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[GuardianE]

How does Must Style function? You can only deal damage while your combat rank is S or higher? If so, it might be doable to create it as a mod. Although, I dunno if it would have the side effect of making scores much higher for levels.

Yeah, that's basically it. You do zero damage until S and then you need to get to SSS to do full damage. With how DMC4's scoring is performed, it would probably result in an enormous artificial Style ranking boost for scoring, but I don't think it matters much since it caps at S?

And the graphics are still worse than the PS2 version. And it still has the odd glitch here and there. But it is playable now. Man what an awful port.

It actually looks way cleaner than the PS2 version, though. I'm not justifying the laziness and sloppiness of the port, but it looks pretty nice if you can get it working.

 

[CrimsonCrescendo]

Come to mention it: I'm surprised they didn't take the time to implement Quicksilver. It's already basically in the game.

 

[Hexa]

They best teaser they could possibly put in is to just change the ending so slightly. Just add 2 words of dialog to Dante as he walks away.

"Dante, will we meet again?"


...

...

"Sure, kid."

and Dante does his 2 finger wave thing and the ending continues like normal.

Eh, I liked the wordless thing.
How about, instead of doing the two finger thing, he actually hold up his hold hand to say good bye. To most people it would look absolutely normal, but the super fans would spot the random but quite meaningful in context difference: that he was now holding up five fingers.

 

[Sectus]

Yeah, that's basically it. You do zero damage until S and then you need to get to SSS to do full damage. With how DMC4's scoring is performed, it would probably result in an enormous artificial Style ranking boost for scoring, but I don't think it matters much since it caps at S?

Well, I was thinking of leaderboards since those are numbered scores.

 

[Dahbomb]

FYI Must Style mode causes Leaderboards to be disabled for DmC DE. It's just a for fun mode.

Surprisingly good number of sales for DmC on PC (about half a million). Makes the no PC version for DmC DE even more baffling.

 

[PensivePen]

It actually looks way cleaner than the PS2 version, though. I'm not justifying the laziness and sloppiness of the port, but it looks pretty nice if you can get it working.

I'm mainly referring to some missing graphical effects. The final battle in the PC version is especially notable, lacking all color from the PS2 version.

 

[GuardianE]

Well, I was thinking of leaderboards since those are numbered scores.

Yeah, those would unfortunately be borked. But then again, with all of the other mods that we know will be added to the game, I'm not so sure the leaderboards will have a ton of integrity or purity to them.

Surprisingly good number of sales for DmC on PC (about half a million). Makes the no PC version for DmC DE even more baffling.

No PC version of DmCDE and no physical version of DMC4SE.

A pair of mind-boggling decisions.

 

[Akiller]

I wonder what is this:

http://www.capcom.co.jp/devil4se/global/system.html

 

[buddha0991]

Eh, I liked the wordless thing.
How about, instead of doing the two finger thing, he actually hold up his hold hand to say good bye. To most people it would look absolutely normal, but the super fans would spot the random but quite meaningful in context difference: that he was now holding up five fingers.

how bout a thumbs up

 

[GuardianE]

I wonder what is this:

http://www.capcom.co.jp/devil4se/global/system.html

Hm, Bing translate:

Will be launched worldwide in "Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition'.
What the buyers can see limited download premium movie! Premium movies are 1/2008 ' Devil May Cry 4 ' of screened premium finished off of ' Devil May Cry 4 ' and footage contained premium BD PS 3 books only in the version of the body was sealed.
Editing and journal Digest story cut-scenes, and you can experience lasting about 60 minutes until the ending of the movie! Who didn't get at the time, has become a rare content for beginners because I'll get!

I guess it's just talking about the demo digest? Although I'm sure why it's referencing a bluray.

 

[Akiller]

Hm, Bing translate:



I guess it's just talking about the demo digest? Although I'm sure why it's referencing a bluray.

Demo digest?

Eh, I liked the wordless thing.
How about, instead of doing the two finger thing, he actually hold up his hold hand to say good bye. To most people it would look absolutely normal, but the super fans would spot the random but quite meaningful in context difference: that he was now holding up five fingers.

You're confusing DMC fans with MGS ones

Spoiler

/sss

 

[Sykotik]

They best teaser they could possibly put in is to just change the ending so slightly. Just add 2 words of dialog to Dante as he walks away.

