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Diablo III: Reaper of Souls |OT| Once again! The Sound of HAMMERS is GLORIOUS!
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I decided to craft some extra gear and play a lightning/holy hybrid build for a bit, just to do something different with the Crusader... and oh god.
Soloing with my Holy build I was stomping Torment 2, doing on a good pace Torment 3 and having problems at Torment 4 due my toughness (part of the reason to craft the extra gear). With this one I'm doing Torment 5 and it feels easier than T4 with the other build, even with almost 200k less paper DPS and much less elemental damage (from +94% holy to 18% holy+17% lightning). Crazy.
Gonna craft another Asheara piece to add some extra followers to this madness. Shame I can't go with permaAC, the way Fissure procs AC-Rally is amazing. I'm spamming Condemns (with BoP) each 1-2 seconds vs elites
Granted, it's unscientific as hell but our rift clears in a party just generally go by faster when I use Heaven's Tempest instead of Fissure. I dunno, maybe I'm just doing Fissure wrong.
http://www.diablohub.com/database/sorting/holy-damage/
Here's a listing of legendaries, not sure about rares.
RukusProvider
Banned
Wtf. Sold a chest piece with 3 gems and the gems disappeared instead of going back into inventory??.
Anyone else have this?
Anyone else have this?
They need more Legendaries that have +% element on armor pieces. It's why Fire is reigning supreme... it comes on two armor pieces when some don't even come on one. It's really not balanced at all... no other element Legendary has "reduce resource cost of Fire skills".
They should probably buff some of the more useless Legendaries with those affixes.
They should probably buff some of the more useless Legendaries with those affixes.
razgriz417
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I thought you only got you gems back when you salvage not sell?
You can buy that item back with the gems in place.
Any crusaders have luck with blessed shield builds? I've got a helm of rule pattern just now and wondering how it well it works.
The 1h mace which removes resource cost also sounds ridiculous.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/gyrfalcons-foote
The 1h mace which removes resource cost also sounds ridiculous.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/gyrfalcons-foote
jim2point0
Banned
RNG in this game is getting a wee bit ridiculous.
9 Malthael kills on Torment 2 and only 1 mat drop...
9 Malthael kills on Torment 2 and only 1 mat drop...
The problem with this is what's the point of Blessed Shield in the build then? I mean, it's not generating you Wrath so it doesn't replace a Primary. It doesn't cost Wrath so you still want a way to dump Wrath (unless you just ignore that mechanic entirely). On top of that, I just don't think Blessed Shield does enough right now. Just kind of awkward really.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
T-thanks, Myriam.
Thanks Myriam.
for once
That has always been the case, you only get the gems if you salvage the item.
Except it has such a long animation that you can't really spam it in the middle of using other stuff. And I'm not sure I'd really drop anything for it :x
What I'm saying is it ultimately just turns your build into one with nothing to use Wrath for, really, and everything into Cooldown skills. You just spam Blessed Shield. The problem then is that Blessed Shield still doesn't feel all that powerful of a skill so it's not really worth giving up the better Wrath spenders to do this in the first place.
For what it counts, I really like Blessed Shield as skill. Its main problem is the lack of damage against single targets, but for anything else is pretty nice. And with a zero cost, even more. F*ck wrath
What I don't like is the crippled damage for cooldown skills with 1h weapon. Thats my only issue with Gyrfalcon's Foote.
Haven't tested Heaven's Tempest yet, had good memories with Fissure from the beta and I tagged with it. Does Tempest damage stack if placed on same spot?
What I don't like is the crippled damage for cooldown skills with 1h weapon. Thats my only issue with Gyrfalcon's Foote.
Haven't tested Heaven's Tempest yet, had good memories with Fissure from the beta and I tagged with it. Does Tempest damage stack if placed on same spot?
It does. They also move a little bit so it'll chase enemies that walk slightly out of the AoE. Plus, it deals 150%/second so it's nice if you only get 1 or 2 off for a tick or two.
Pretty much. Just wanted to expand on it since I've long wondered what's the point of that item. Turning a spender into a free skill doesn't really do anything unless it's the hands down best spender (e.g., if it made Fires of Heaven free).
Shouta
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Shouta-1258/hero/43526959
Crusader up to 600k DPS in game though the site doesn't show it, lol.
Got the Wyrdward today which goes nicely with the Thunderfury. With Nephalem Glory active, it's basically lightning everywhere. 10 sec Heaven's Fury is amazing too and the Bombardment helps me rip through elites. So good.
T1 solo is a cake walk and everything melts. Gonna try to jump into T2 solo for fun when I'm not doing T1 farming with Darsh or others.
Crusader up to 600k DPS in game though the site doesn't show it, lol.
Got the Wyrdward today which goes nicely with the Thunderfury. With Nephalem Glory active, it's basically lightning everywhere. 10 sec Heaven's Fury is amazing too and the Bombardment helps me rip through elites. So good.
T1 solo is a cake walk and everything melts. Gonna try to jump into T2 solo for fun when I'm not doing T1 farming with Darsh or others.
