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Devil May Cry 4 SE: Vergil, Trish & Lady Playable, Release Date 18th of June

It sucks because it's boring and nothing of significance happened outside of Trish and Lady meeting for the first time. Dante wasn't even pushed to use his Devil Trigger and there were no good/important flashbacks to any character that fleshed them out.

The fact that it was so benign and inconsequential makes it so that it's easy to insert it into the DMC canon without it messing anything up.

The two things that the series gets right are the character designs and the soundtrack. The lack of compelling story, world building, character development and good action scenes (how do you not have good action scenes in a god damn DMC anime?) makes it a very dull anime.

You are better off watching Inuyasha, Trigun, Gungrave, Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust or Hellsing Ultimate if you want DMC in anime form.
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"...the damage done, the pain subsides and I can see the fear clear when I look in your eye."

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"I'll never kneel and I'll never rest"

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"You can tear this heart from my chest"

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"I'll make you see what I do best, I'll succeed as you breathe your very last breath *whispers* last breath
 
Oh, yes. But I guess my thing is? As a guy who, like badcrumble and others, wouldn't mind at all if DMC5 was a game where you could have Dante and crew taking on smaller scale, everyday assignments/missions (where minor developments/character building could take place) in addition to the major story missions...it was such a waste that the anime didn't do much with such an opportunity to help really flesh out Dante, his world and his supporting cast.

Even compared to the DMC Radio dramas (which starred the same Japanese VA cast), it's no contest. Lady seemingly was aware that shop was called "Devil Never Cry" at one point. Dante bought out Cerberus and his "old buddy", FRIGGIN ALASTOR, one more time in a battle against a Possessed Lady. And even the entire, rather humorous episode relating to the "Strawberry Sundae Murders", where the cops named Steve and McClain interviewed Dante and the crew had a few nice tidbits that were dropped (they even referred to Lady by her birth name of "Mary Arkham").

That's the kind of stuff that should've happened in the show.

I think we all agree the DMC anime was a wasted opportunity but the same can be said for a lot of DMC lore and writing. Like for example, the entirety of Devil May Cry 4.

Devil May Cry is in a weird spot because it's tough to humanize Dante because he's so strong. Everything is easy for him so he never has to break out of "jokster mode". It's probably one of the reasons they dreamed up the whole Nero thing to begin with. They needed a character that could progress through an actual arc.

To be honest Capcom should just hire a professional or amateur script writer to help pen the scenario for the next Devil May Cry game. If they don't the canon and series has a chance to head down the toilet even further. There needs to be some themes and arcs given to the cast. The series has so much potential, it's just about getting the right person to pen the scenario and bring it all out.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Yeah I agree... the Superman attribute of Dante has already gotten old after DMC4 and the anime.

Dante needs to be challenged, he needs to be tested. And you can't always rely on reviving Vergil just so there's someone who can match Dante. It's lazy writing. One revival is enough for DMC5 but after that they need some new shit.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
This is why I feel so strongly about the introduction of a new and charismatic antagonist. With proper writers and good characterization, they can make a struggle for Dante (and co.) compelling again. Humans reviving Sparda's power ain't cutting it.
 
I think the previous suggestions about inter-dimensional beings or aliens invading the DMC world don't sound that enticing. I don't know about introducing angels either because I kind of like the bleak world that DMC is set in, and it makes Sparda's sacrifice have more significance. I think you could bring some Demon Lords from Sparda's past but people want to get away from Sparda's legacy... So maybe Mundus is resurrected in the human world?
 
This is why I feel so strongly about the introduction of a new and charismatic antagonist. With proper writers and good characterization, they can make a struggle for Dante (and co.) compelling again. Humans reviving Sparda's power ain't cutting it.

I can agree with that. DMC needs it's Wesker. That may sound stupid but outside of Vergil and Jester there is a huge lack of charismatic antagonist in DMC which is very odd. They need someone that can go toe to toe with the brothers and be a returning character.
 

Azure J

Member
DMC deserved so much better than the anime we received.

The craziest part is that Soul Eater and Sword of the Stranger would happen within a year of the anime's run and both have entire sequences built around the kind of style and showcasing I'd have expected from the DMC anime and didn't get.
 

