I know, such a missed opportunity.
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Devil May Cry 4 SE: Vergil, Trish & Lady Playable, Release Date 18th of June
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I know, such a missed opportunity.
badcrumble
Member
To be totally honest, if they are asking us to play as him for the entire length of the campaign, I expect Vergil's combat to be both more accessible than DMC4 Dante's (which is slightly clunkier than it should be) and somewhat more versatile than Nero's (and Nero is fantastic despite his limited moveset). Remember, this is Itsuno's first time coming back to the franchise in six years. He's going to have some new and refined ideas. And I do expect that (because he's going to lack Buster) Vergil's going to have a slightly bigger moveset than Nero. So yeah, I wouldn't rule out dpad use.
I wonder if they're going to introduce 360 ground and mid-air inputs. Probably not. Hopefully he'll at least have back-forward inputs.
Air Trick is a bit redundant now that Vergil has Grim Trick. Though I wonder how they're going to make the DmC mechanic work in terms of controls.
Air Trick is a bit redundant now that Vergil has Grim Trick. Though I wonder how they're going to make the DmC mechanic work in terms of controls.
The issue there is how much he is willing to add to an SE instead of saving for the sequel.
Eitherway, I expect him to at least want to outdo DmC Vergil.
direct_quote
Member
And when it fills up he says "i'm motivated".
direct_quote
Member
So what time will this thing be tomorrow? Will there be archives (I hope so..)?
Thats the exact amount of cheese i desire from this sort of game.
And Resident Evil apperently
RE Rev2 is filled with awesome very dumb references.
Oh man, I forgot about this. There was a thread up before, but now I can't seem to find it.
Theres a thing tomorrow?...what thing!?
I don't know, it can get pretty cringeworthy when a developer starts to act like they're in on a joke.
Seven Force
Banned
It can work in some cases. MvC3 references a bunch of Capcom/Marvel memes without being cringeworthy, for example.
If you guys are wondering about NicoNico Chou Kaigi, that was 25th-26th of April.
Edit: Never mind. Never saw that bit about April 1st.
Her DMC3 outfit is a pre-order bonus/DLC.
Edit: Never mind. Never saw that bit about April 1st.
Her DMC3 outfit is a pre-order bonus/DLC.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
Oh snap. Lady is playable? Hopefully DMC 3 Lady cause I hate what happened to her in DMC 4, ugh. Might pick this up cause I always wanted her as a playable character in 3
direct_quote
Member
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
NICE. If it's DLC I'll wait for a price drop since DMC 4 is one of my least favorite in the series, but I do wanna play it if both Lady and Nero are playable. Super excited for Lady, she was so fuckin boss in 3. Hope she has a good move set
Thanks. I really want to catch some of this tomorrow if possible. I really hope someone manages to archive it.
PensivePen
Member
I tracked down the famitsu article linked in this thread just to see what the deal was, and I actually think it was two separate announcements that the person who created it confused as a single one. Instead of "Dai Gyakuten Saiban and DMC4SE on Capcom TV," it looked more like it said "Dai Gyakuten Saiban on Capcom TV, also DMC4SE announced."
Granted I could be wrong, would be better to ask someone who reads Japanese. Just don't want people to get disappointed if it doesn't show up.
Edit: I was also unable to find info on DMC4 appearing on this stream anywhere on the internet other than NeoGAF.
Lord Dante
Neo Member
Agreed. But MGS, on the other hand and knowing Konami, like when Team Silent disbanded after Silent Hill 4, they'll end up outsourcing their developers who will act like they're Kojima Productions 2.0 and completely screw up the franchise :/
badcrumble
Member
I expect him to do a thorough job with regard to new mechanics (since that stuff carries over heavily from game to game) but not add tons of new weapons.
I'm hoping each character will feel very individual and well-differentiated with their own mechanics while feeling like the base combat formula remains consistent across all characters; weapon diversity can be a task for DMC5.
PensivePen
Member
Capcom TV Stream is starting
DMC4 is mentioned in the description, though the focus is on Ace Attorney.
DMC4 is mentioned in the description, though the focus is on Ace Attorney.
Hopefully we'll get a Little gameplay , also there Will be new Famitsu info Tomorrow.
PensivePen
Member
Yep, just the same trailer we watched before.
You should remove that bro, scans are not allowed here. You can get banned.
What would you guys prefer in a sequel, weapon diversity or character diversity (less weapons but more characters to play as)?
direct_quote
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So rising Sun confirmed in, and his concentration meter when full might do multiple hits or a larger range in addition to more powerk? k
I think Dante should remain a complex and multifaceted character. As multifaceted as they come. But with respect to the other characters, I wouldn't mind them being a bit slightly more restrictive with their armaments, but have tons of options available via personal skills. As long as there are plenty of characters to choose from, I don't see this being an issue.
