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[Persona7]

2013 launch. $399.

14 HUNDRED AND 99 DOLLAR

 

[-PXG-]

Can't wait .. I'm ready for the next iteration of consoles.

Me too. I'll have a PC that will blow them away

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

I really think they will be releasing another game this gen, the God of War 3 assets probably costed too much to let it go to waste. Plus its already going to be 2 years since they released a game and Sony has nothing for Fall 2012

There are some Sony studios that used MLAA. And it could be also used on next gen games.

 

[RoboPlato]

14 HUNDRED AND 99 DOLLAR

So a Crytek spec next-gen system?

 

[V_Ben]

These days I know as much as when I were a teenager

Aww I miss your teasing statements!

 

[Omegasquash]

Ah yes, new and prettier reasons to spend my money.

 

[badcrumble]

No, no, obviously Microsoft lied about Halo 4's platform solely to cover up their SUPER SECRET PLAN to launch next year

Before the Halo 4 announcement I had been pretty sure it was going to be an Xbox 361 launch title, but anyone still hanging onto that is pretty crazy, yeah. What's far more likely (as far as platform strategy is concerned) is that it'll end with an absolutely crazy God of War 2-style cliffhanger.

A three-year-long generation launch is going to be pretty interesting, though, in this current industry climate, if that's really how things are going to go.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Already, I was hoping to at least still be in the PS3 gen during until I get that phd in 2014/5. At least if 2014 is the target for PS4, I have time to save. I was hoping the internal studios would be on Vita projects instead.

 

[SolarPowered]

Looks like next gen starts when Nintendo says it does.

Gonna sit back and watch them maul each other before I pick systems this time.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

I highly doubt the PS4 launches after 2013.

 

[Suzzopher]

Aww I miss your teasing statements!

Me too

If I could my current salary and flexible hours in the game industry I would jump back in.

 

[V_Ben]

Already, I was hoping to at least still be in the PS3 gen during until get that phd in 2014/5. At least if 2014 is the target for PS4, I have time to save. I was hoping the internal studios would be on Vita projects instead.

Sony have signed up some studios on 10 year contracts, so assume that those ones are working on Vita stuff. Also, BigBig and Bend. We're going to see plenty of Vita titles from their handheld teams

 

[Krev]

It's going to be weird if Sony let Microsoft get a year's jump on them...again.

 

[specialguy]

CALLED IT ON BOTH ACCOUNTS.

Said next Xbox 2013.

Also been saying I think PS4 may launch before Next box. Dont be shocked. Sony is much better at keeping secrets than MS, so they can pull a surprise launch.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

I don´t see Sony releasing in 2014. The next PS will be releasing in 2013.

 

[Kagari]

2013 for PS4, believe.

 

[Ace Harding]

Yeah, jives with what I've assumed for a while now. Very brief, no detail E3 2012 announcement of Xbox 3, then mostly quiet until full onslaught at E3 2013, release for Holiday 2013. Same for PS4 but a year behind.

We've finally started getting into processors and graphics cards that can completely trounce current consoles at very competitive prices, which means its time for a new gen.

Edit: So Wii U has what, a year of relevancy?

 

[Sidewinder]

As long as they are working on a new Colony Wars, I'll be okay waiting until 2014.

 

[corporate cheerleader]

Late 2013, hopefully. This gen still has energy left in it.

 

[Auto_aim1]

Excited Considering the fact that I got both PS3 and Xbox 360 at launch, it's been a looong time.

 

[specialguy]

E3 2013 reveal? I expect them to announce it at next years E3 but not go into too much info about it so they can build up hype for E3 2013

The rumored 2012 nextbox reveal made no sense to me. As a rule companies dont take the spotlight from current products by talking about future ones. Therefore a 2012 e3 reveal for a presumed holiday 2013 nextbox made no sense to me. And all along I've said 2012 was impossible...

So I would dismiss it out of hand, except I remember a suspicious interview with a Microsoft exec where he didn't deny a possible 2012 nextbox reveal.

My guess is either no nextbox reveal in e3 2012 (most likely) or, some sort of extremely vague CG only teaser in e3 2012.

 

[DonMigs85]

Looks like next gen starts when Nintendo says it does.

Gonna sit back and watch them maul each other before I pick systems this time.

The 1-year head start should be pretty beneficial for Nintendo. When the 2 other successors come out they'll be left in the dust again performance-wise for sure.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

I don't see Sony launching later than MSFT.

More than likely they will do a paper launch in the same year like Vita is doing and then release it worldwide later. A worldwide launch will be tougher on Sony than MS since MS can ignore the Japanese market or just not put any effort into it but Sony has to really support it.