Dahbomb

Member
I think the previous suggestions about inter-dimensional beings or aliens invading the DMC world don't sound that enticing. I don't know about introducing angels either because I kind of like the bleak world that DMC is set in, and it makes Sparda's sacrifice have more significance. I think you could bring some Demon Lords from Sparda's past but people want to get away from Sparda's legacy... So maybe Mundus is resurrected in the human world?
Mundus resurrected again? Treading on previous villains is the absolute worst thing they can do at this point with the exception of Vergil because he's mutha fucking Vergil.

The interdimensional beings doesn't mean a new entity... they could just be demons in another realm. They could be like "oh the human realm had the weakest ruler Mundus" to introduce the next power creep for Dante and co to handle.

The problem with the current "dimension" of the DMC universe is that no one is strong enough for Dante. After Mundus was killed Berial was the next strongest and he was dispatched as a joke!


Think of it this way... Dante and Nero are essentially Super Saiyans now. There is no point for them to be fighting characters from the Namek saga like the Ginyu force... it's irrelevant to them. In the same way, there's no point in Dante/Nero fighting demons from their own hell because they are all chumps to them at this point.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
The problem with the current "dimension" of the DMC universe is that no one is strong enough for Dante. After Mundus was killed Berial was the next strongest and he was dispatched as a joke!

This is a problem, but I don't see it as an insurmountable one. Bring back some old gods, reawakened somehow. Ancient powers that dwarf even Mundus. These things are still possible, even if a little lazy. I'd take lazy over them being written into a corner.
 

Dahbomb

Member
They already did that with DMC2...

Despair Embodied/Argosax predate Mundus and were at least his power level.

You wanna know what happened to them? Dante flipped a coin and shot him in the face.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
They already did that with DMC2...

Despair Embodied/Argosax predate Mundus and were at least his power level.

You wanna know what happened to them? Dante flipped a coin and shot him in the face.

But DMC2 is also a game that's not only largely ignored by the fanbase and Capcom, but is written into the indeterminable future so as not to muck up the timeline.

Despair Embodied was probably one of the better things about DMC2 anyway.

Besides, I said a charismatic antagonist. Bring back an ancient body that likes having fun doing horrible things, and make us hate him for it.
 

MegaPanda

Member
I'd like to see team DMC go up against a team of demons/half-demons that are going after Devil Arms of their own. The only time Dante's taken some beatings is when he's up against Vergil or underestimating Nero. Introducing more powerful half-demons into the mix would fix that.

The enemies would add some more human-sized bosses in the game, and giving them Devil Arms could let them Devil Trigger and change their size/fighting style mid fight. There could even be some enemies that could weapon swap and do small combos on you. It also lends well into a multi-route story mode since they could have Dante/Vergil/Nero face different members of this team and gain different Devil Arms in their routes.
 

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Yeah I agree... the Superman attribute of Dante has already gotten old after DMC4 and the anime.

Dante needs to be challenged, he needs to be tested. And you can't always rely on reviving Vergil just so there's someone who can match Dante. It's lazy writing. One revival is enough for DMC5 but after that they need some new shit.
Or they could just go with the new protagonist they've already introduced. Nero also has
Yamato now
.
 

BBboy20

Member
The bosses would be 5 of them. Their bodies would be the weapons. All of them to contrast our 5 heroes. Part of some order that has been experimenting with magic and science for unknown centuries or more, waiting for the right moment to take over the world by taking out the most powerful being. Unable to entirely spy and study omnipotent beings who reside in their own spiritual planes but mortal beings becoming "immortal" and residing in mortal realms...the reconnaissances and R&D department developments are going to progress by light years.
 
I'd like to see team DMC go up against a team of demons/half-demons that are going after Devil Arms of their own. The only time Dante's taken some beatings is when he's up against Vergil or underestimating Nero. Introducing more powerful half-demons into the mix would fix that.

The enemies would add some more human-sized bosses in the game, and giving them Devil Arms could let them Devil Trigger and change their size/fighting style mid fight. There could even be some enemies that could weapon swap and do small combos on you. It also lends well into a multi-route story mode since they could have Dante/Vergil/Nero face different members of this team and gain different Devil Arms in their routes.

Weapon swapping is a big part of the Vergil 2 boss design in DMC3, and weapon swapping mid-combo is something Vergil 3 does pretty frequently.
 

TreIII

Member
This is a problem, but I don't see it as an insurmountable one. Bring back some old gods, reawakened somehow. Ancient powers that dwarf even Mundus. These things are still possible, even if a little lazy. I'd take lazy over them being written into a corner.