"Dante, will we meet again?"


...

...

"Next week...in game magazines..."

and Dante does his 2 finger wave thing and the ending continues like normal.

Fixed.

 

[GuardianE]

Demo digest?

The option to watch all the cutscenes in a row. It was in DMC4 and DMC3SE.

 

[RecursiveFault]

Fixed.

That...

Oh man.

 

[cerulily]

Wait, was there not a cutscene viewer in the original DMC4? Seems a bit mundane to mention.

Also.... to the poster above me <3 your avatar

 

[FollowTheWind]

Really excited for the new costumes, can't wait to see them. Anyone know if Gloria could be a possible costume for Trish? (honestly doubt it).

 

[BadWolf]

Really excited for the new costumes, can't wait to see them. Anyone know if Gloria could be a possible costume for Trish? (honestly doubt it).

Seems like it's one of the preorder bonuses.

 

[badcrumble]

I wonder what is this:

http://www.capcom.co.jp/devil4se/global/system.html

I'd love to see a new cutscene after the main campaign (maybe after you've beaten it with all characters?) showing that Nero's joined the devil hunting crew in the Devil May Cry shop.

 

[Emperor_EL]

Something bad happens to Southworth's character whenever he works with Bosch (Hellbinders, Broken Path, Vanilla DMC 4). I wonder what this means for Vergil?

 

[Akiller]

I'd love to see a new cutscene after the main campaign (maybe after you've beaten it with all characters?) showing that Nero's joined the devil hunting crew in the Devil May Cry shop.

Nah, knowing Nero he'll stay in Fortuna and become a sort of commander like Credo was or he'll just stay in Fortuna to defend it.

Maybe one day he'll leave Fortuna to search for answers about his origins...

 

[paolo11]

I'd love to see a new cutscene after the main campaign (maybe after you've beaten it with all characters?) showing that Nero's joined the devil hunting crew in the Devil May Cry shop.

Something bad happens to Southworth's character whenever he works with Bosch (Hellbinders, Broken Path, Vanilla DMC 4). I wonder what this means for Vergil?

? What happened?

 

[CrimsonCrescendo]

Nah, knowing Nero he'll stay in Fortuna and become a sort of commander like Credo was or he'll just stay in Fortuna to defend it.

Maybe one day he'll leave Fortuna to search for answers about his origins...

I would guess that would be part of DMC 5.

 

[Emperor_EL]

? What happened?

In Hellbinders he's possessed by a Demon.

In Broken Path he's

Spoiler

impaled with a pitchfork.

We already know what happened to Credo(The character he mocapped.)

 

[Akiller]

But Vergil is already dead :smugface:

 

[badcrumble]

Yeah, I think that if DMC4SE says anything at all about Vergil coming back in the post-DMC4 status quo it'll only be a tease. DMC5 should probably be the one that's the story about actually getting him back from wherever and whatever he is post-DMC1/DMC4.

 

[Golnei]

By the way, I redid that Lady reskin in the style of RE2 Claire, with Kyrie's hairstyle.
I'm surprised by how decent the results are.

Also, I had no idea there were finished model imports of Raiden and Sam. Barring some issues with the hair transparency, they work pretty well. A shame voice files can't be edited at the moment.

Nah, knowing Nero he'll stay in Fortuna and become a sort of commander like Credo was or he'll just stay in Fortuna to defend it.

Maybe one day he'll leave Fortuna to search for answers about his origins...

It does seem more in-character for him to stay - unless they fridge Kyrie, he doesn't have any particular reason to leave, especially if the town's still a demon magnet and anybody even remotely competent is dead. His presence in 5 could be justified in a similar manner to MGR Raiden's reason for working as a PMC, but that would depend on when 5 is set; hopefully, they'll finally decide to just skip ahead to after 2, keeping Lucia and ignoring everything else.

 

[badcrumble]

I'm not a big fan of killing female characters for shock value but I do hope Kyrie leaves the series because she's astonishingly boring and because Nero's feelings for her are the most boring thing about him.

 

[GayForMaster]

Yeah, those would unfortunately be borked. But then again, with all of the other mods that we know will be added to the game, I'm not so sure the leaderboards will have a ton of integrity or purity to them.




No PC version of DmCDE and no physical version of DMC4SE.

A pair of mind-boggling decisions.