That's interesting. In UMvC3, Vergil's DT would change the properties of his moves, including increased range, projectile durability, size, damage, armor, etc. Maybe we could see an expansion of that with his Concentration.
A combination of both. I want a minimum of four melee weapons for Dante, preferably five as DMC3 had the best weapon variety and set the standard in that regard. Dante is the most important character and its important that he has a lot of meat and diversity to him, as his DMC4 incarnation was underwhelming in terms of weapon variety. I'm more okay with less weapons for the other characters, but 2-4 for Vergil, and at least 2 for Nero and the rest sounds good to me. Certain characters like Lady depends on how her combat works. Talking exclusively about melee weapons here, but 5/5 is a good balance for Dante, provided every weapon is unique.
And every weapon should be unique. I'm okay with recycled movesets for the basic weapons, but for example Dante having another gauntlet weapon with the same moveset as Ifrit/Beowulf is lame. They should include weapon DLC in that case.
Can I answer "yes"?
Okay, if I had to pick. I'd rather just play as Dante and have a ton of weapon diversity.
badcrumble
Member
5 characters is a great number to stick with. I want to see more weapons/styles/DTs for them all though.
badcrumble
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Yeah, I think ideally Dante will always be the crazy-deep infinite-skill-ceiling character (though as I've said elsewhere they need to make more of his moves accessible without the Style button) and sort of a jack of all trades while every other character feels more like a more focused specialist.
Yeah I agree with you guys, the template they are setting up with the SE is solid. Dante with the overwhelming complexity and the others with different but more focused styles.
Though I do hope that moving forward they share less moves and the character move lists are unique.
Tbh even if the sequel didn't have both Dante and Nero I would have been disappointed. But after have a taste of 5 characters I definitely don't think I could go back to just one.
Though I do hope that moving forward they share less moves and the character move lists are unique.
Tbh even if the sequel didn't have both Dante and Nero I would have been disappointed. But after have a taste of 5 characters I definitely don't think I could go back to just one.
You know, I'm starting to think that Capcom NA might release DMC4SE at $29.99 or lower in the U.S.
Let's just compare it to REmake Remastered:
Japan (Digital): 3,694 yen + tax
Japan (Retail): 3,990 yen + tax
North America: $19.99
Europe: EUR19.99 / GBP15.99
DMC4SE:
Japan (Retail): 4,490 yen + tax
But after the recent pricing on the RE5 Gold expansion on Steam, who knows?
Let's just compare it to REmake Remastered:
Japan (Digital): 3,694 yen + tax
Japan (Retail): 3,990 yen + tax
North America: $19.99
Europe: EUR19.99 / GBP15.99
DMC4SE:
Japan (Retail): 4,490 yen + tax
But after the recent pricing on the RE5 Gold expansion on Steam, who knows?
badcrumble
Member
Very much agreed on that, yeah.
So, the only new info/confirmations I got from reading the scan is that DT works similarly to Dante's in that it powers up Vergil's special moves, so his Stinger with Force Edge does multiple hits, for example.
As for concentration, when the gauge is full, Vergil's range and attack power increases. Also his Dimension Slash super move seems to only be performable in this state, so you don't have to be DTed when using it, meaning it works the same as in UMvC3. So concentration is literally a super meter.
Edit: I missed direct_quote's post. Sorry man.
Edit 2: Vergil sounds like he's going to be a beast, again, with both concentration and DT. Imagine if he has Distortion/Just frame mechanics on top of that!
As for concentration, when the gauge is full, Vergil's range and attack power increases. Also his Dimension Slash super move seems to only be performable in this state, so you don't have to be DTed when using it, meaning it works the same as in UMvC3. So concentration is literally a super meter.
Edit: I missed direct_quote's post. Sorry man.
Edit 2: Vergil sounds like he's going to be a beast, again, with both concentration and DT. Imagine if he has Distortion/Just frame mechanics on top of that!
That would be sweet.
And Capcom can get away with pricing RE higher since it is their best selling series, not so much with DMC.
Reminds me of why I enjoy this genre so much, it's probably the closest thing to a deep single player fighting game.
Speaking of which, for DMC5 we need a co-op mode ala Bayonetta 2/NG2, versus/PvP mode and co-op versus.
For sure, co-op and on the fly character switching.
On the fly character switching sounds like a nightmare to pull off. Maybe if it was a separate mode or something.
J_Macgrady
Member
Word. I can barely handle DMC4 Dante as is.
Co op mode with the structure of Bayonetta 2's co op is what I want. Throw in fighting multiple bosses at once like NGS2 and I'm good.
NGS2's co op mode was so broken man lol. Me and my friends tried to do Ultimate Ninja mission 1 and just kept getting demolished.
badcrumble
Member
On the fly character switching sounds like an awful idea. There are literally no buttons left with which to make that happen.
badcrumble
Member
But I *like* style switching.
So do I but it seems many people have been calling for a more streamlined Dante ala DmC.