If I'm not mistaken, you should pretty much only be dual wielding for barbs. The socket critical hit damage from both weapons is too big of an increase that 2H weapons can't compete with.
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If I'm not mistaken, you should pretty much only be dual wielding for barbs. The socket critical hit damage from both weapons is too big of an increase that 2H weapons can't compete with.
ItAintEasy
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Just opened 2 act 1 bounty cubes and got Mad Monarch 2 times in a row. Thats the great news. Bad news is that I am only lvl 53 on this guy.
In the current game there is almost no reason for anyone to be using a 2H except if you are a Crusader, a DH (because they can equip quivers with 2H Xbox) and a Tempest Rush Monk.
2Hs are slow which mean they suffer in resource regeneration. They don't have two sockets like the dual wield combo for double emeralds for boosting CHD. Their damage also does not usually trump normal combinations like 1H + Source and in terms of toughness they definitely do not trump 1H + Shield.
90%+ of the Legendary 2H you get are going to be insta Forgotten Souls unfortunately. They aren't as bad as how they were in 2.0 at LVL60 but they are still quite underwhelming.
2Hs are slow which mean they suffer in resource regeneration. They don't have two sockets like the dual wield combo for double emeralds for boosting CHD. Their damage also does not usually trump normal combinations like 1H + Source and in terms of toughness they definitely do not trump 1H + Shield.
90%+ of the Legendary 2H you get are going to be insta Forgotten Souls unfortunately. They aren't as bad as how they were in 2.0 at LVL60 but they are still quite underwhelming.
such power, many levels, wow
ItAintEasy
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Those things would have been dope on my barb I lost yesterday. RIP Busey.
Given the opportunity, there's a good chance I'd be DWing.
I'm finally able to make my way through rifts on Torment 1 and it's great. It's slower for sure, but actually having to pay attention and play the game does wonders for enjoyment. The gold and legendary items help, too of course. What's the drop rate for Imperial gems supposed to be? I really want to start enchanting some of my legendary drops, but the gem cost is just too high right now.
Managed to snag TWO Deadly Rebirth daggers so now I'm to four total that have dropped over the life of this character. The special passive is useless to me but the DPS was better than my rare. Topped off the runs with a Magefist from Kadala with a max Fire Damage roll.
Managed to snag TWO Deadly Rebirth daggers so now I'm to four total that have dropped over the life of this character. The special passive is useless to me but the DPS was better than my rare. Topped off the runs with a Magefist from Kadala with a max Fire Damage roll.
There are much better legendary boots. Heck, I wouldn't wear Blackthorn's over even a decent pair of rare boots.
RIP in peace Buseybarian (2014-2014)
That 4 set bonus is kinda ridiculous though.
UnluckyKate
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She dropped me 2 legendaries (shield and shoulder pads) one after the other. I got the shield " oh nice ! now on to shoulder " and bam, legendary shoulder.
Thanks Kadara <3
(also countless of tri factor gloves and rings)
My crusader went from 350k to 730k dps tonight with a a crit roll on my legendary shield (not showing here I don't know why) and my new legendary weapon :
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sven-2689/hero/38803163
Too bad the DPS is 200 to 300 to low compared to top tiers two hands
Angelus Errare
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Don't feel bad, your monk does double his actual DPS.
UnluckyKate
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I can finally replace my yellow ring.
I rerolled the 18% lightning and got 15% life which checking the range was the max. Not sure if I should re-roll to crit or what. My toughness is at 7.4M. Without this ring it's 6.3M.
Roll crit chance dude.
Just found a sever:
Not sure what I should do with it. If I use it, I've gotta put in a socket.
What exactly does the slain enemies rest in pieces thing do now?
Also, does anyone know what the chance to smite on the Sky Splitter (seen on my profile here) does?
Not sure what I should do with it. If I use it, I've gotta put in a socket.
What exactly does the slain enemies rest in pieces thing do now?
Also, does anyone know what the chance to smite on the Sky Splitter (seen on my profile here) does?
I have noticed this in addition to some pretty bad lag spikes.
Nice. Still farming A1 bounties for my good base ring
Same super huge killing blow crits.