Well seeing as how it's a worldwide release, maybe the JP version will be import friendly. I'll import if there's no retail in US.

 

[BadWolf]

I'm not a big fan of killing female characters for shock value but I do hope Kyrie leaves the series because she's astonishingly boring and because Nero's feelings for her are the most boring thing about him.

Guess it's time to give Kyrie the MGS4 Raiden treatment.

 

[Golnei]

I'm not a big fan of killing female characters for shock value but I do hope Kyrie leaves the series because she's astonishingly boring and because Nero's feelings for her are the most boring thing about him.

Again, Raiden is a good example here - while I thought she was an effective character, a lot of people hated Rose. As a result, in MGR, she's mainly offscreen, but her presence still affects Raiden's characterisation; without doing something so crass as arbitrarily fridging her. I'd prefer Kyrie to be developed into an interesting character rather than ignored completely, but given the choice (and accepting it's likely an impossibility given the kind of writing we should continue to expect going forwards) I'd rather she be allowed to exist out of focus rather than being killed off or being used as a barely-characterised plot device.

 

[Nemmy]

I'm not a big fan of killing female characters for shock value but I do hope Kyrie leaves the series because she's astonishingly boring and because Nero's feelings for her are the most boring thing about him.

Yeah, it has to be the worst part about DMC4's already paper thin story. Nero and Kyrie are like your most generic boring couple, but in a universe where everything is over the top, they managed to become over the top boring.
They could break up before DMC5 or something. Then Nero would just shrug the whole romance off with a "eh, that's a thing of the past" and proceed to kick ass.

 

[Clawww]

I'm not a big fan of killing female characters for shock value but I do hope Kyrie leaves the series because she's astonishingly boring and because Nero's feelings for her are the most boring thing about him.

maybe they can make her more interesting or just keep her out of the picture while still maintaing their relationship. I think actually having a relationship would distinguish Nero from the rest of the gang and most action protags

not that I'd give a shit if she was canned

 

[badcrumble]

I'd be cool with her being made more interesting or just being like

nero

i've decided to

uh

i do not want to date someone who is part demon bye

 

[AgentLampshade]

I'd legitimately be happy with Kyrie growing wings and flying away to never be mentioned ever again. She didn't even have a personality beyond "I love Nero."

 

[Kuraudo]

Eh, I liked the wordless thing.
How about, instead of doing the two finger thing, he actually hold up his hold hand to say good bye. To most people it would look absolutely normal, but the super fans would spot the random but quite meaningful in context difference: that he was now holding up five fingers.

Or he could just hold up one. Cut to DmC2 trailer

 

[GuardianE]

Kyrie is painfully boring, which is also why they can probably do something interesting with her in a sequel since she's such a blank slate. I think she had a total of 10 lines in the entire game.

 

[badcrumble]

Was she like the one major character related to The Order of the Sword who was NOT somehow infused with Nelo Angelo essence? Yeah, I dunno.

I'd sort of want her to be the Devil May Cry shop receptionist but only if she completely abandons her entire look and personality for those of Janine from Ghostbusters.

 

[AdaWong]

Kyrie is the epitome of bland. I thought it was impossible to hate a character more than Lady but Kyrie proved me wrong.

 

[BadWolf]

Kyrie is the epitome of bland. I thought it was impossible to hate a character more than Lady but Kyrie proved me wrong.

O

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[Golnei]

maybe they can make her more interesting or just keep her out of the picture while still maintaing their relationship. I think actually having a relationship would distinguish Nero from the rest of the gang and most action protags

not that I'd give a shit if she was canned

I'd prefer it if they kept their relationship intact, even if Kyrie herself wasn't present. Having a long-term relationship, even offscreen, would further help make Nero seem a more distinct character from Dante - in a way, if developed like that he'd probably end up being the most overtly human and emotionally mature playable character in the game; despite being much less in-control of himself than Dante on the surface; and being unable to pass as fully human.

Was she like the one major character related to The Order of the Sword who was NOT somehow infused with Nelo Angelo essence? Yeah, I dunno.

Probably for the best, really - it might make things kind of odd between them if Kyrie was essentially Nero's half-sister. Though if you wanted an excuse to break them up, that's as good as any.