True. Blessed Shield currently just doesn't hit enough targets to be a true AoE skill, lacks in single target damage, and then it just has that awkward animation anyway. Granted, I've only tried it out maybe for ~10 rifts with my Fire set but that's also my best +Damage% set (since Cindercoat / Magefist / Maximus) and it definitely felt lackluster compared to other builds.
If it can be a standalone skill, you can basically just ignore Wrath entirely and go full cooldown stuff. It's just not at that point yet.
Shouta
Member
I've used Shattering Throw before and it's not too bad but the additional shields need more damage, I think. Don't have an issue with the number. But since Fist got buffed, I've been using that with Divine Well.
Actually, it's up to 333% for additional shields? That might be nice to try out, lol.
Is it? Should still be 50% Weapon Damage I thought.
well I'm dumb
I'll try this later, assuming I ever get a Holy build pieced back together.
Well I would say that the utility of fire element generally speaking is close to nothing, so while you may get a high numbers nuke build with cinder coat and magefist, most classes' best builds aren't pure fire.
I think TGV, TF, Fulminator, Odyn Son and Schaefer's make lightning competitive. And Azure wraith is sick for cold builds, too.
But I agree with your general opinion, I'd like to see more neat elemental enhancing effects aside from just fire.
Maybe. Depends on how it functions in single-target situations. Still, that's not bad at all for free spammable skill with the GF.
racketpunch
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SuperLurker
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Blessed Shield - Shattering Throw with the flail and a +6 bounce shield absolutely wrecks groups of mobs. Its pretty terrible on single mobs but as long as there are least 3 or so monsters you can kill stuff pretty fast. I was trying out a build in T3 rifts last night, and didn't use any skills that cost wrath. It seems pretty effective, but it was rather boring. You don't really even need to aim, just hold down the button in general direction of the enemies and watch them die.
MattPeters
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Is there any spots to farm the white Ascended Shield? I want to make the Hollowed shield for my Shotgun Crusader, but I cant seem to find fuckin any. An hour of hitting the Battlefields netted me basically everything but the shield.
Yeah, thinking about it some more with the new Shattered Throw numbers (and with it not killing you) + Jekangbord changes things a bit. I'll have to get to testing this out ... whenever I get all of these.
Edit: In other news, I'm now up to 10 Deathseer's Cowls from Kadala since the hotfix. Thanks. I guess.
I know IceMarker has been enjoying his pinball crusader as he calls it.
Look for the Scavenged Scabbard bounty in act 1 southern highlands. Vendel the Armorsmith can sell them after you finish it.
Dark_castle
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Just gotten a SoJ. Should I reroll the +80-152 damage to Crit.chance or wait for my Wand of Woh to drop and reroll Cold % to Fire %?
Also, compared to my rare ring, it resulted in a huge loss in dps, probably less when it's rerolled to Crit chance, but still. Is the 28% against elite worth it? Elite doesn't include the white minions, champion packs, uniques and bosses right?
glaringradio
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Its everything that isn't a plain white mob or a boss.
Just gotten a SoJ. Should I reroll the +80-152 damage to Crit.chance or wait for my Wand of Woh to drop and reroll Cold % to Fire %?
Also, compared to my rare ring, it resulted in a huge loss in dps, probably less when it's rerolled to Crit chance, but still. Is the 28% against elite worth it? Elite doesn't include the white minions, champion packs, uniques and bosses right?
MonorailCat
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Turn down the difficulty if you still have a lot of lvl60 gear.
With my DH I started Act V on Torment 2 and by the time I reached Malthael I was at Expert ... you don't gear up as fast as the monsters scale to lvl70.
SixMachine
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PSA: Remember not to neglect your secondary stats on gear. Bracers and chest could give you melee and range damage reduction and that works wonders since you eventually hit diminishing returns on armor and res.
I've been stress testing my wiz in t6, since they actually seem to be pretty weak compared to other classes in the top end (there's no way they are going to match the dps of Barb, Wd, or Dh). But I've been doing okay, because I completed Ashearas, Aughilds, and have the 3 set of blackthorne's. I've also been testing arcane mines because it has a 60% aspd and move debuff which actually is ridiculous (though you need to play smart and use cc like blackhole to make full potential of it). Jagged Ice armor seems to mitigate melee attacks much better than prismatic armor does.
I lost over 100k sheet dps, but I definitely do more damage now than I did before, especially against elites. If I use cascade AT I do 7m a crit and it hits multiple times a second. Arcane mines does 23-27m after it gets armed (takes 2 seconds. They should make a leg that instantly arms them or allows more than the 6 mine cap. I would use it). It's because I have 54% elite damage, 45% arcane, 30% AT. Defensive wise I get hurt by range more than melee. I have only 7% range reduction, and around 24% melee with ice armor, and reduce elite damage by 25%. I can get bracers with a better secondary, so I'm looking forward to crafting that. If I can find a blackthorne spurs I can replace my belt to keep the bonus and use my string of ears which adds 28% melee reduction on top of that.I really think if people really want to move on up to torment 6, they would need to go to many sources of damage and mitigation as possible (or play something crazy like SoH + TF WW which procs like mad).