Is that useful in any way shape or form? I mean I guess having a guaranteed crit is cool for my build.
And yeah, what does smite do on this:
sever is useless unless you have add like me and the big numbers make you feel happy. it replaces killing blows with gigantic damage numbers of a billion+. skysplitters smite is a little damage proc, crits pretty decently. i liked it on my barb.
Sky Splitter is just damage? Not stun or anything? I tried seeing if I could figure out what it really did, but not much stuck out to me. It was better than my old weapon anyway.
Just trying to figure out if I should try for a socket on that Sever or on another claw I've got. .. or wait for something better.
questionmark
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Maximus for barbs seems pretty strong.
Only problem is you have to wear Blackthorn equipment to get it.
yeah it seemed like only damage. i used to just be a frenzybarb and never saw any stuns, at 60. haven't gotten one at 70 yet.
Finally got some Gloves of Worship. Seems like it should be worth the trade off.
Found an odd bug, shrine of empowerment seem to last for an hour instead of ten minutes.
Edit: Fleeting shrine also lasting an hour, not that i'm complaining.
Yeah, it was originally an hour for everything, then they changed it to be 10 minutes for everything but missed these two. I'm not sure why. Leaving some hype for the bounty-specific legendaries I guess?
jim2point0
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Just once i'd like RNG to not completely fuck me. 12 flawless imperials \ forgotten souls and not a single one of them rolled crit chance. let alone high crit chance. and im broke again. fucking in-game gold takes FOREVER to get.....
Yeah but at the cost of likely getting crushed by physical damage?
I had 3 of the 4 pieces and an amulet that disregarded arcane and i still wanted nothing to do with the set.
Set pieces in general are just bad. Blizz makes you think they are good, but legendary items are the go to.
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Deleted member 325805
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I also opted for the shrine gloves while taking a small DPS loss and it was well worth it. Having an hour Empowered and Fleeting shrine on Crusader is amazing, long cooldowns and mobility are no longer an issue.
toastyToast
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Not sure why my monks damage is so low. Is it the weapons? What can I do?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/toastyToast-6810/hero/5656861
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/toastyToast-6810/hero/5656861
Not a monk main, but your dex seems really low. I just hit 70 on my monk last night, but I have like 1500 more dex than you. Mostly I think you just need to get some legendaries over those rares add like 100+ dex for every slot then get some new weapons too, you can add even like 100dps easy to each weapon even keeping with rares, but upgrading to legendaries would be huge.
I bet Heaven's Fury will be lowered in damage when they detail Crusader changes.
Here's my wishlist:
Here's my wishlist:
- Wrath Generators either A) generate more wrath or B) deal more damage. This is if our cooldowns are not reduced. Since we use the generators/spenders as our main source of damage in between cooldowns, they should hit like a fucking truck.
- Cooldowns reduced on our damaging abilities. Some of our abilities are just TOO long of a cooldown to justify their damage potential. 1150%? 1200%? Barbs can call down 3 charges of Earthquake for 1600% damage. Their hardest hitting rune makes it 4400% over 5 seconds, which is still huge.
- Increase wrath generation in general. Make it like Spirit, or Arcane Power (lol). It needs to regenerate fast so we can use more spenders before running out.
- Buff the other spenders not named Heaven's Fury - Fires of Heaven
- Bake Heavenly Strength into the class, and make Heavenly Strength give bonuses based on the playstyle you choose, be it 1H + S, 2H, or 2H + S.
- Spread out more elemental damage types to the other skills to promote new builds, and change existing skills to damage types that make sense (Sweep Attack - Holy Shock anyone?)
Some of the Set pieces are pretty insane. Getting 500 bonus stat is no joke and that's just a standard "2 set". With Ring of Grand Royeur you just need to equip like 3 and usually get the full bonus. The Tal Rasha's set is quite nice.
There's a Barbarian set that gives him all runes on Furious Charge. Becomes pretty outrageous.
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To be fair we only have a few legit good spells, nerfing them would be stupid. I think they'll buff the damage on generators and spenders, especially spenders as well as reducing the Wrath cost on several of them. I expect Wrath regen to get a buff as well. I'm also hoping our mobility gets revisited. Overall I'm enjoying my Crusader and I can farm t2 efficiently but there's a part of me that knows I'd be crushing t4 at least by now if I stuck with my previous level 60 main (Wizard).
