DmC: DE already cratered in Europe as it is.
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Devil May Cry 4 SE: Vergil, Trish & Lady Playable, Release Date 18th of June
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might have something to do with distribution/production deals for the non-DE version. maybe they already had a next-gen upgrade in the pipleline long ago and were able to set things up for a physical release ahead of time. just being associated with a more recently distributed game or something like that. I have no idea how this stuff works, though.
I'm just pissed I have to wait a whole week to play on PC. fuck that shit.
I'm just pissed I have to wait a whole week to play on PC. fuck that shit.
AzureSwordsman
Neo Member
It's small, but definitely noticeable. Me personally, I feel it is more noticeable in DMC4 because with enemy step being a specific move, sort of makes the timing more forgiving as opposed to careful timing in DMC3.
Lord Dante
Neo Member
Yeah. I'm not a big fan of DmC and I do find it strange that they'd remaster that game if it sold the lowest.
:/ Capcom was probably trying to squeeze as much as they could from it. Who knows?
I hope they do! I need me a physical DMC4 SE copy!
Maybe after the E3 week?
direct_quote
Member
They'll probably release a physical release down the line that contains both DMCs, but that will probably be a couple months before DMC5 launches..
Maybe a bit sooner than that. By the end of this year, 4SE would have been out for like 4-5 months. The DE even longer. If they wanted to try and make one last push to sell both games for a cheap pack that could be picked up for cheap post-Black Friday? That's one way to do it.
But anyway, let's try to lighten the mood shall we? The next Capcom TV event is in a few hours, right?
It is? Damnit. I should have the day off. They're doing two consecutive streams, right?
direct_quote
Member
Next week in gaming magazines..
http://www.play-asia.com/devil-may-...-voices-sssubtitles-paOS-5f-74-63n-49-en.html
No mention of Japanese version. Asian version is also cheaper than Japanese version so I'll probably end up going for that.
No mention of Japanese version. Asian version is also cheaper than Japanese version so I'll probably end up going for that.
PensivePen
Member
Just got to work and there is no archive of the Capcom stream? Why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar8lWrY-vsQ
Thank you!
matrix-cat
Member
Came here to post this. The Asian version is cheaper and has both languages, so it seems like the best of both worlds.
AgentLampshade
Member
My work blocks YouTube. I need gifs like, now.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Goooooooooooooooodaaaaaaaaaaaaamnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!
Wow, is that number of enemies Virgil's chapter or just a difficulty setting?
Interesting how the concentration gauge drops really fast when running during combat but rises really fast when walking (while locked on) during combat.
That's the Legendary Dark Knight difficulty from the PC version.
That's the Legendary Dark Knight difficulty from the PC version.
That's what I thought but I wasn't sure if they were advertising it as part of Vergil's chapter(s) or just wanted to make him more difficult for "long time fans."
Good to know I can go through the game with him on the normal amount of enemies until I'm motivated enough to do Legendary Dark Knight.
There's no Asian e-Capcom edition though, is there?
I already have the Japanese e-Capcom version pre-ordered. I might just pre-order a regular Asian version as well.
Mr. Pointy
Member
I'm trying to remember if the PC version of DMC4 looked this good. I don't think it had the motion blur.
The Silver
Member
fucking ridic
That's what I'm thinking too since the trailer.
FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
This looks amazing! It runs insanely smoothly with insanely large amount of enemies! Hell yes!
Capcom's execs are such imbeciles. The west gets a physical DmC release only because idiodic reasoning, despite the fact that that version sold the least. I'm definitely considering importing my first game.
This looks amazing! It runs insanely smoothly with insanely large amount of enemies! Hell yes!
Capcom's execs are such imbeciles. The west gets a physical DmC release only because idiodic reasoning, despite the fact that that version sold the least. I'm definitely considering importing my first game.
direct_quote
Member
Damn Vergil looks sexy as fuck, you did good Itsuno, you did good. Makes DmC Vergil look like his bitch..
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Edit: Letting my hype get the better of me.
JP version of DMC titles typically have an English text option.
Vergil wouldn't look as good as he did if DmC Vergil hadn't come first with Grim Trick and other moves.
Fixed.
AgentLampshade
Member
Do you guys not remember what Dante says to Vergil right at the end?
Vergil actually WAS holding back.
"c'mon get up. You can do better than that."
Just rechecked the stream. Apparently, the Concentration gauge starts to climb automatically as long as Vergil is avoiding enemies. Not dodging, but simply avoiding. They used the verb "yokeru", which means "to avoid, to avert".
Also Vergil does not lose the built-up gauge when hit during DT.
Edit: Correction, as long as you're walking and not getting hit, the Concentration gauge will increase automatically, and will start to decrease when you're running.
So what we know about Concentration so far:
- Has 3 levels. Each level gradually powers up Vergil's moves, giving them bigger range and dealing more damage.
- Gauge increases while hitting enemies, walking and not getting hit.
- Gauge decreases when whiffing attacks, running and getting hit. Getting hit instantly reduces the gauge to zero. However, the gauge does not drop from getting hit when in DT state.
- Super Dimension Slash seems to be exclusive to level 3. Whether or not DT is necessary remains to be seen. The gauge does not drop after performing it, though.
Also Vergil does not lose the built-up gauge when hit during DT.
Edit: Correction, as long as you're walking and not getting hit, the Concentration gauge will increase automatically, and will start to decrease when you're running.
So what we know about Concentration so far:
- Has 3 levels. Each level gradually powers up Vergil's moves, giving them bigger range and dealing more damage.
- Gauge increases while hitting enemies, walking and not getting hit.
- Gauge decreases when whiffing attacks, running and getting hit. Getting hit instantly reduces the gauge to zero. However, the gauge does not drop from getting hit when in DT state.
- Super Dimension Slash seems to be exclusive to level 3. Whether or not DT is necessary remains to be seen. The gauge does not drop after performing it, though.
If confirmed, I'm importing the Asian version now and gonna have to find some nice ass paper for a custom cover art.
I hope some of you talented folks can whip up something CUHRAZY in the custom cover art thread
I'll take stalk-y vergil husbando creep shots
Eolz
Member
Rhis new Vergil footage is insane. Can't wait to see the other "new" characters.
Thanks for the info. Not interested in the asian version since I want the collector one, so I may preorder it with less fears of it being jp text only.
Thanks for the info. Not interested in the asian version since I want the collector one, so I may preorder it with less fears of it being jp text only.
too bad if it is, will still enjoy the game.
AzureSwordsman
Neo Member
I'm did a very quick, very mini analysis of the stream.
So from the Capcom TV gameplay, upon first glance I'm noticing Vergil is about 5x faster than his DMC3 version, and leagues faster than the DmC counterpart.
They changed his jump attack commands. Rather than two equal swift slashes, it's a triple slash. (In which most know already) that will definitely change how jump cancels work with him.
The biggest thing that I'm noticing is that summoned swords speed has increased as well. Like christ. Summoned swords are now sticking into enemies, taking on properties that are similar to Lucifer. Summoned swords have never done that before, as they would dissapear on contact in DMC3.
Summoned swords has a new formation that has them being called down from the sky.
Rapid slash makes an appearance again. Via Devil trigger he performs it 3 TIMES IN A ROW.
His concentration meter must have different effects on enemies, cause two slashes seemed to have tore through an Alto Angelos shield.
He's also doing something in Devil Trigger that's directing summoned swords from all sides in a target area, WHILE doing rapid slash 3X, making for amazing crowd control. Again, there was a lot of enemies and the gameplay was super fast, I could use a confirmation on this.
In Devil trigger..with the concentration gauge up fairly high, he basically just performed his boss move in DMC3 which involved him rapidlly vanishing and slashing the entire screen. Enemies freeze until he sheathes Yamato. (As seen in gifs above)
Remember Dante's Judgement Cut in DMC4 and how long it took for that effect to come out?