 

[AdaWong]

O

M

G

Her whole "I'm s0 edGy & indEpendEnt i dont need U xD" act makes me wanna punch her face multiple times. D:

*raises shield in anticipation of the billion Lady fans incoming*

 

[BadWolf]

Her whole "I'm s0 edGy & indEpendEnt i dont need U xD" act makes me wanna punch her face multiple times. D:

*raises shield in anticipation of the billion Lady fans incoming*

Just because she's better than Trish...

 

[jett]

When it comes to level design, mission structure, plot and characters, absolutely no fucking fucks were given in DMC4, for sure.

Vergil's campaign confirmed best because you won't even have to skip the cutscenes.

 

[AdaWong]

Just because she's better than Trish...

Trish has 2x the times of Lady fans. &#127770;&#127770;&#127770;&#127770;&#127770;&#127770;&#127770;

 

[TreIII]

I'd prefer it if they kept their relationship intact, even if Kyrie herself wasn't present. Having a long-term relationship, even offscreen, would further help make Nero seem a more distinct character from Dante - in a way, if developed like that he'd probably end up being the most overtly human and emotionally mature playable character in the game; despite being much less in-control of himself than Dante on the surface; and being unable to pass as fully human.

I honestly think this would be the best way to handle Kyrie. If she's (hopefully) not going to be the damsel in distress again, they could just keep her and Nero's bond as a thing that has developed off-screen, and keep that lame love subplot as far away from the actual game, as possible.

It's still squick-inducing when you think about how they were raised together long enough for a brother-sister bond to form, but whatever.

 

[BadWolf]

Trish has 2x the times of Lady fans. &#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;

show me the receipts.jpg

It's still squick-inducing when you think about how they were raised together long enough for a brother-sister bond to form, but whatever.

Huh? Why should they have a brother-sister bond just because they grew up together?

He was in an orphanage before meeting Kyrie's family iirc.

 

[DedValve]

By the way, I redid that Lady reskin in the style of RE2 Claire, with Kyrie's hairstyle.
I'm surprised by how decent the results are.



Also, I had no idea there were finished model imports of Raiden and Sam. Barring some issues with the hair transparency, they work pretty well. A shame voice files can't be edited at the moment.





It does seem more in-character for him to stay - unless they fridge Kyrie, he doesn't have any particular reason to leave, especially if the town's still a demon magnet and anybody even remotely competent is dead. His presence in 5 could be justified in a similar manner to MGR Raiden's reason for working as a PMC, but that would depend on when 5 is set; hopefully, they'll finally decide to just skip ahead to after 2, keeping Lucia and ignoring everything else.

The thought of a Claire alt for Lady...

 

[TreIII]

Huh?

Nero was bought into the family when he was still very young (the novel hinted since he was a baby), and grew up alongside Credo and Kyrie with their parents.

If so, there was certainly more than enough time for the Westermarck Effect to kick in.

 

[BadWolf]

Nero was bought into the family when he was still very young (the novel hinted since he was a baby), and grew up alongside Credo and Kyrie with their parents.

If so, there was certainly more than enough time for the Westermarck Effect to kick in.

Never saw that as an issue and still dont *shrug*

From the wiki:

Nero, hinted to be the son of Vergil[1], was born and shortly thereafter left on the doorstep of a orphanage, getting the name Nero from the black blanket he was found wrapped in. He would later meet Kyrie and Credo along with their family and together, the three of them grew up in the city of Fortuna.[1] Throughout his childhood, he would be teased by many of the children in Fortuna, who accused him of being a bastard child of a prostitute due to the fact that no one knew who his mother was.[1] He would also grow close to Kyrie and Credo's parents.

 

[XxSlasherMcGirkxX]

By the way, I redid that Lady reskin in the style of RE2 Claire, with Kyrie's hairstyle.
I'm surprised by how decent the results are.



Also, I had no idea there were finished model imports of Raiden and Sam. Barring some issues with the hair transparency, they work pretty well. A shame voice files can't be edited at the moment.





It does seem more in-character for him to stay - unless they fridge Kyrie, he doesn't have any particular reason to leave, especially if the town's still a demon magnet and anybody even remotely competent is dead. His presence in 5 could be justified in a similar manner to MGR Raiden's reason for working as a PMC, but that would depend on when 5 is set; hopefully, they'll finally decide to just skip ahead to after 2, keeping Lucia and ignoring everything else.

That is really well done all things considered and instantly awesome for actually not using blue jeans version.