Fake
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Both Sony and Apple iPhone uses LG Oled supply.
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Ulysses 31
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But that don't mean the the picture quality is practically the same, video processors can enhance colors/black levels, movement and even brightness like with Panasonic latest.
Not_a_Sony_pony
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You’re working backwards from your narrative. Not only is 20ms on 950g to 15ms on Samsung Q90R FALD truly imperceptible, but you can turn off local dimming on Sony sets if you want terrible blacks and bloom.
The game mode lag tests on rtings are just default game mode measurements.
I do find it hilarious however, some gamer is going to spend 5500 on the Samsung FALD qled 900ts this year only to have grey blacks and blooming in games
So yes you can buy a different brand if that lower number on the spreadsheet is the be all for you, but I am hinting at mislead priorities.
Fake
Member
Who tha hell said that? o0
Picture quality processor still play a huge role in brand market. Thats why I find Bravia TVs overall better with their x-reality pro, but I understand they need to focus more in reduce input lag while game mode is on + HDR.
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Kazekage1981
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how come DF dont mention Sony OLEDs and Sony LED's?
gamerforever
Banned
Pretty obvious one that. I don’t particularly bother with df these days.
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FranXico
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Take a wild guess...
dolabla
Member
Definitely agree with this. I think the 48"/49" type size is great. 43" as well. My Sony X800D 43" (VA panel) looks really sharp. It was and is a great budget tv and I've not been able to find anything like it since. I tested the 43" Samsung Q60R last year and it was horrible compared to my Sony. Both are edge lit, but the Samsung had light bleed like hell and the image just had a washed out look. Dirty screen is pretty much non existent on the Sony too.
BlitzerRadic
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4k 120hz isn't a big deal to me now since my TV is only used for consoles. Maybe by the time we actually start getting 120fps games, I'll be up for a new TV upgrade anyways.
I bought a Q80R fully expecting that I was going to replace it with a HDMI 2.1 tv this year, but this years LCDs aren't all getting me all that excited so I may hold on to it for another year. Sony doesn't have a high end HDMI 2.1 LCD, Samsungs 8K QLEDs might be an option but I would need to see how content scales in 8K. OLED is out because of burn in.
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Ulysses 31
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If my Q950R is anything to go by, things scale up fine to 8K.
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Fake
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I guess the previous TVs reviews they don't mention as well.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Well said.
BlitzerRadic
Member
That's good to hear. Hopefully reviews for the Q800T start coming out soon.
S0ULZB0URNE
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X800H has lower input lag than other TV's.
Hopefully the X900H follows it.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Some reviews are out and it's a solid TV. Only issue is one HDMI 2.1 port.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Yeah it's too fast that it's entering monitors territory, fastest so far with no local dimming but full array and no HDMI 2.1, so should be cheap:
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
OK I just watched it, and it's a clip taken from one of their videos with no context. What's the full clip?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Samsung AMOLED.
cyber_ninja
Member
What is the best 65-75 inch tv to buy right now, preferably for less than $3k?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That depends what characteristics in a TV you value most, and what you're gonna use it for.
cyber_ninja
Member
Low input lag, good picture quality.
We are on a gaming forum, duh...
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
There are tradeoffs with even only those two factors at play, because that matters to hardcore gamers who care about specs.
We are on an enthusiast gaming forum, duh.
DaleinCalgary
Member
As I mentioned before OLED LG C9 (fantastic input lag)is my choice as I have a dark room. If you have a light room that will have tons of windows a Samsung QLED may be better. But I don't know if they have HDMI 2.1 in them yet.
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Craig of War
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Whoa all this talk over 4K TV's when im still rocking my CRT TV with an HDMI to RCA converter box lol
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S0ULZB0URNE
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If used for a monitor or heavy gaming I don't recommend OLED due to burn in but if you decide that's not a issue get a Panasonic OLED.
If burn in is a issue and you want HDMI 2.1 consider the upcoming Sony X900H(that's the one I'm looking at) Samsung Q80T but that only has one HDMI 2.1 port and no Dolby Vision support.
TCL 6 series 2020 will also cover all the bases and has mini LED tech plus the TCL 8 series 2020 will as well but I'm not sure how it's input lag will be this year( was soso last year)
Vizio has a few HDMI 2.1 sets coming as well and they have Dolby Vision plus HDR 10+ even though I don't see HDR 10+ as a need.
Samsung and Sony also have new 8K displays with HDMI 2.1
Wildstar75
Member
I have high hopes for DirectML. I expect we will see quite a few games with 120FPS. Not just BC. 8K may even be possible for some games.