Another idea I had was to borrow another "BASARA-ism", and basically make it more of a Warring States type of deal between various clans/gangs of Demons and maybe other parties dealing in the Occult. Only the "battlegrounds" are the Human and Demon Worlds.

Because Mundus and etc. are gone, and there's such a power vacuum, there's a lot of gangs vying for (what else?) control over either/both worlds. Dante and crew can't exactly have full-scale gang warfare going on, so they have to get involved.

Sweeten the deal by making a "not-quite-dead-after-all!" Vergil/Nelo Angelo the head of one of these groups that are quickly gaining power and notoriety in Demon World, thanks to having one with the "Blood of Sparda" as their leader, and BAM, you got yourself another reason for why Dante and Nero would get Team DMC and The Order into the mix.
 
Mundus resurrected again? Treading on previous villains is the absolute worst thing they can do at this point with the exception of Vergil because he's mutha fucking Vergil.

The interdimensional beings doesn't mean a new entity... they could just be demons in another realm. They could be like "oh the human realm had the weakest ruler Mundus" to introduce the next power creep for Dante and co to handle.

The problem with the current "dimension" of the DMC universe is that no one is strong enough for Dante. After Mundus was killed Berial was the next strongest and he was dispatched as a joke!


Think of it this way... Dante and Nero are essentially Super Saiyans now. There is no point for them to be fighting characters from the Namek saga like the Ginyu force... it's irrelevant to them. In the same way, there's no point in Dante/Nero fighting demons from their own hell because they are all chumps to them at this point.
I guess you're right, but I think in DMC5 they might bring Mundus back in some form or someone related to him like his son or brother. They'll want to dial up that nostalgiaX1000 for the DMC5. Would be cool for once to have at least half the game set in hell (instead of always the last 2-3 missions).
 

Turin

Banned
A new villain doesn't need to be related to Mundus. He can exude power and dread while being unique on his own.
 
Can't they just bullshit their way as "ohh, in the deeper parts of hell there are even stronger monsters, ooohhh."?

Or is there a point that says that Dante is the strongest of 'em all, period?


Either way, I'm fine with Dante being like that, I like it better than having to see him getting super serious or dramatic (the latter is quite not-good when it happens).
 

Village

Member
New characters yes but stuff outside demons?

It's DEVIL May Cry... the whole series is about hunting and killing DEMONS. Dante is a demon hunter by PROFESSION.

He can kill other things. Who gives a shit honestly. Expand.

They should have had chaacter who is just blade, a minute a go. Literally some black vampire dude, that uses duel katanas. They he could have some hellsing Devil trigger shit. You can do with all sort of mythical beast that can take the form of/breed with, humans.

Also under a larger banner a lot of humans would consider anything that would terrorize humans, a demon. If you wanna get technical
 

Arttemis

Member
Each game needs a new setting and a new antagonist(s). No retreading previous locations, no recurring nemesis, no explanation how he/she/it got there beyond character development.

The stories throughout the season have been well executed, but have never required deep thought, so just throwing some new big-baddies and some capable humanoids into the game to be punching bags is all I care about.
 

Akiller

Member
http://www.capcom.co.jp/game/content/?p=17184&redirect_stop=1#header_wrap
It's about the story of DMC franchaise, but it also says they'll be an interview with Takashi Fuji(DMC4SE producer) in the next article on April 23th.

Also, i think the streaming schedule for the Chokaigi event has been published:

4月25日(土)ゲスト・番組表
バサラ4皇vsDMC4SEチャンネル

10:00 頃
オープニング

10:15 頃
『戦国BASARA4 皇』超・最新情報コーナー
【ゲスト】山本ディレクター

11:00 頃
『DMC4 スペシャルエディション』超・最新情報コーナー
【ゲスト】伊津野ディレクター、藤井プロデューサー


12:00 頃
初公開!『戦国BASARA4 皇』新武将プレイを生実況!
【ゲスト】山本ディレクター

13:00 頃
初公開!『DMC4 スペシャルエディション』バージルで生実況!
【ゲスト】伊津野ディレクター、藤井プロデューサー


14:00 頃
小林Pの超トークルーム
【ゲスト】
紗綾
久保木 果歩
倉岡 生夏

15:00 頃
ガッチマンに挑戦!
『戦国BASARA4 皇』超★爆弾兵チャレンジ

16:00 頃
小林Pと開発者の宴!
【ゲスト】伊津野ディレクター、山本ディレクター

17:00 頃
ガッチマンに挑戦!
『DMC4 スペシャルエディション』
ブラッディパレスチャレンジ
【ゲスト】伊津野ディレクター


17:45 頃
エンディング

4月26日(日)ゲスト・番組表
バサラ4皇vsDMC4SEチャンネル



10:00 頃
オープニング

10:15 頃
『戦国BASARA4 皇』超・最新情報コーナー
【ゲスト】山本ディレクター

11:00 頃
『DMC4 スペシャルエディション』超・最新情報コーナー
【ゲスト】伊津野ディレクター、藤井プロデューサー


12:00 頃
初公開!『戦国BASARA4 皇』新武将プレイを生実況!
【ゲスト】山本ディレクター

13:00 頃
初公開!『DMC4 スペシャルエディション』バージルで生実況!
【ゲスト】伊津野ディレクター、藤井プロデューサー


14:00 頃
小林Pの超トークルーム
【ゲスト】
横山 昌義(株式会社セガゲームス)
市村 龍太郎(株式会社スクウェア・エニックス)
松山 洋(株式会社サイバーコネクトツー)
原田 勝弘(株式会社バンダイナムコエンターテインメント)

15:00 頃
ガッチマンに挑戦!
『戦国BASARA4 皇』超★爆弾兵チャレンジ

16:00 頃
ガッチマンに挑戦!
『DMC4 スペシャルエディション』
ブラッディパレスチャレンジ
【ゲスト】伊津野ディレクター


16:45 頃
エンディング

◆開催日時
2015年4月25日(土)10:00~18:00 / 4月26日(日)10:00~17:00

◆会場
幕張メッセ1~11ホール

◆特設サイト:
http://www.capcom.co.jp/chokaigi15/


http://www.capcom.co.jp/information/basara/event/20150409_8014.html
http://www.capcom.co.jp/chokaigi15/

This is going to be one hell of a livestream!
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Nice! So it looks like we're getting:

- Updated and latest info
- Vergil play-by-play
- Bloody Palace Challenge

An 8 hour stream? That's pretty extensive.
 
The problem with the current "dimension" of the DMC universe is that no one is strong enough for Dante. After Mundus was killed Berial was the next strongest and he was dispatched as a joke!

Didn't the new back story that they released in DMC4SE official site pretty much confirmed this to not be true? They did say that "Fire Hell" is just one part of demon world and not all of it. So all Berial did was conquering that one part, nothing else.
 

ArjanN

Member
Can't they just bullshit their way as "ohh, in the deeper parts of hell there are even stronger monsters, ooohhh."?

Or is there a point that says that Dante is the strongest of 'em all, period?

Either way, I'm fine with Dante being like that, I like it better than having to see him getting super serious or dramatic (the latter is quite not-good when it happens).

That's pretty much the only thing they can do outside of changing main characters. The problem is Dante is already kind of over the power-level event horizon, it's like high level Marvel/DC where if you have to keep topping yourself it eventually just becomes kinda stupid and hard to relate to.

And IMO Vergil doesn't work as a main villain anymore, because you already teamed up with him at one point.

Didn't the new back story that they released in DMC4SE official site pretty much confirmed this to not be true? They did say that "Fire Hell" is just one part of demon world and not all of it. So all Berial did was conquering that one part, nothing else.

I feel demons/the demon world is kept vague enough in the games that you could just go: Oh, here's the big foozle and his 9 lieutenants we conveniently never mentioned before/happened to be out of town during the last game. Now fight!
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Another idea I had was to borrow another "BASARA-ism", and basically make it more of a Warring States type of deal between various clans/gangs of Demons and maybe other parties dealing in the Occult. Only the "battlegrounds" are the Human and Demon Worlds.

Because Mundus and etc. are gone, and there's such a power vacuum, there's a lot of gangs vying for (what else?) control over either/both worlds. Dante and crew can't exactly have full-scale gang warfare going on, so they have to get involved.

Sweeten the deal by making a "not-quite-dead-after-all!" Vergil/Nelo Angelo the head of one of these groups that are quickly gaining power and notoriety in Demon World, thanks to having one with the "Blood of Sparda" as their leader, and BAM, you got yourself another reason for why Dante and Nero would get Team DMC and The Order into the mix.