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/sixmachine-1693/hero/41333589
edit: Stuff that effect elite damage basically is anything with a gold health bar, even bosses like, champ packs, purples, Diablo and Rift Guardians. Basically everything that is not a white mob pretty much gets the bonuses.
I've been stress testing my wiz in t6, since they actually seem to be pretty weak compared to other classes in the top end (there's no way they are going to match the dps of Barb, Wd, or Dh). But I've been doing okay, because I completed Ashearas, Aughilds, and have the 3 set of blackthorne's. I've also been testing arcane mines because it has a 60% aspd and move debuff which actually is ridiculous (though you need to play smart and use cc like blackhole to make full potential of it). Jagged Ice armor seems to mitigate melee attacks much better than prismatic armor does.
I lost over 100k sheet dps, but I definitely do more damage now than I did before, especially against elites. If I use cascade AT I do 7m a crit and it hits multiple times a second. Arcane mines does 23-27m after it gets armed (takes 2 seconds. They should make a leg that instantly arms them or allows more than the 6 mine cap. I would use it). It's because I have 54% elite damage, 45% arcane, 30% AT. Defensive wise I get hurt by range more than melee. I have only 7% range reduction, and around 24% melee with ice armor, and reduce elite damage by 25%. I can get bracers with a better secondary, so I'm looking forward to crafting that. If I can find a blackthorne spurs I can replace my belt to keep the bonus and use my string of ears which adds 28% melee reduction on top of that.I really think if people really want to move on up to torment 6, they would need to go to many sources of damage and mitigation as possible (or play something crazy like SoH + TF WW which procs like mad).
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/sixmachine-1693/hero/41333589
edit: Stuff that effect elite damage basically is anything with a gold health bar, even bosses like, champ packs, purples, Diablo and Rift Guardians. Basically everything that is not a white mob pretty much gets the bonuses.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Oh, nice. Luckily I am running a cold build (sorta) at the moment, the cold % helps to salvage the loss of trifecta a little. Now I've got Cindercoat, Magefist and SoJ. Just need Moonlight Ward and Wand of Woh and I'm ready to roll.
A little? "-12%" damage is not a huge loss when it is MORE than compensated by the "cold +damage" already. Add the elite damage bonus, and it is clear that that SoJ is a clear upgrade on anything except that illusiory dps number on your sheet.
N
Noray
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Actually it works against bosses too. Just anything that isn't a white mob.
SixMachine: Virtual high five for using mines as well! They are my favorite skill, and although they take seconds to aim and have a cap, they can work together with many skills to achieve a sort of synergy.
I use the orb that gives me Wormhole rune on teleport. So I am able to aoe stun+damage mobs 3 times in a row every time I take a hit higher than 15%. So what I do is that I lay the mines, teleport in, hit 4-5 times with electrocute to get the +75% boost for the next round of mines, and by this time, the mines have already been detonated.
The good thing about this is that if the mobs manage to deal 15% of my hp as damage to me, my teleport resets (passive), and the chain begins anew. Teleport has a 100% Life on Hit effectiveness PER TARGET, so if I teleport into a group of 10 mobs with 10k LOH, I instantly gain 100k hp. I can repeat it 2 more times, so if I am not dead, I *will* be on full health once I teleported to mobs. And bosses do not hit hard enough in T2 for me to not be able to outheal their damage with mine detonates+electrocute spam.
I use the orb that gives me Wormhole rune on teleport. So I am able to aoe stun+damage mobs 3 times in a row every time I take a hit higher than 15%. So what I do is that I lay the mines, teleport in, hit 4-5 times with electrocute to get the +75% boost for the next round of mines, and by this time, the mines have already been detonated.
The good thing about this is that if the mobs manage to deal 15% of my hp as damage to me, my teleport resets (passive), and the chain begins anew. Teleport has a 100% Life on Hit effectiveness PER TARGET, so if I teleport into a group of 10 mobs with 10k LOH, I instantly gain 100k hp. I can repeat it 2 more times, so if I am not dead, I *will* be on full health once I teleported to mobs. And bosses do not hit hard enough in T2 for me to not be able to outheal their damage with mine detonates+electrocute spam.
SixMachine
Member
That source sounds really interesting. The only thing that I found that effected teleport was the Oculus source which lowers teleport cooldown by 4 seconds, but doesn't give me as much damage benefits as my triumvirate. Though it's very good for speedrunning t1 rifts or doing normal bounties. I collected most of the interesting ones except Myken's Ball of Hate and the source you are talking about (barring the set ones. I have no luck with those at all).
Dreams-Visions
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Just gotten a SoJ. Should I reroll the +80-152 damage to Crit.chance or wait for my Wand of Woh to drop and reroll Cold % to Fire %?
Also, compared to my rare ring, it resulted in a huge loss in dps, probably less when it's rerolled to Crit chance, but still. Is the 28% against elite worth it? Elite doesn't include the white minions, champion packs, uniques and bosses right?
I'd re-roll the cold to CD quick-fast.
What a huge mistake that would be for anything other than your sheet dps number.
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