[DF Clips] DriveClub: PS5 at 60FPS vs PS4 vs PS4 Pro Unlocked!
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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This seems to be just a teaser of a larger project, btw. More to come soon!
ReBurn
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We lost Evolution Studios because they shipped a broken game, not because someone thought arcade racers wouldn't do well.
Fahdis
Member
Please. Have you seen the broken shit being churned out these days?
midnightAI
Member
Wait, you mean to tell.me the PS5 is more powerful than the PS4 Pro and the Pro is more powerful than the base PS4, huh, you learn something every day, thanks DF
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Laziness. Lack of talent. Focus on 4k 60 fps.
PixelatedBeast
Member
Which of those broken games do you see being released by Sony these days?
Whitecrow
Banned
Driveclub got DELISTED from the store. You cant buy it.
A lot of shit had to be going behind the scenes.
A prediction of a game not doing well matters when you pitch the idea, not when you already have the product ready to sell.
systemr123
Banned
These days it's unfortunately normal to churn out broken shit to the level that publishers don't care anymore, which is the worst situation possible for us gamers.
At the time of DC release, games were still supposed to be pretty good immediately on release and even though I love the game to my bones, it wasn't very good at release. I can see why they did what they did with closing the studio down and they actually should do this nowadays still, too much crap comes out now and if you pay for a game to play it day one you have to suffer for months or years until patches are released that make the game bearable.
Boy bawang
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DF scraping the bottom of the barrel for content.
Unknown?
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Ftfy.
Denton
Member
Would buy 60fps PC version day one. Travesty that Sony never published a Pro/PS5 patch as well. What a fantastic game so needlessly kept down.
If you don't like it don't watch it, but you don't have to be a moron about it.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Jimbo was the head of European operations back then.
Fahdis
Member
*Points to PC ports*
ReBurn
Gold Member
Yes. But Driveclub was a special kind of broken. It was the kind of broken that gave Sony a huge black eye because they couldn't deliver on the very much hyped PlayStation Plus edition that they were advertising to sell subscriptions. The game was already in the bargain bin before they delivered on their promises. At least they gave a ton of DLC away for free to try to make up for it, but the fact that they had to do it killed any confidence in that team.
To address your earlier point, arcade racers really don't sell that well any more regardless. That's why we don't get that many compared to the PS360 days.
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Unknown?
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And his bosses approved it. Also he was not in charge of shutting down studios.
Fess
Member
Yeah and the devs are spread out at several studios but it really makes you wonder if the rain physics guy just quit his job and the industry altogether, as you say no game has had similar effects.
I see water physics in general being bad too very often and it was ages ago since Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance did the water rings effects. It can be such a letdown to walk through a puddle or swim and nothing at all happens, feels like the character isn't connected to the game world.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
Proof that a modded PS5 is the best purchase you can make for a home console.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Add to the Driveclub PS+ edition that people demanded had more content and refused to buy the retail version because Sony promise something they didn't.
Evo giving into to the demands that not being enough and you got yourself a failed launch that Evo paid for because people wanted stuff for free
Fess
Member
Good idea!
How do you access the higher framerates? Do you need jailbreaks etc?
Audiophile
Member
What could have been..
*cries into Cheerios*
*cries into Cheerios*
FeralEcho
Member
We should lose half the industry then cuz broken games are the norm nowadays.
I believe a lot of the heavy lifting relating to the weather effects were handled by ICE, the cross-studio support team. There was an interview clip at E3 in which one of the Evo guys was asked about dynamic weather (it was absent at initial reveal) and he said that it would be something that is coming and they've been working on it and "gave it to the ICE".
sankt-Antonio
Banned
How times have changed, the game had minor issues at launch and it completely made it bomb, no patch and optimization, free DLC actually changed that. In today's climate it would have been just like any other game.
Fess
Member
Makes it even stranger since GT don't have those rain effects either. But I guess Polyphony don't want anybody else touching their game.
I always thought it was Evolution's own tech. The mud in Motorstorm is the same. Nobody does that as convincing even today, Playground is close with the sand in Forza Horizon 5 but Evolution had mud spraying onto cars and it stayed, it was awesome.
Diversity hiring. Yes.
Virex
Banned
The game was basically broken on release.
Physiognomonics
Member
And oh right you are. Getting rid of Evolution studio is the last thing Jim Ryan did when he was still boss of Playstation Europe before becoming boss of Playstation world.
midnightAI
Member
Wait.(again), I've just thought, maybe DF can do a follow up video to this, maybe it will show the PS5 Pro is more powerful than the base PS5, can you imagine the controvesy?
(I think I'm maybe labelling the point a bit now)
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BouncyFrag
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Weather effects still amazing.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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LostDonkey
Member
The maddest thing about all this is that the game director is now working on fucking fishing games.
That's the most tragic outcome of all this.
That's the most tragic outcome of all this.
VolticArchangel
Member
Do the CFW PS5's running unsigned code, do internal native res bumps, or is it only unlocked framerate?
Audiophile
Member
I understand the studio shuttered, but this really should have gotten a Framerate Unlock and PS4 Pro Mode; they put out DC VR with a Pro mode just before they got shuttered. A bump to 1440p( or 2160cb); and a framerate unlock would have been child's play. Even immediately after shuttering Sony could have done it, I don't buy for one second that the codebase would be inaccessible or that anyone else couldn't have done anything with it. Even if their intentions at the time were to discontinue the game, providing such a basic update for the game wouldn't have broken the bank. I hope one day this gets fully emulated on PC and someone mods the crap out of it.
Regarding them being shuttered I really think Sony either threw the baby out with the bathwater or there was some politicking going on. Sure, the server stuff was a major cockup but with the rising tide of the PS4 and some nurturing; they very easily could have grown into much more of a major player in Sony's first party roster. DC provided a nice contrast to the more sterile GT experience. I think in the long run it was a bad decision for them and the fans. I think Driveclub + Motorstorm could have grown into much bigger franchises.
Regarding them being shuttered I really think Sony either threw the baby out with the bathwater or there was some politicking going on. Sure, the server stuff was a major cockup but with the rising tide of the PS4 and some nurturing; they very easily could have grown into much more of a major player in Sony's first party roster. DC provided a nice contrast to the more sterile GT experience. I think in the long run it was a bad decision for them and the fans. I think Driveclub + Motorstorm could have grown into much bigger franchises.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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You need an exploitable PS5 with a FW no older than 4.51 I think and the OG Drive Club disc version. John, Richard or who is doing this DF video will probably explain the process.
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Pgr4 on 360 also looked stunning especially during the rain, would give my.left nut for MS to bring that back via playground games
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