Reviews of this years Samsung 950TS / 900TS says 8k upscaling is a HUGE improvement over last year. Given that, HDM2.1 and the upgrade in Brightness it's hard to not like it. Gaming mode is 9ms, new this year is an enhanced visual gaming mode with 23ms latency for non-competitive games. No Dolby sucks.
Sony's blew it this year for gamers. If memory serves only the new 900 is worth getting. The top end is missing 2.1.
LG as always is a top choice with the CX/GX OLEDs.
Im kind of interested in the TCL Virdrian 8K and new 4k Vizio top of the line too.
Looking to buy this year or next. 75"-85" size. No rush, want a street price under 6k.
RPS37
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Not an option for USA.
Craig of War
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Don't tell me you have a FW900 you motherfucker lol
LG C9 offers the best performance: excellent picture, supports HDMI 2.1, 13 ms input lag. If you're worried about OLED burn in, then Sony Z9F is a good option. Vincent Teoh of HDTV Test gives a thorough review of the pros/cons of Z9F here. Long story short: it's excellent for SDR, has some issues with blooming/elevated black levels in HDR, only HDMI 2.0, 23ms input lag. Still a great TV at its current price in my opinion. If LED with HDMI 2.1 is a must then I'd wait for more options.
jts
...hate me...
I have a 65 C9 and it's amazing, but can't wait for the PS5/XsX to really make it sing.
This thread might be as good as any other to ask this:
Why aren't there 32" 4K TVs? I have a really small room where I'd like to have a TV and I don't understand why can't it be a TV when such panels exist for monitors. I want the smart tv capabilities to not need dongles and shit to get apps (so no monitor), and I want the ability to eventually use it as a monitor, and for that 32" 1080p kinda sucks.
This thread might be as good as any other to ask this:
Why aren't there 32" 4K TVs? I have a really small room where I'd like to have a TV and I don't understand why can't it be a TV when such panels exist for monitors. I want the smart tv capabilities to not need dongles and shit to get apps (so no monitor), and I want the ability to eventually use it as a monitor, and for that 32" 1080p kinda sucks.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
They exist.
32" Class QLED 4K Q60D | Samsung US
Discover the latest art display TV features and innovations available in the 32" Class QLED 4K Q60D.
www.samsung.com
jts
...hate me...
Thank you. That’s nice and gives me hope that something like it might pop up in Europe someday. From what I’ve searched that model seems to be US exclusive.They exist.
32" Class QLED 4K Q60D | Samsung US
Discover the latest art display TV features and innovations available in the 32" Class QLED 4K Q60D.
Hostile_18
Banned
For me a accurate image is the most important (then input lag). Letting the developers show me how a game is meant to look rather than letting my tv decide is so important.
Always OLED unless you are the type of person that leaves the tv running all day. The difference in picture quality is just mind blowing.
Always OLED unless you are the type of person that leaves the tv running all day. The difference in picture quality is just mind blowing.
DaleinCalgary
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with a static image like a news banner at the bottom.
Kazekage1981
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im not buying a 4kUHD tv until black Friday of this year. Its gotta have the minimum:
HDR10+
Dolby Atmos
HDMI 2.1 with AMD Freesync-Variable Refresh Rate
Wifi6 Built-in
HDR10+
Dolby Atmos
HDMI 2.1 with AMD Freesync-Variable Refresh Rate
Wifi6 Built-in
Jigga117
Member
then you want an OLED based on your requirements minus the + for HDR10. Only a couple of the models I believe have wifi 6 and I think those are the 8k models. Outside of that 5ghz WiFi AC suffices If you can’t just use Ethernet
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
The lack of adoption of HDMI 2.1 on receiver is odd to me. Usually I feel like receivers are ahead of the curve when it comes to features but this time they are late as hell.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Samsung QLED is what you want.
cyber_ninja
Member
Burn in is a big fear in my case, our tv tends to be put on pause quite a lot.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Heavy use/gaming and OLED is dangerous.
SlaughterX
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LG OLED65E9PUA E9 Series - 65" 4K HDR Smart OLED TV w/ Al ThinQ (2019 Model) https://www.newegg.com/product/9SIAJKJ95U7814?m_ver=1
RPS37
Member
Dude. Is it really that thin? I always thought my KS8000 was super thin but that seems insane. I want it. Only 2 grand too.
Jigga117
Member
Dude. Is it really that thin? I always thought my KS8000 was super thin but that seems insane. I want it. Only 2 grand too.
Yep
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That is sexy AF
SlaughterX
Banned
Dude. Is it really that thin? I always thought my KS8000 was super thin but that seems insane. I want it. Only 2 grand too.
Yes sir, this is a great buy... if I hadn't just bought a 65 C8 last year I would be getting this for sure, but I don't really have the need for a 3rd 65 inch OLED. It is very tempting though.
Kazekage1981
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Here are some interesting videos that I found: