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Devil May Cry 4 SE: Vergil, Trish & Lady Playable, Release Date 18th of June

Akiller

Member
Itsuno changed his Twitter profile pic yesterday, last time he did it DMC4SE was announced and indeed yesterday Vergil was announced for Project X Zone 2 xD
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Itsuno changed his Twitter profile pic yesterday, last time he did it DMC4SE was announced and indeed yesterday Vergil was announced for Project X Zone 2 xD

I wouldn't call Project X Zone a great game, but it sure is chaotic cross-over fun in smaller doses. Vergil's inclusion is certainly welcome.

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EDIT: Changed the pic to the Bandai Namco tweet, lol. Shamefully stolen from the PxZ2 Trailer thread.
 

Sephzilla

Member
Project X Zone wasn't a deep RPG at all but damn I had fun playing it.

Plus at the time it was refreshing to have anything with Real Dante in it considering the reboot was still a bitter aftertaste in my mouth.
 

Akiller

Member
I wouldn't call Project X Zone a great game, but it sure is chaotic cross-over fun in smaller doses. Vergil's inclusion is certainly welcome.

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EDIT: Changed the pic to the Bandai Namco tweet, lol. Shamefully stolen from the announcement thread.
That DMC1 background is a really nice detail.
Now we just need Bayonetta and Jeanne into that game.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
That DMC1 background is a really nice detail.
Now we just need Bayonetta and Jeanne into that game.

That's true. Sega's involved, after all. It's certainly not impossible.

Project X Zone's crossovers were often an interesting mish-mash. It had DMC1 Dante with DMC3 weapons, and it had both Devils Never Cry and Ultraviolet as featured DMC songs.
 
I'm hoping Vergil has midair dodging too (though, really, Grim Trick should probably obviate any need for it, but it'd be cool anyway).
 

Sesha

Member
I wouldn't call Project X Zone a great game, but it sure is chaotic cross-over fun in smaller doses. Vergil's inclusion is certainly welcome.

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EDIT: Changed the pic to the Bandai Namco tweet, lol. Shamefully stolen from the PxZ2 Trailer thread.

Goddamn lol @ that tweet.

Seeing DMC1 Dante with DMC3 weaponry fighting a Marionette alongside Vergil on a DMC1 background makes me so happy.

And speaking of, one of Lady's moves in the game is basically Jill's Machine Gun Spray from MvC3, based on her mission 5 cutscene. I hope for DMC4SE they base Lady's Rainstorm off of that move (because there's no way they're not giving her one), or give her a Rising Rainstorm with that animation.

I'm hoping Vergil has midair dodging too (though, really, Grim Trick should probably obviate any need for it, but it'd be cool anyway).

Or, make use of Nero's remaining unused button by making it a dedicated dodge button, and give him an air dodge.
 
Goddamn lol @ that tweet.

Seeing DMC1 Dante with DMC3 weaponry fighting a Marionette alongside Vergil on a DMC1 background makes me so happy.

And speaking of, one of Lady's moves in the game is basically Jill's Machine Gun Spray from MvC3, based on her mission 5 cutscene. I hope for DMC4SE they base Lady's Rainstorm off of that move (because there's no way they're not giving her one), or give her a Rising Rainstorm with that animation.



Or, make use of Nero's remaining unused button by making it a dedicated dodge button, and give him an air dodge.
His unused button is reserved for weapon switching from Red Queen to Yamato
it SHOULD BE
.
I wonder if we're going to get a schedule for Capcom Unity streaming soon...
 

Sesha

Member
So, how much DMC-related stuff has happened since the remasters were announced?

DmC DE
DMC4SE
DMC series soundtrack released on iTunes
Monster Hunter DMC costumes
Man at Arms forges Rebellion
Project X-Zone 2 features Dante and Vergil as playable characters
Capcom-sponsored Style Tournament

Anything else?

His unused button is reserved for weapon switching from Red Queen to Yamato
it SHOULD BE
.

Maybe in DMC5.
 
I wouldn't call Project X Zone a great game, but it sure is chaotic cross-over fun in smaller doses. Vergil's inclusion is certainly welcome.

v06E9jE.png


EDIT: Changed the pic to the Bandai Namco tweet, lol. Shamefully stolen from the PxZ2 Trailer thread.

Ugh, I don't want this. I don't have the time nor money to sink into it. But Vergilllll...Ugh, stop making me so indecisive game industry!

Plus at the time it was refreshing to have anything with Real Dante in it considering the reboot was still a bitter aftertaste in my mouth.

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Never forget.
 
Wish there was a way to play as Dante all the way through. The only thing I could think of that would hinder his movement are those stupid orbs Nero had to grab on to and pull through.
 

Golnei

Member
Wish there was a way to play as Dante all the way through. The only thing I could think of that would hinder his movement are those stupid orbs Nero had to grab on to and pull through.

Amusingly enough, the debug menu includes a flag which allows the player to start any mission as Dante; but not the inverse. Though infinite Air Hike usually has to be enabled to bypass those orb sections...

Thankfully, one of the few upsides of DMC4's awful pacing is that very little content is exclusive to Nero.


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GuardianE

Santa May Claus
So wait, are we actually gonna see some new gameplay this time? Cause if so consider me motivated.

We're supposed to get a Vergil play-by-play, so I'm assuming we'll see actual game footage. There's also going to be a Bloody Palace challenge later in the day, but I don't know if it specifies a character.
 

AzureSwordsman

Neo Member
I'm hoping (though doubting) that a future move is Yamato roundtrip, as seen in the trailer. I'm sure Force Edge will have it yeah, but having another doesn't hurt?
 

Lord Dante

Neo Member
So, how much DMC-related stuff has happened since the remasters were announced?

DmC DE
DMC4SE
DMC series soundtrack released on iTunes
Monster Hunter DMC costumes
Man at Arms forges Rebellion
Project X-Zone 2 features Dante and Vergil as playable characters
Capcom-sponsored Style Tournament

Anything else?

NECA Devil May Cry Dante action figure releasing this year after 7 years in development and the Devil May Cry 3142 Graphic Arts book releasing as well.
 

Sephzilla

Member
So, how much DMC-related stuff has happened since the remasters were announced?

DmC DE
DMC4SE
DMC series soundtrack released on iTunes
Monster Hunter DMC costumes
Man at Arms forges Rebellion
Project X-Zone 2 features Dante and Vergil as playable characters
Capcom-sponsored Style Tournament

Anything else?

NECA Devil May Cry Dante action figure releasing this year after 7 years in development and the Devil May Cry 3142 Graphic Arts book releasing as well.

At this point I'll be more surprised if we dont see DMC5 this year at either E3 or TGS. The Devil May Cry fanbase has been catered to a fucking ton this year.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
So, how much DMC-related stuff has happened since the remasters were announced?

DmC DE
DMC4SE
DMC series soundtrack released on iTunes
Monster Hunter DMC costumes
Man at Arms forges Rebellion
Project X-Zone 2 features Dante and Vergil as playable characters
Capcom-sponsored Style Tournament

Anything else?

Honestly, there's been a host of classic DMC-related things trickling out since vanilla DmC launched, whereas DmC's only cross-over was really Playstation AllStars. I've been keeping tabs on this stuff for a long while now. I have a list at home, because I'm a big loser.
 
NECA Devil May Cry Dante action figure releasing this year after 7 years in development and the Devil May Cry 3142 Graphic Arts book releasing as well.

DMC1 Dante was also a costume for one of the characters in a Sengoku Basara game. Can't remember which game. That might've been pre-remaster though.
 

TreIII

Member
At this point I'll be more surprised if we dont see DMC5 this year at either E3 or TGS. The Devil May Cry fanbase has been catered to a fucking ton this year.

Like I said before: I'd be VERY surprised if the "secret project that doesn't even have a codename yet" that Mr. Southworth talked about in that MMPR podcast wasn't DMC5, itself.

Even if all they may show at E3 is perhaps a title drop and CG teaser, I think they're going to show us SOMETHING to keep the hype train going well into TGS and beyond. Because after all, even 4SE is just a nice appetizer.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus

A nothing response, but expected. What else can he really say?

We know that Capcom isn't doing this out of strict animosity towards their fan base. They're doing it to cut costs because they think they'll make the most money this way. They're looking at the growth of digital sales data in the West, and using the recent success of REmake as support for this all digital movement in the west for budget remasters.

It's bullshit, and it's absolutely shitting on fans even if it's not the goal (the actual goal is always money).

REmake isn't DMC4. REmake was a game that was only previously available on Nintendo consoles, and is now largely unavailable to play through most avenues. People were going to snatch that up in whatever way possible. DMC4 is still widely available at a steep discount on the very much alive 360, PS3, and PC. Even with the extras, this game won't do as well as they think with a digital only release.

They could absolutely afford to do a limited physical release and have it pay out for them. They just don't want to bother because they consider it a risk, when I think it's pretty obvious that it's not. I'm sure DMC4SE will do well in the West digital only. It would do much better with limited physical + digital a la RER2. They should realize that every time they do a digital only release, it's a slap in the face to a lot of their fans, and I find it reprehensible that DmCDE gets greenlit for a physical release before DMC4SE.

At the end of the day, I can only be so indignant. They're developing and releasing an SE of DMC4 which is absolutely amazing, even if I think that they're making a huge mistake in how it's released.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Isn't there a "Featuring Vergil from the Devil May Cry series" logo as well? I could've sword I had seen it on one of the Sengoku Basara games.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Isn't there a "Featuring Vergil from the Devil May Cry series" logo as well? I could've sword I had seen it on one of the Sengoku Basara games.

I'm not positive, but I don't think so. Vergil was never fully playable in Sengoku Basara as far as I know. There was just a Vergil costume.
 

TreIII

Member
A nothing response, but expected. What else can he really say?

We know that Capcom isn't doing this out of strict animosity towards their fan base. They're doing it to cut costs because they think they'll make the most money this way. They're looking at the growth of digital sales data in the West, and using the recent success of REmake as support for this all digital movement in the west for budget remasters.

It's bullshit, and it's absolutely shitting on fans even if it's not the goal (the actual goal is always money).

REmake isn't DMC4. REmake was a game that was only previously available on Nintendo consoles, and is now largely unavailable to play through most avenues. People were going to snatch that up in whatever way possible. DMC4 is still widely available at a steep discount on the very much alive 360, PS3, and PC. Even with the extras, this game won't do as well as they think with a digital only release.

They could absolutely afford to do a limited physical release and have it pay out for them. They just don't want to bother because they consider it a risk, when I think it's pretty obvious that it's not. I'm sure DMC4SE will do well in the West digital only. It would do much better with limited physical + digital a la RER2. They should realize that every time they do a digital only release, it's a slap in the face to a lot of their fans, and I find it reprehensible that DmCDE gets greenlit for a physical release before DMC4SE.

At the end of the day, I can only be so indignant. They're developing and releasing an SE of DMC4 which is absolutely amazing, even if I think that they're making a huge mistake in how it's released.

Preach.

I mean, even doing a very limited thing through Capcom's website store and a select few other online distributors would've been SOMETHING. As it is, it's weird that they're opting to make the Japanese import of 4SE a prize to be won in their DmC TrueStyle tournament.
 

Astral Dog

Member
A nothing response, but expected. What else can he really say?

We know that Capcom isn't doing this out of strict animosity towards their fan base. They're doing it to cut costs because they think they'll make the most money this way. They're looking at the growth of digital sales data in the West, and using the recent success of REmake as support for this all digital movement in the west for budget remasters.

It's bullshit, and it's absolutely shitting on fans even if it's not the goal (the actual goal is always money).

REmake isn't DMC4. REmake was a game that was only previously available on Nintendo consoles, and is now largely unavailable to play through most avenues. People were going to snatch that up in whatever way possible. DMC4 is still widely available at a steep discount on the very much alive 360, PS3, and PC. Even with the extras, this game won't do as well as they think with a digital only release.

They could absolutely afford to do a limited physical release and have it pay out for them. They just don't want to bother because they consider it a risk, when I think it's pretty obvious that it's not. I'm sure DMC4SE will do well in the West digital only. It would do much better with limited physical + digital a la RER2. They should realize that every time they do a digital only release, it's a slap in the face to a lot of their fans,
and I find it reprehensible that DmCDE gets greenlit for a physical release before DMC4SE
.

At the end of the day, I can only be so indignant. They're developing and releasing an SE of DMC4 which is absolutely amazing, even if I think that they're making a huge mistake in how it's released.
this is the worst, if DmC and DMC 4 were both digital, at least we could say its part of their (not very consumer friendly) digital strategy, but both DmC and REV 2 got physical releases.
its obviously a case by case basis, so it makes it appear like DMC 4 is the lesser game, im sure some casual fans will not even know or wont be that interested on the game without a retail release, and only see DmC DE on store shelves. a lost oportunity as DMC 4 SE could be the first or second DMC game they play :/

but, lets just move on, there is nothing to do.
 

Lord Dante

Neo Member
A nothing response, but expected. What else can he really say?

We know that Capcom isn't doing this out of strict animosity towards their fan base. They're doing it to cut costs because they think they'll make the most money this way. They're looking at the growth of digital sales data in the West, and using the recent success of REmake as support for this all digital movement in the west for budget remasters.

It's bullshit, and it's absolutely shitting on fans even if it's not the goal (the actual goal is always money).

REmake isn't DMC4. REmake was a game that was only previously available on Nintendo consoles, and is now largely unavailable to play through most avenues. People were going to snatch that up in whatever way possible. DMC4 is still widely available at a steep discount on the very much alive 360, PS3, and PC. Even with the extras, this game won't do as well as they think with a digital only release.

They could absolutely afford to do a limited physical release and have it pay out for them. They just don't want to bother because they consider it a risk, when I think it's pretty obvious that it's not. I'm sure DMC4SE will do well in the West digital only. It would do much better with limited physical + digital a la RER2. They should realize that every time they do a digital only release, it's a slap in the face to a lot of their fans, and I find it reprehensible that DmCDE gets greenlit for a physical release before DMC4SE.