This is a neat idea. The only issue is that you still have the issue where Dante is overpowered, even against an army. These are all small fries in a power struggle with the collapse of Mundus. And then it becomes more like a musou than DMC.

There's still nothing pushing him to the edge, which I think is the main concern that people have with Superman Dante.
 

TreIII

Member
This is a neat idea. The only issue is that you still have the issue where Dante is overpowered, even against an army. These are all small fries in a power struggle with the collapse of Mundus. And then it becomes more like a musou than DMC.

There's still nothing pushing him to the edge, which I think is the main concern that people have with Superman Dante.

Well, I guess the one caveat could be is that, depending on just long this "civil unrest" has been going on since Mundus' defeat, you could potentially give an opening for individuals to rise up who could stand to really keep Dante on his toes. Especially if they were smart about it and didn't let Dante & etc. in the loop until it was already "too late".

I mean, the one thing about Sanctus' Order was that their overall plot got discovered too early, and we never even saw a full-powered Savior. In the context of my idea, maybe they were just one of many such groups vying for control over the Human/Demon Worlds, but got culled before they could really stake a claim. Same could be said for Belial; he got a lil full of himself after conquering the Fire Hell and got promptly spanked as soon as he tried to crossover into the Human World and ran into the wrong guy.

Now, imagine that while Dante has been largely coasting along, fighting demonfolk and etc. that are hardly a challenge to him, Vergil-Angelo has been fighting nonstop against much more powerful/competent opposition in Demon World, post-Mundus? And furthermore, what if Vergil-Angelo was the main one keeping them at bay before this unrest spilled over into Human World...?
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Well, I guess the one caveat could be is that, depending on just long this "civil unrest" has been going on since Mundus' defeat, you could potentially give an opening for individuals to rise up who could stand to really keep Dante on his toes. Especially if they were smart about it and didn't let Dante & etc. in the loop until it was already "too late".

I mean, the one thing about Sanctus' Order was that their overall plot got discovered too early, and we never even saw a full-powered Savior. In the context of my idea, maybe they were just one of many such groups vying for control over the Human/Demon Worlds, but got culled before they could really stake a claim. Same could be said for Belial; he got a lil full of himself after conquering the Fire Hell and got promptly spanked as soon as he tried to crossover into the Human World and ran into the wrong guy.

Now, imagine that while Dante has been largely coasting along, fighting demonfolk and etc. that are hardly a challenge to him, Vergil-Angelo has been fighting nonstop against much more powerful/competent opposition in Demon World, post-Mundus? And furthermore, what if Vergil-Angelo was the main one keeping them at bay before this unrest spilled over into Human World...?

I suppose that's true. They could definitely have a particular demon rise up from the ashes, so to speak, gaining influence and power. I'd just like some sort of justification for this increase in power, where he/she could rival Dante at this point. Perhaps someone who planned for Dante, and had recon done in order to properly equip himself. The clumsy lack of preparedness seemed to be the real issue with the Order and Demons in DMC4, which is a stark contrast to Arkham in DMC3 who had slowly manipulated all of the parties.

I probably sound like a broken record, but I really think that fresh blood is needed on the antagonist side. The series can't continue to rely on Vergil. And I think that it ultimately dilutes him as a character to do so. Guest character, though? Absolutely.


There are new scans by Dengeki, there's an interview with Itsuno Too.

Oooo PM, por favor?
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
There's a screen showing Vergil doing a sort of Summoned swords "rain" attack.

It definitely feels like essence of Nelo Angelo here. I wonder if it's a "super" like we've seen with his Full Concentration Dimensional Slash, or just a DT expenditure move.
 

TreIII

Member
When they gave that attack to Hanbei over in BASARA, years ago, I smiled.

Only fitting that its original owner got his attack back.
 

Sesha

Member
So I translated the names of the new attacks. Drizzle swords is called "Early Summer Rain Phantom Swords" (五月雨幻影剣, Satsukiame Gen'eiken). Million cuts is called "Yamato Barrage Cuts" (閻魔刀連斬, Yamatō Renzan).

I think drizzle swords is a standard attack. Its input is probably lock-on back-forward + gunfire. Overall, loving these new additions for Vergil. So far he seems a lot more interesting than either Nero or Dante.
 