Sony has yet to do a worldwide release for any system.

 

[H_Prestige]

Just imagine how much sooner we'd get PS4 and how much more polished it would be if they weren't wasting their time with that DOA system Vita.

 

[Auto_aim1]

So, shall we play the game "which SCE studios are making PS4 projects?" I'm going with London and San Diego.

Getaway 3 should be ressurected for the PS4. When they showed that first trailer it always looked like a PS4 game lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIUjWgmKVV0

 

[gofreak]

Just imagine how much sooner we'd get PS4 and how much more polished it would be if they weren't wasting their time with that DOA system Vita.

PS4's timing has to do with PS3 and its lifecycle/context, not Vita.

Also, I think an argument can be made for the opposite on the latter point. I think Sony's experience with Vita on both hardware and the OS side will serve PS4 very well.

 

[djplaeskool]

Just imagine how much sooner we'd get PS4 and how much more polished it would be if they weren't wasting their time with that DOA system Vita.

1/10

PS3 still has a lot of juice in its life cycle.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

More than likely they will do a paper launch in the same year like Vita is doing and then release it worldwide later. A worldwide launch will be tougher on Sony than MS since MS can ignore the Japanese market or just not put any effort into it but Sony has to really support it.

Sony has yet to do a worldwide release for any system.

The worst part is that Sony could have easily supplied enough PS3 units for a worldwide launch at the price they had set. Demand for PS3 at $599/499 was pitiful and shelves were nowhere near empty in the US or Japan during the launch holiday season. It might even have made Sony's launch more successful since supply would have matched demand rather than outstripped it massively with all of the $1200 for each unit found on shelved crap.

 

[Elginer]

My body is ready but my wallet is not! but dammit I'll go without food if I have to

Agreed. I don't know about jumping onto a new Xbox, I mean I still have tons of software I want to mash through. Is this thing gonna be B/C? It sure as hell better be!

 

[M.D]

More than likely they will do a paper launch in the same year like Vita is doing and then release it worldwide later. A worldwide launch will be tougher on Sony than MS since MS can ignore the Japanese market or just not put any effort into it but Sony has to really support it.

Sony has yet to do a worldwide release for any system.

It possible they wanted to do a worldwide release for the Vita but the earthquake in Japan and other issues prevented them from doing it

The release date in the US/EU is really not that far apart from the Japanese launch..
I don't see a reason why they wouldn't launch on a worldwide basis unless they didn't think they could support it with enough units (and it seems like they're going to sell tons of Vita in Japan)

 

[Concept17]

2013 launch. $399.

Yeah, this sounds about right. 499 max, but highly unlikely.

 

[Commanche Raisin Toast]

work on Vita began shortly after PSP launch? in that case i would define "work" as them saying "hey we should make a successor to this thing eventually...".

i am very skeptical of any PS4 game development being anything beyond them researching and having meetings with sony on what to expect as far as architecture and a very basic list of any unique features they need to be aware of to use. i highly doubt there are specs being thrown around that are concrete enough to start actually building a game upon- even in a test lab with a bunch of super computers.

technology advances and changes so fast that it would be silly to plan something this far out if it's coming (late) 2013 ("before 2014" wording). the tech (and yes, i realize consoles are *always* outdated by PC's when they launch) would already be a bit too far behind. the only way i could see sony getting some good info this far in advance is if IBM is reliable and efficient enough to where they could give sony a good "forecast" as to what they expect to be able to fabricate around the time they need to put the PS4 into production, and then seeing about making prototypes early next year as fast as possible. this is based on the assumption that they would use CELL again.

 

[PooBone]

I'll be getting the next gen Xbox whenever there's a game for it I really want. If that game is Halo 5 2 years in, that's when I'll get it, if it's Alan Wake 2 at launch, it'll be mine at launch. Gonna wait on the PS4 since I don't use my PS3 for much more than a blu ray player and a few rentals here and there.

The Wii U can die in a fire.

 

[H_Prestige]

PS4's timing has to do with PS3 and its lifecycle/context, not Vita.

Also, I think an argument can be made for the opposite on the latter point. I think Sony's experience with Vita on both hardware and the OS side will serve PS4 very well.

I disagree. Yoshida has said several times that launching the ps3 so close to the psp was a big mistake and they won't repeat it again.

 

[M.D]

I'm pretty sure Yoshida has stated on a couple of occasions that the work on Vita started in 2008

 

[Curufinwe]

Yeah, this sounds about right. 499 max, but highly unlikely.

I think at least two SKUs, one for $399 and one for $499.

