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Ps5 pushing 46% more frames at split seconds on 5 % of the game.
SX pushing 44% more pixels every single second of the game 100% of the game.
Maybe they should drop it to 1800p for that one level though.
[DF] Hitman 3 PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Comparison
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SX pushing 44% more pixels every single second of the game 100% of the game.
Maybe they should drop it to 1800p for that one level though.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
And why are people now acting as if 1800p is some crazy huge difference from native 4K?
assurdum
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Crazy is not but it's definitely bizzarre such difference on ps5.
Tickle My Tendies
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I know most people won't even read this, and most of those that do won't care, but I am gonna say it anyway:
Hypocrisy destroys any and all comparison discussions. You have to keep the same energy both ways.
People who throw parades when one console has some slight edge over the other and then turn around and thumb their nose when the other console gets a slight advantage in a different game, that's not helpful at all.
I understand that, back in the summer, the "XsX Superiority" narrative leading up to launch was kind of exhausting, and when PS5 won many matchups of the launch window titles there was justified "eat crow!" responses, but facts are facts and it appears that XsX wins this one clearly. Just one case, nothing world shattering, but a valid win that is worth noting.
Moving the goalposts and whatnot accomplishes nothing. Seems to happen every thread.
It's okay. PS5 is still awesome. From what I can tell this is a great looking game, regardless of platform. Amazing what the engine can do without the need of RT. I would have guessed it had RT reflections based on how good they look.
It's not, but higher resolution and shadows, as slight as it may be, is still a noteworthy advantage. Similar things have been called clear wins for PS5 in other games. Fair is fair.
Hypocrisy destroys any and all comparison discussions. You have to keep the same energy both ways.
People who throw parades when one console has some slight edge over the other and then turn around and thumb their nose when the other console gets a slight advantage in a different game, that's not helpful at all.
I understand that, back in the summer, the "XsX Superiority" narrative leading up to launch was kind of exhausting, and when PS5 won many matchups of the launch window titles there was justified "eat crow!" responses, but facts are facts and it appears that XsX wins this one clearly. Just one case, nothing world shattering, but a valid win that is worth noting.
Moving the goalposts and whatnot accomplishes nothing. Seems to happen every thread.
It's okay. PS5 is still awesome. From what I can tell this is a great looking game, regardless of platform. Amazing what the engine can do without the need of RT. I would have guessed it had RT reflections based on how good they look.
It's not, but higher resolution and shadows, as slight as it may be, is still a noteworthy advantage. Similar things have been called clear wins for PS5 in other games. Fair is fair.
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SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
This thread...
Can't even try the "parity is a win" here. I'm guessing it's going to be the 1/3rd of a second loadtime advantage from more than double the SSd speed that's the real reason the PS5 wins?
Can't even try the "parity is a win" here. I'm guessing it's going to be the 1/3rd of a second loadtime advantage from more than double the SSd speed that's the real reason the PS5 wins?
Md Ray
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Again, a drop is still a drop. You don't see that on PS5 because it isn't being pushed as hard as SX. This means there's a good chance PS5 performs identical to XSX if the resolution and shadow quality were on par just like in other games.
DJTaurus
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SmokSmog
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5760 000pixels vs 8 294 400
44% more for Xbox SX
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
If you ask me 1800p is better than 2160p. Its more balanced.
Doncabesa
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It's rough watching most gaming journalists play games. It's why streamers took off so much, people finally got to see high quality gameplay for once.WTF you talking about its 5000 football pitches long. Hence why he is using a SNIPER RIFLE.
I will say one thing, the way these people at Df that play games, makes me cry inside.
Wouldn't say I'm a fanboi but the PS5 is the system for me. Isn't this the hierarchy we assumed from the start?Waiting for those sony fanboys..
skit_data
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I guess from here on the "tools" have officially arrived. This is where we draw a line. From here on, I dont want to hear "curious case", "surprising", "possibly a bug" or anything similar. Am i right? Or will these test by DF and others only matter to some when its in their favourite consoles favor?
No more beating around the bush. From anyone. Capish?
No more beating around the bush. From anyone. Capish?
GaviotaGrande
Banned
Don't you know that pixels only matter when PlayStation 5 is pushing more of them?
Riky
$MSFT
That's like Xbox One X v PS4 Pro difference, massive chasm.
Cherrypepsi
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Finally some tools!
carloseduardocd
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Maybe it's the first next-gen game without DRS.
Xbox Series X in native 4k has few dips. PS5 in native 4k should have more dips.
In static resolution, PS5 at 1800p shows constant 60fps .
Maybe with DRS PS5 should get 4k in some scenarios.
But of course, clear Xbox Series X win.
Xbox Series X in native 4k has few dips. PS5 in native 4k should have more dips.
In static resolution, PS5 at 1800p shows constant 60fps .
Maybe with DRS PS5 should get 4k in some scenarios.
But of course, clear Xbox Series X win.
AnotherOne
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My work here is done.
StreetsofBeige
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Easier to push frames when a game is at 1800p like the PS4 Pro days.
That's exactly in line with both paper specs
mckmas8808
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And how many people can tell a difference between 1800p and 2160p? But you're right, more pixels are better. But not if the game drops to 40 fps in parts.
Tickle My Tendies
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PS5 has framerate advantage during one portion of one level.
XsX has resolution and shadows advantage in every portion of every level.
assurdum
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I'm not exactly shocked knowing them but really after so many games so close on both, how can be considered "normal" suddenly such difference in resolution in this multiplat? I'd like to know more.
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Roberts
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It's not a huuuuge difference, but is clearly visible. I have a harder time to tell the difference between 1440p and 1800p than between 1800p and 4k.
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Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
And thats a 100% okay. Threads like these are a good laugh but i dont think anyone is going to miss out buying either system. I hope by the end of the Gen everyone gets both systems and not miss out on the relative exclusives.
Thirty7ven
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Jesus, "AN XBOX ADVANTAGE AT 4K"
Wow, and people had the nerve of calling them unbiased. They shouting the win from the rooftops. Not just that they are using coded language for the search engine.
People saying they notice 1800p to 4K but 1440p is ok are hilarious.
Wow, and people had the nerve of calling them unbiased. They shouting the win from the rooftops. Not just that they are using coded language for the search engine.
People saying they notice 1800p to 4K but 1440p is ok are hilarious.
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assurdum
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What a clown. Guy like this are worse than any fanboy because statement like this are full of hypocrisy. You can't make a case by a single game, it's really unfair
The fire rises...
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Md Ray
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Expected locked 60fps.
Tickle My Tendies
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This is Series S. Do...I mean...sorry to Series S owners, but do most of us really care how the S version does?
CurtBizzy
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Hopefully they can fix the drop frames,
The fire rises...
pasterpl
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Expected locked 60fps.
maybe if they would reduce shadow detail to ps5 level
Justin9mm
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I thought it was all about frame rate and not resolution.. PS5 holds locked 60 at 1800p and Xbox fps dips at 2160p.
I would imagine that in this case PS5 fairs slightly better because the difference between 1800p and 2160p is quite minimal, especially in a game like this.
If it was say 1440p vs 2160p well that would be a difference.
At the end of the day, we all know the X has more raw power and its not surprising it can push higher frames but the fact it can't hold 60 especially for this type of game is worrying. Even with the PS5, next gen consoles have failed to deliver to be honest.
I would imagine that in this case PS5 fairs slightly better because the difference between 1800p and 2160p is quite minimal, especially in a game like this.
If it was say 1440p vs 2160p well that would be a difference.
At the end of the day, we all know the X has more raw power and its not surprising it can push higher frames but the fact it can't hold 60 especially for this type of game is worrying. Even with the PS5, next gen consoles have failed to deliver to be honest.
Not more than some posters here
but I'll take Alex info is more reliable.. as he talks to devs
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M1chl
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Wait, it's not DRS?
1440p to 4k is absolutely unrealistic, that's 2x more pixels, 1800p is still 44% advantage, which is pretty huge honestly. Framerate as well as Resolution, I am sure they could improve things on both systems.
1440p to 4k is absolutely unrealistic, that's 2x more pixels, 1800p is still 44% advantage, which is pretty huge honestly. Framerate as well as Resolution, I am sure they could improve things on both systems.
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DeepEnigma
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So... that's a no?
OsirisBlack
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That DF title
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Stuart360
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Slightly off topic but all these 'tools' memes are getting frustrating. It was a certain section of fans, in the 'Next Gen' thread, that for months wouldnt shut up about Xbox tools being way behind PS5. Then when the games finally came, and we got results that backed up what they had been spouting for months, it all became a joke and bad tools are just an excuse by Xbots etc.
At least be consistent with your bullshit.
At least be consistent with your bullshit.
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ChuckeRearmed
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Has the bloodbath started already?
waquzy
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I doubt it mate...
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Another win for the most powerful and fastest console, the PlayStation 5.
Lol @ the video and thread title.
Lol @ the video and thread title.
Tickle My Tendies
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It drops in one part of one level. Kinda tired of having to repeat this. According to DF, anyway.
J_Gamer.exe
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Yeah weird there's no ps5 advantage slapped on the titles of videos ps5 performed better in, even though it does in this one. Very bizarre behaviour but only if you look for fairness, if you look with a view to DF seemingly being relieved about xbox 'winning' something it makes more sense.
Also its one game, one engine, we've seen many results go other ways, with advantages here and there.
We've seen them perform the same so its odd the devs of this one aren't able to on ps5, does this game favour a pc like setup? There's clearly some head room on ps5 at 1800p as xbox drops to 41fps at times when scoping or low 50s in the grass.
Will df be investigating to see why its a lower res like they do with xbox? Afterall, weve seen ps5 match or out perform so whats going on, must be a bug eh
or lazy devs eh... obviously this set of devs haven't got to grips with the ps5 tools.....LOL.But id be interested to know what would happen both at 4k. I'll await df reaching out the the devs....
Barry Burton
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I'm carrying progress over from PS4 and would have leaned towards getting that version anyway for VR and for making/sharing clips. Bummer that it's not quite as good as Series X version (which, all other things being equal, I probably would have gone with). That said, 1800p/60fps with ultra textures sounds good to me.
carloseduardocd
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Why?
ChuckeRearmed
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What? Tools being behind is a common notion and people - like me for example - have been claiming that with the tools maturing we will some difference sooner or later and the previous results where people were looking for Cerny sauce should have been taken with a grain of salt. Now suddenly Xbox X became better and argument switched to "no no your tools are not maturing, games is just not optimized for PS5" etc. So typical console warring.
waquzy
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It drops whenever you use the sniper rifle, how hard is it to understand?! Go and watch the video again
assurdum
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I'm not talking about the tools improvement but use a single case of better "multiplat" as statistical and evidence of something. A single game has completely deleted what is happens until now in multiplat because it shows an advantage on series X.Not more than some posters here
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M1chl
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This scenario is hell for Direct X...
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