the form of them arguing they are an adult and don't have time. When that's not the case. They just want to complete it now and not later.
Xplatformer
Member
It looks like everyone that graded it lower knocked it down because of story.
IMO that's disappointing.
I would love that but I doubt it. The writing in the first Deus Ex, although sometimes lacking when it came to convincing dialogue, was really clever and broadly influenced. With Eidos Montreal, it's like they just focus on one thing and go way overboard with how much it affects the world and all the people in it. Doesn't feel like they cast a net very far and wide when looking for things to reference or discuss.
The Morpheus dialogue was just so outstanding (sorry, gotta quote it again!):
Like 5+ years before Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. The game is not always so elegantly written, but it is almost eerily prescient sometimes.
TheExhaustedWalrus
Member
Turns out I got HR previously with Plus at some point. I'm just gonna play through that version. Are the boss battles pretty cumbersome? I remember having some issues with the first couple way back when it first came out.
Xplatformer
Member
I never understand this.
Are you going to stop playing video games on a certain date? I'm old and I want my games to last as long as possible. My tv shows too actually.
MasterMenace
Member
Covert Agent Pack pre-order Details:
"Custom-skinned version of Adam Jensen’s trench coat and combat armor. Classic combat armor and trench coat from Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Cosmetic items, do not affect gameplay.
Pistol with a silencer, laser sight, recoil and accuracy upgrades. Five packs of 10MM pistol ammo.
Combat rifle with a holosight, reload and capacity upgrades. Five packs of 5.56MM combat rifle ammo.
Revolver from Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Extra pack of revolver Ammo.
Two EMP grenades.
Two HE grenades.
1 Praxis Point.
1000 Credits."
Source
"Custom-skinned version of Adam Jensen’s trench coat and combat armor. Classic combat armor and trench coat from Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Cosmetic items, do not affect gameplay.
Pistol with a silencer, laser sight, recoil and accuracy upgrades. Five packs of 10MM pistol ammo.
Combat rifle with a holosight, reload and capacity upgrades. Five packs of 5.56MM combat rifle ammo.
Revolver from Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Extra pack of revolver Ammo.
Two EMP grenades.
Two HE grenades.
1 Praxis Point.
1000 Credits."
Source
Regginator
Member
I gotta get the hell out of this thread. All this negativity is starting to get to me and I've been (and still am) hyped as all shit. Already pre-loaded on Steam, 48 hours to go...
THIS'LL BE GOTY 2016 YOU HEAR ME?
THIS'LL BE GOTY 2016 YOU HEAR ME?
That whole conversation is fantastic.
That is what I want from Deus Ex within its story, breadth and depth of exploration of ideologies and philosophies, getting you to think more about the world and your choices, fleshing out characters as more than just a set piece towards a single point narrative.
DealWithIt
Member
A little disappointed to hear wasn't running great on the 980 TI. I'll probably be waiting on this one. I'm not gonna give them my money and less I can get at least a decent performance at 1440p.
Movalpolos
Banned
That's the gpu I have...
On Ultra.
I still haven't seen info to justify that Ultra preset should or shouldn't be doable with specific cards, especially not knowing what the individual settings are doing. Is this a game genuinely challenging the system or is it the classic "unoptimised mess". Will be good to understand this once people put that info out there
Wait wait wait. Wasn't there a review impressions that the game was running on medium on a GTX 770? I'm kind of banking on that with my 680.
You can, just not everything at absolute max. One could argue you shouldn't be able to expect maxing out any game.
I have 980Ti and I expect good performance from mix of High and Ultra settings, no expectations of maxing game out.
Yeah sadly I just don't think Eidos Montreal quite has the chops with the current writing staff. I'm fine with that, the game does other things well, but I do miss the philosophical side of Deus Ex sometimes.
Luckily other games can fill parts of that gap, like Soma or The Talos Principle.
So I've played the game for about 12 hours now, I'm going full stealth and ghosting most levels plus doing every side quest...this is very interesting. It somehow has a different feeling to Human Revolution due to the environments. Game feels far more futuristic and cyberpunky.
Both the side and main quests are pretty engaging. If the main story feels like it ends abruptly then it'd purely due to lack of time because the game is jam packed with details and there is a lot to do.
That guy who was making comparison to No Man's Sky and assuming that Mankind Divided lacks content..he's wrong.
Edit: And the music man, it's so good !
Both the side and main quests are pretty engaging. If the main story feels like it ends abruptly then it'd purely due to lack of time because the game is jam packed with details and there is a lot to do.
That guy who was making comparison to No Man's Sky and assuming that Mankind Divided lacks content..he's wrong.
Edit: And the music man, it's so good !
Movalpolos
Banned
Hype rising!
From a philosophical/thematic standpoint, they ask the same questions as Deus Ex.
Ultimadrago
Member
An ending just as bad, if not worse, than the ones for Human Revolution?
Eliminating the boss problem by not working through it at all?
Fuck me. Suddenly, this is sounding rather poor overall. I hope the full package sounds better than this reads.
Movalpolos
Banned
What I meant is why is it okay that the new Deus Ex has shitty story? Because Soma and Talos have better ones? I'm not understanding that logic.
Regginator
Member
You can, and it'll look stunning. But unless you have an "ultra complex" where you have to max out every single game, you can easily play it on high presets and get more than a decent performance. ~100fps on a 980 Ti at 1080p, which should mean 70-ish on 1440p out the tales of my ass.
It's the Ultra preset that's either fucked or unnecessarily demanding. Like I said above, you can easily choose the High presets and get ~100fps on a 980 Ti (same ballpark with a 1070).
Sucks that the performance is bad. I just bought a new PC with an i7 and a 1070.
I'm pretty anal about performance and image quality, but for some reasons I don't care that much about stuff like reflections and shadow quality. Those settings are usually huge performance sinks anyway, so I can hopefully get a few extra frames by lowering those.
I'm pretty anal about performance and image quality, but for some reasons I don't care that much about stuff like reflections and shadow quality. Those settings are usually huge performance sinks anyway, so I can hopefully get a few extra frames by lowering those.
From what I've read, it's basically the shadows.
Don't ultra the shadows, it tanks performance for everyone.
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