Wrath generators need to build like twice as much Wrath at the minimum. They build like 5 Wrath when the Wrath spenders are like just as any other class really... 20-30 per cost. Like if you use Fist of Heaven it takes you like 5 hits with your crappy Wrath generator just to build enough for another Fist of Heaven. In comparison most of Monks generators build like 10+ Spirit per hit and their spells cost about the same as Crusaders (WoL is kinda expensive which needs a buff anyway).
Of course Crusader need better element variety (pretty much like most classes are in need of except DH and Wizards).
And yea CD on some abilities is pretty insane. Bombardment and Fallen Sword come to mind. At least with Bombardment you can get a passive to make it shorter... you are pretty boned with FS.
Spenders need an all around damage buff except for the Heaven Fury rune of course. Fist of Heaven is pretty garbage, Sweep is meh. Hammers are alright I guess.. haven't really tried them but they are bit too inconsistent for my tastes.
Not sure what they can do with Heavenly Strength really. I would much rather they give the option to go dual wield but have 30% damage mitigation.
Of course Crusader need better element variety (pretty much like most classes are in need of except DH and Wizards).
And yea CD on some abilities is pretty insane. Bombardment and Fallen Sword come to mind. At least with Bombardment you can get a passive to make it shorter... you are pretty boned with FS.
Spenders need an all around damage buff except for the Heaven Fury rune of course. Fist of Heaven is pretty garbage, Sweep is meh. Hammers are alright I guess.. haven't really tried them but they are bit too inconsistent for my tastes.
Not sure what they can do with Heavenly Strength really. I would much rather they give the option to go dual wield but have 30% damage mitigation.
I'm certain dual wield wouldn't fit the class's "iconic look". A giant 2H that a Crusader has forsaken their shield for? Give that man a damage buff and a incoming damage % decrease.
MY FAITH IS MY SHIELD they could call it.
I don't think his dex is that big of a problem. He's on the right path, just needs to get some legendary upgrades. Hell he has more dex than my monk but I'm at 600k unbuffed damage.
My wish is they remove the movement penalty on Heavenly Strength. It's just wishful thinking, just because I love zipping around on my monk so much and my sader feels sooooo much slower.
Their whole concept for the class is flawed. "Oh man Crusader is awesome, this slow moving tank of a character, moving up and dealing damage, like an actual TANK!"
Yeah they got the slow moving part alright.
Dealing damage? Yeah it's a work in progress bruh
Ain't nobody got time to move slow in Diablo 3. It's built-in bullshit that slows you down for no reason.
Yeah they got the slow moving part alright.
Dealing damage? Yeah it's a work in progress bruh
Ain't nobody got time to move slow in Diablo 3. It's built-in bullshit that slows you down for no reason.
Heavenly Strength really shouldn't lower movement speed if only due to Diablo in general just being about mowing through stuff. It's just kind of unfun.
As far as our generators go, I think the Damage% for most of them are fine. Maybe tweak them slightly but we really do have some of the better raw Damage% values. They do need to generate more Wrath and/or we generate Wrath on Block (sorry Ashodin).
And then every Spender needs to be reevaluated.
As far as our generators go, I think the Damage% for most of them are fine. Maybe tweak them slightly but we really do have some of the better raw Damage% values. They do need to generate more Wrath and/or we generate Wrath on Block (sorry Ashodin).
And then every Spender needs to be reevaluated.
Arrogant Bastard
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Their whole concept for the class is flawed. "Oh man Crusader is awesome, this slow moving tank of a character, moving up and dealing damage, like an actual TANK!"
Yeah they got the slow moving part alright.
Dealing damage? Yeah it's a work in progress bruh
Ain't nobody got time to move slow in Diablo 3. It's built-in bullshit that slows you down for no reason.
Ruh roh, you're coming around. Isn't a problem for you though, you aren't using a shield.
BS aside, no damn clue how they thought this was a good idea. Hey guys, lets make a multiplayer game and cause one of the classes to move 15% slower than everyone else. Good design.
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