Yeah, Vergils is an instant frame basically
Hard to gauge the effects of air stinger. But yeah it is shorter, but REALLY fast. It seems like it has potential to be canceled too but im not sure. Like he killed an enemy with it on contact in the air. I can say that air stinger is not in a straight line like I imagined it would be, but rather a short yet potent burst.
Noooot sure what level his spiral swords are, but if this is level one speed..im scared to see it maxed out.
Here's somthing that blew my mind. Remember Dante's rushing Agni and Rudra move that had him slashing multiple times? At the most, 3 or 4(?) slashes came out. While Vergil is using Force edge, he runs and slashes with both FE and Yamato in rapid succession the ENTIRE trip. And FINSIHES it with a jump spinning like slash that ends with Force edge coming down
Vergil now has a rapid kick while using beowulf. It seems like it doesn't need to be charged up like Dante's. It seems to work like a rapid button pres?? Also the hit box is huge. It's not just hitting whats in front of him, but his minor left and right angles too. (Again, he was in DT)
I couldn't see well because of all the enemies (LDK mode) but it seems like he did a combo resembling Dante's pause version with Rebellion.
Vergil can now do million stab with FE, appearing to branch out wider and look just a tad different.
That's all i could gather in such short time.
So from the Capcom TV gameplay, upon first glance I'm noticing Vergil is about 5x faster than his DMC3 version, and leagues faster than the DmC counterpart.
They changed his jump attack commands. Rather than two equal swift slashes, it's a triple slash. (In which most know already) that will definitely change how jump cancels work with him.
The biggest thing that I'm noticing is that summoned swords speed has increased as well. Like christ. Summoned swords are now sticking into enemies, taking on properties that are similar to Lucifer. Summoned swords have never done that before, as they would dissapear on contact in DMC3.
Summoned swords has a new formation that has them being called down from the sky.
Rapid slash makes an appearance again. Via Devil trigger he performs it 3 TIMES IN A ROW.
His concentration meter must have different effects on enemies, cause two slashes seemed to have tore through an Alto Angelos shield.
He's also doing something in Devil Trigger that's directing summoned swords from all sides in a target area, WHILE doing rapid slash 3X, making for amazing crowd control. Again, there was a lot of enemies and the gameplay was super fast, I could use a confirmation on this.
In Devil trigger..with the concentration gauge up fairly high, he basically just performed his boss move in DMC3 which involved him rapidlly vanishing and slashing the entire screen. Enemies freeze until he sheathes Yamato. (As seen in gifs above)
Remember Dante's Judgement Cut in DMC4 and how long it took for that effect to come out?
Yeah, Vergils is an instant frame basically
Hard to gauge the effects of air stinger. But yeah it is shorter, but REALLY fast. It seems like it has potential to be canceled too but im not sure. Like he killed an enemy with it on contact in the air. I can say that air stinger is not in a straight line like I imagined it would be, but rather a short yet potent burst.
Noooot sure what level his spiral swords are, but if this is level one speed..im scared to see it maxed out.
Here's somthing that blew my mind. Remember Dante's rushing Agni and Rudra move that had him slashing multiple times? At the most, 3 or 4(?) slashes came out. While Vergil is using Force edge, he runs and slashes with both FE and Yamato in rapid succession the ENTIRE trip. And FINSIHES it with a jump spinning like slash that ends with Force edge coming down
Vergil now has a rapid kick while using beowulf. It seems like it doesn't need to be charged up like Dante's. It seems to work like a rapid button pres?? Also the hit box is huge. It's not just hitting whats in front of him, but his minor left and right angles too. (Again, he was in DT)
I couldn't see well because of all the enemies (LDK mode) but it seems like he did a combo resembling Dante's pause version with Rebellion.
Vergil can now do million stab with FE, appearing to branch out wider and look just a tad different.
That's all i could gather in such short time.
PensivePen
Member
Honestly the menus in DMC are so simple I really can't see them being a barrier for anyone enjoying the game.
I don't think it's even similar. His boss move was multiple dimension slashes appearing here and there, not one big ultra dimension slash.
If you see it closely he's actually doing multiple Dimension Slashes. It's more easily appreciated in the first DMC4SE trailer.