Akiller

Member
So I translated the names of the new attacks. Drizzle swords is called "Early Summer Rain Phantom Swords" (五月雨幻影剣). Million cuts is called "Yamato Barrage Cuts" (閻魔刀連斬).

I think drizzle swords is a standard attack. Its input is probably lock-on back-forward + gunfire. Overall, loving these new additions for Vergil. So far he seems a lot more interesting than either Nero or Dante.

Please translate the Itsuno interview ;__;
 

Sephzilla

Member
New characters yes but stuff outside demons?

It's DEVIL May Cry... the whole series is about hunting and killing DEMONS. Dante is a demon hunter by PROFESSION.

The whole series is about a main character who is a half-human / half-demon hybrid. Stepping away from demons as the villains doesn't inherently break that "Devil May Cry" namesake.
 

TreIII

Member
The whole series is about a main character who is a half-human / half-demon hybrid. Stepping away from demons as the villains doesn't inherently break that "Devil May Cry" namesake.

Yeah, I'd think it'd be fine, as long as we stick with the "occult" motif (re: no aliens and stuff like that).

Since Classic/IGA-style Castlevania is a distant memory at this point (likewise the hope for a new Darkstalkers), we could bring in Vampires, Werewolves, Chupacabras and other things of the sort, in order to just give Dante and pals more things to fight. And maybe new friends, too, who knows?

Shoot, that'd go even better with my whole "Demon World Civil War" idea, come to think of it...
 

Sesha

Member
Please translate the Itsuno interview ;__;

They don't talk about much. Certainly nothing new. It's basically a Q&A where they ask him about the new features and Itsuno goes into a bit of detail on the various new additions. First he talks about the three new characters and their modes. Lady's and Trish's intro sequences will explain what they were up to when Dante and Nero were fighting. Itsuno says we'll be seeing the original story from a different point of view, which he thinks will be interesting. He also talks about the JP voice dub, Legendary Dark Knight Mode and the graphical updates. He further talks about the PS4's share function, though I'm too lazy to touch on that part. Finally, they ask if he has any closing words to excited fans and readers. He says, paraphrased:

"Although we've made you wait for a long time, we've thrown lots of things into the game that we weren't able to do last time, and managed to bring forth something of a complete edition-type form/version* (of the game). When you play this, I think you'll be able to temper your dulled action arm/skills."

*(translator's note: the word "form/shape" is used)

Not a very good translation, but I tried.
 

Akiller

Member
Thanks Sesha!Good stuff.

First he talks about the three new characters and their modes. Lady's and Trish's intro sequences will explain what they were up to when Dante and Nero were fighting.

Hmmm, Trish joined the order disguised as Gloria and then he defended Fortuna while Dante was fighting the Savior. As for Lady, i don't know what could be.

"Although we've made you wait for a long time, we've thrown lots of things into the game that we weren't able to do last time, and managed to bring forth something of a complete edition-type form/version* (of the game). When you play this, I think you'll be able to temper your dulled action arm/skills."

Does this imply Vergil,Trish and Lady were already planned back then?Because if not i'm calling Bullshit since we all know what really were those things he wasn't able to do last time.
 

ArjanN

Member
The whole series is about a main character who is a half-human / half-demon hybrid. Stepping away from demons as the villains doesn't inherently break that "Devil May Cry" namesake.

'Demons' is pretty broad anyway. I mean DMC4 has a giant frog, a snake lady and a locust man, not to mention the giant animated statue and the evil flying pope. A demon can be pretty much any sort of monster really.
 

Sesha

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Just google Louis Breton or Hieronymus Bosch if you want to see some of the weirder ways demons have been depicted throughout history. There has never been a common way of depicting demons, even within historical Christianity. Whether or not something is a quote-unquote demon has more to do with where it comes from. What I think Dahbomb was referring to was aliens, angels, etc. Basically anything that is explicitly established in-canon to not be a demon.

Does this imply Vergil,Trish and Lady were already planned back then?Because if not i'm calling Bullshit since we all know what really were those things he wasn't able to do last time.

No, I don't think that's what he meant, but he doesn't specify what, either. I do believe they probably considered adding Vergil, and maybe Trish and Lady as well. Considered in the sense that they brought it up, figured it couldn't be done and then gave up the idea. But Lady has probably been considered as a playable character since DMC3.
 
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