 

[gofreak]

I disagree. Yoshida has said several times that launching the ps3 so close to the psp was a big mistake and they won't repeat it again.

He was a bit more specific than that. IIRC he said the mistake was that when they launched the PS3, they took a lot of their resources away from PSP to PS3. He said they won't be making that mistake again - i.e. shifting resources away in an unbalanced manner when another system comes along. Not necessarily about timing between the two.

 

[chri5t]

Would it be a stretch to assume that the next-gen consoles will have integrated Move/Kinect support built right into the system?

 

[OldJadedGamer]

I disagree. Yoshida has said several times that launching the ps3 so close to the psp was a big mistake and they won't repeat it again.

Right. PSP launched in 2004 and look at E3 2005. No mention of PSP during the conference and barely any presence on the floor. That's because it was all PS3 stuff. PSP totally suffered because of the PS3. They didn't manage their resources very well back then.

 

[[Nintex]]

I think MS will still try and hit fall 2012. Giving Nintendo a year on their own.. that's just not the Microsoft way and the reports about a 2014 release make no sense whatsoever. My guess is that they assume 'Fable Next 2013' is a launch game. But for launch they're prepping the MGS Vancouver game and maybe Forza World, games in development for quite a while already.

You don't get these sort of rumors and reports more than 2 years before release.

Ex-Microsoft employee Patrick Corrigan’s LinkedIn profile says he spent the first half of 2011 ”providing groundwork and integration for branding elements for next-gen Xbox on all forms of media. Ranging from print to UI across future releases of the Xbox platform”.

Take a look at the Xbox 360 roadmap(development started early 2003, launched late 2005):

the Xbox 360 was conceived in early 2003. In February 2003, planning for the Xenon software platform began, and was headed by Microsoft's Vice President J Allard. That month, Microsoft held an event for 400 developers in Bellevue, Washington to recruit support for the system. Also that month, Peter Moore, former president of Sega of America, joined Microsoft. On August 12, 2003, ATI signed on to produce the graphic processing unit for the new console, a deal which was publicly announced two days later.

The Xbox 720 started development around 2009/2010 so a 2012 release is much much more likely.

The Wii U for example, they started having meetings about in 2008 but as always...

Internally within the company, there was much debate over the idea for the new console, and the project was scrapped and restarted several times.

So Nintendo scrapped and started over development of their new console multiple times since 2008. It would be a safe guess to say that the Wii U we know today started life in 2010 and will launch in 2012. Why would Microsoft have to spend so much more time on their new system?

Also there was the GAF member who worked for AMD and said that they had to scramble a team to develop technology for a fall 2012 console. Wii U will be out earlier.

 

[djtiesto]

I care more about what Japanese studios are doing. I wish one of them would say something about what their next gen plans are.

Same here, I hope next gen Japanese devs get their act together a bit more.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

He was a bit more specific than that. IIRC he said the mistake was that when they launched the PS3, they took a lot of their resources away from PSP to PS3. He said they won't be making that mistake again - i.e. shifting resources away in an unbalanced manner when another system comes along. Not necessarily about timing between the two.

Indeed. I think there has been an effort at Sony to bring in more studios to develop for Vita rather than just porting PS2 games from third parties.

 

[Auto_aim1]

Would it be a stretch to assume that the next-gen consoles will have integrated Move/Kinect support built right into the system?

That wouldn't work as you have to keep the system close to your TV then. They will be external peripherals.

 

[Huevos de Oro]

Good, I'm eager to see what new stuff can these new systems bring to the table, even if I'm definitely going to wait at least a year/first hardware revision before picking them up.

 

[specialguy]

Sadly I would guess 2014 is (vastly) more likely than 2012.

Whatever they're aiming for, the possibility exists for slippage. Especially in the chip world. They could try like mad to make 2013, then delay like always happens in video games.

And Cliffy B said "around 2014".

 

[The Praiseworthy]

PS4 with number 4 games for launch.... Uncharted 4 \ Resistance 4 raise of man \ Killzone 4 .

 

[MidnightScott]

If the Wii U wasn't coming out next year (who knows at this point?) I was expecting this to be the longest gap between console generations.

 

[Gravijah]

PS4 with number 4 games for launch.... Uncharted 4 \ Resistance 4 raise of man \ Killzone 4 .

can't wait for raise of man

 

[Nizz]

Time to start saving up for PS4.

Hopefully it won't be too expensive this time. But I'm there for PS4. Have owned every Sony console and loved every one.

 

[UraMallas]

Going with Naughty Dog, GG, and maybe Sucker Punch.

These are my picks for who is already developing for the PS4. I'd also throw in Santa Monica even though they are probably crunching on StarHawk right now.