At the end of the day, I can only be so indignant. They're developing and releasing an SE of DMC4 which is absolutely amazing, even if I think that they're making a huge mistake in how it's released.

Agreed! +1

I'm getting this gut feeling that maybe Capcom wants to throw the DMC franchise in the brig next to MegaMan and other beloved franchises. Ugh.

I still find it unfair how DmC DE got a physical release despite this "growth of digital sales in the west".
:/
 

AzureSwordsman

Neo Member
Agreed! +1

I'm getting this gut feeling that maybe Capcom wants to throw the DMC franchise in the brig next to MegaMan and other beloved franchises. Ugh.

I still find it unfair how DmC DE got a physical release despite this "growth of digital sales in the west".
:/

Mind you DmC sold the /poorest/, the thing that bothers me is their excuse behind it.
 
I bought DmC:DE partly because it looked like a substantial upgrade from it's vanilla version, but moreso to show that yes Capcom, I will buy physical re-releases if you make the option available.

So much for voting with my wallet.
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
Mind you DmC sold the /poorest/, the thing that bothers me is their excuse behind it. When there's dual subs, and dubs, what's the problem?

If anyone has any idea, it would be cool to know actually.

You mean why they can't just release a physical version of DMC4SE here for little to no cost since it already has dubs in the Japanese version? I don't think we actually know of the Japanese version will have English menus or subtitles... I asked Gregaman on Twitter, but didn't get a response. He might not know yet.

Anyway, this is speculation, but even a small release in the U.S. is probably larger than a moderate release in Japan. There are manufacturing costs associated with it. And it has to be certified and approved by Sony and Microsoft, maybe? They have to work with retailers? They'd have to make new packaging?

DmCDE and RER2 both received a really small physical release in the U.S. Most stores only got a handful of copies, while some got none at all. I don't see why they couldn't do this for DMC4SE.
 
DmCDE and RER2 both received a really small physical release in the U.S. Most stores only got a handful of copies, while some got none at all. I don't see why they couldn't do this for DMC4SE.

I'm gonna take a guess and say it's to do with Capcoms current financial state.....or just more questionable business decisions.
 

AzureSwordsman

Neo Member
You mean why they can't just release a physical version of DMC4SE here for little to no cost since it already has dubs in the Japanese version? I don't think we actually know of the Japanese version will have English menus or subtitles... I asked Gregaman on Twitter, but didn't get a response. He might not know yet.

Anyway, this is speculation, but even a small release in the U.S. is probably larger than a moderate release in Japan. There are manufacturing costs associated with it. And it has to be certified and approved by Sony and Microsoft, maybe? They have to work with retailers? They'd have to make new packaging?

DmCDE and RER2 both received a really small physical release in the U.S. Most stores only got a handful of copies, while some got none at all. I don't see why they couldn't do this for DMC4SE.


This brings things a bit more into perspective. I can see the new packaging deal, and the approval stuff. But again, like you said, that didn't stop DmCDE or RER2. Ahaha. In all honesty I really don't know. I plan to import the game anyway for the sake of a physical.
And as for the menu thing, I have a feeling it's /probably/ going to have english menus. Maybe not subtitles, but if it speaks to the same mindset as Biohazard, at the least english menus. I'm not sure if the original had english menus either.
 
I think Capcom doesn't have as much faith in DMC brand to give two remasters retail releases.. I think their hope is that DmC will sell a little better in retail in the US/Europe if it isn't competing against DMC4:SE. But I think they are underestimating the classic DMC fanbase in US/Europe (at least I hope so, otherwise DMC5 will probably be the last one).

Heck when I talk to my cousins about DMC they are kind of confused between there being a classic series and the reboot... So yah..
 

Lord Dante

Neo Member
I'm gonna take a guess and say it's to do with Capcoms current financial state.....or just more questionable business decisions.

I'm gonna go with both. DmCDE got physical even with their current financial state. But I don't know, just my own speculation.

I'm probably gonna end up importing the physical to add to my DMC collection.
 
I'm gonna go with both. DmCDE got physical even with their current financial state. But I don't know, just my own speculation.

I'm probably gonna end up importing the physical to add to my DMC collection.

Yeah, definitely going to import.

But still, I find it just plain bizarre (Even for Capcom) that a remaster of the lowest selling game in the series gets a physical release, while the highest selling one is relegated to digital.

Maybe they'll pull a DuckTales Remastered and do a physical US release somewhere down the line. Still curious as to how they pulled that one off, and on 3 platforms (4, if you count the EU only physical PC release), at that.
 
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